The other side of things though is how much the biz has changed since the early 2000s Back then people who were 'in porn' were actually 'in porn'

They either performed on camera on set, or worked on the filming side on set or did something else that was literally in the same room and within spitting distance of people actually fucking and sucking. Those were the people, along with the fans at porn conventions.

These days with cam girls, solo performers with clipstores, and all the people who consider themselves 'in porn' but in truth are only ever as close to porn as an image on a computer screen, then yes. It's a different client base these days. I can fully understand a girl who only deals with facts and figures on a screen at a traffic brokers office going to a convention and being shocked if groped - Understandably so, but these sorts of people didn't use to attend.

QFT. They need their own safe spaces. Tired of the whining.

This is a wise take on it ...

He's 65 this year

it was not rape...so that leaves the other thing...it was in the time of VHS...shot maybe in the early 90-s...

Theres a lot of truth in this, I dont know the back story but I do know I have never had a problem with Ron nor have ANY of the many girls I have brought to industry functions, he has always asked before touching them....But all of that aside Duke is on point here, pretty much nobody in the biz these days has any sense of history of the biz, its like every girl and every so called director thinks the biz started when they came in....Truth is Ron was doing positive things for this industry when the best part of Theo Sapoutzis was running down his mommys leg. Did anyone sit down with Ron and say this is what is acceptable and this is what isnt or did AVN just appoint themselves judge jury and executioner?

I am not gonna convict Ron on heresay

The really interesting thing is that this biz wasnt always the cesspool of scumbags that it is now, its like we somehow lived up to mainstreams expectations of us.

Guys like Ron Sullivan, Bruce Seven, Lasse Braun ( talk about a scumbag kid...he is WAY worse to females than Ron ever was) Gregory Dark, Cecil Howard, Gerry Damiano ... wonder what they would think...

Ron Jeremy told Rolling Stone magazine that "I get paid to show up to these shows, events, and photo shoots and touch the people" and "As for the charges of Groping, I say yes, I AM A GROPER."

Definition of groper: feel or fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure, especially against their will.

You'd be crazy to pay Ron Jeremy to appear at a show after that it's a huge liability.

43 minutes?? Her perspective is larger than her breasts ...

so because of their status they can do whatever they want?

Fiddy porn legends banned.

This is a wise take on the current state of "the Adult Industry". In MY opinion I will add that I think there IS no "Adult Industry" anymore. Not like there used to be. Now we have mostly web-based independent companies all competing with each for traffic and ad dollars. Paysites are individual islands of ecommerce, operating mostly on their own. Cam girls live in their own little cam bubbles. Dating sites and dick pills - is that even "porn"?

The Adult landscape, like all entertainment in the 21st century, is scattered far and wide and mostly niche-oriented.

Wow. So you are down with the rapists. Good to know.

Lots of industries discard legends. Especially when they are rapists and commit sexual assault.

Nothing but stupidity throughout your entire post.

You don't get it.

Everyone keeps mentioning the "groping" but nothing about the "raping"

She likes to hear herself talk. :Oh crap

I mentioned the rape allegation. Do I get a gold star or something? On a very serious level, thinking it is okay to touch a porn star's boobies at AVN should be punishable by telling him to knock it off. If the behavior persisted, I can see showing him the door. Does anyone know if there was a warning?

If there was an actual rape, no one should have any sympathy for the guy. Being rejected from AVN is quite mild on the list of bad things that should happen to an actual rapist. Imagine being an adult industry worker and, being raped. The odds of discrimination are quite high. My heart goes out to any woman in that circumstance. I've been there myself and, it is a brutal thing to carry around.

However, that is a big accusation to be throwing around with no proof to back it up. I've never met the man. I've been on quite a few sets and, have never heard anything like that discussed. The few times I've heard him discussed, by ladies who have worked with him, it was fondly. This to say, no one should jump to conclusions with nothing more than a rumor.

Multiple accusations of rape. Multiple.

I have always had the utmost respect for you Mike. But, you are supposed to be in the know on stuff like this. You say you don't know the back story, but here is an article that features comments from Ginger Lynn saying she was raped by RJ. The article says Lynn claims similar incidents have been occurring for years in the business.

Lynn says..."And he does it to new girls."

"“Ron is a rapist and he’s hiding behind the adult film industry and he’s getting away with it.” Lynn also said.

With that being said, lets gets back to the you don't know the story about Ron. This article not only has a mike south banner next to it, but scroll down the page, and there is a picture of a guy there you might recognize. I'm not saying because of this you know all. But to be in the industry, and claim to have the scoop on so much but not know the backstory, you have got to be kidding me right?

Ginger Lynn–I was raped by Ron Jeremy – #1 Adult Industry News Source

Legends do some bad shit people. OJ, Cosby. You can't tell me woman were not afraid to come forward. This is the porn industry, and very little concern will be shown to "sluts and whores" in the industry, let alone in the mainstream where people have shown even less.

I am beginning to question your journalistic integrity in this industry. What was it, a week ago you downplayed the Stormy Daniels / Trump story saying it wasn't true, when a day or so later the In Touch interview came out where she admitted it was true. It's not like the story was even new because it made somewhat of a blip on the news just over 10 years ago.

But this RJ stuff... This is how people get away with this shit for so long.

But let's not forget the under lying truth of this Industry: it is a magnet for the psychologically and chemically dependent. Male and female performers are doing porn for vastly different reasons.

What the fuck are you talking about? You come on here acting all smug like you are some intelligent woman of the industry, when you don't know shit about the conversation being had here.

Multiple accusations. Multiple women. And I am just talking about the rape allegations.

If someone has told you they had fond memories of RJ, clearly they weren't one of the ladies who claim they were raped.

Get the fuck out of here with your fucking "rumor" bullshit. The accusations have been public. I have seen some of the fucked up shit this guy has pulled, but I am not going to go into detail about it in respect to the woman who is now happily married and probably does not want to drag her husband or his child into it.

You mentioned you never heard about any of this. Clearly.

Did you have a point?

Yes: that there are predators in this industry who prey on vulnerable girls who are often too afraid, drug dependent or psychologically damaged to protest. It's disgusting and it's NOT ok in any way. But the attitude persists that if a girl is doing porn then she is "asking for it". Male talent often looks like they are assaulting the female performer in videos more than just fucking her.

I am agreeing with your views here. Just because it is sex work does NOT mean sexual assault of any kind is ok. Respect for a woman's body should be the norm. Professionalism should always be the norm 100% of the time. Groping, touching, acting like a woman is a "thing" is never ok.

First of all, I am not being smug. You've seriously misread that. I even shared that I was raped and, how emotionally brutal it was not to be taken seriously because of my occupation. I don't wish that on anyone. It is an incredibly difficult thing to carry around. 17 years later and, I still have nightmares. My point is that there is a huge difference between grabbing a woman's boobies for an AVN photo and, literally raping a woman. I was quite clear in my previous post that if he was actually raping women, being shunned from AVN is an incredibly mild punishment. I also said that before jumping to conclusions, there should be proof. Perhaps, you should reread my posts before using such harsh language. Emotions are running high here so, I understand if you misunderstood.

yeah makes sense. it's the 'you fuck me' and I'll get you a few scenes that I wonder about :thumbsup

great insight here B.

wtf was it

I've seen similar behavior by him too. And yes, Ron is a fun guy but perhaps not if it's you he's grabbing.

She's got big knockers and a great noggin 👍😍

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