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onwebcam 02-06-2018 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22195351)
Republicans didn't have a problem with FISA when they voted to reauthorize it late last year!
lol as if Washington would give up powers despite being caught abusing them..

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Jel 02-06-2018 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 22195195)
Ron Paul gets it right


The release of the House Intelligence Committee?s memo on the FBI?s abuse of the FISA process set off a partisan firestorm. The Democrats warned us beforehand that declassifying the memo would be the end the world as we know it. It was reckless to allow Americans to see this classified material, they said. Agents in the field could be harmed, sources and methods would be compromised, they claimed.

Republicans who had seen the memo claimed that it was far worse than Watergate. They said that mass firings would begin immediately after it became public. They said that the criminality of US government agencies exposed by the memo would shock Americans.

Then it was released and the world did not end. FBI agents have thus far not been fired. Seeing ?classified? material did not terrify us, but rather it demonstrated clearly that information is kept from us by claiming it is ?classified.?

In the end, both sides got it wrong. Here?s what the memo really shows us:

First, the memo demonstrates that there is a ?deep state? that does not want things like elections to threaten its existence. Candidate Trump?s repeated promises to get along with Russia and to re-assess NATO so many years after the end of the Cold War were threatening to a Washington that depends on creating enemies to sustain the fear needed to justify a trillion dollar yearly military budget.

Imagine if candidate Trump had kept his campaign promises when he became President. Without the ?Russia threat? and without the ?China threat? and without the need to dump billions into NATO, we might actually have reaped a ?peace dividend? more than a quarter century after the end of the Cold War. That would have starved the war-promoting military-industrial complex and its network of pro-war ?think tanks? that populate the Washington Beltway area.

Second, the memo shows us that neither Republicans nor Democrats really care that much about surveillance abuse when average Americans are the victims. It is clear that the FISA abuse detailed in the memo was well known to Republicans like House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes before the memo was actually released. It was likely also well known by Democrats in the House. But both parties suppressed this evidence of FBI abuse of the FISA process until after the FISA Amendments Act could be re-authorized. They didn?t want Americans to know how corrupt the surveillance system really is and how the US has become far too much like East Germany. That might cause more Americans to call up their Representatives and demand that the FISA mass surveillance amendment be allowed to sunset.

Ironically, Chairman Nunes was the biggest cheerleader for the extension of the FISA Amendments even as he knew how terribly the FISA process had been abused!

Finally, hawks on both sides of the aisle in Congress used ?Russia-gate? as an excuse to build animosity toward Russia among average Americans. They knew from the classified information that there was no basis for their claims that the Trump Administration was put into office with Moscow?s assistance, but they played along because it served their real goal of keeping the US on war footing and keeping the gravy train rolling.

But don?t worry: the neocons in both parties will soon find another excuse to keep us terrified and ready to flush away a trillion dollars a year on military spending and continue our arguments and new ?Cold War? with Russia.

In the meantime, be skeptical of both parties. With few exceptions they are not protecting liberty but promoting its opposite.
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2MuchMark 02-06-2018 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22194321)
Mark, that is wild conspiracy based on NO EVIDENCE.
Why did the Trump campaign hire Carter Page to be his foreign policy adviser?

onwebcam 02-06-2018 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22195469)
Why did the Trump campaign hire Carter Page to be his foreign policy adviser?
They didn't, Carter Page was a volunteer..............

Page admits himself he never met any of the "others" including Trump. He wasn't producing what the Clinton cabal wanted so they made him a "spy" literally so they could expand their reach.

See my post above... He was a plant... A tool, a stooge..

VRPdommy 02-06-2018 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22195475)
He didn't, Carter Page was a volunteer..............

Page admits himself he never met any of the "others" including Trump. He wasn't producing what the Clinton cabal wanted so they made him a "spy" literally.

See my post above... He was a plant...
I volunteered for my last job. Got payed handsomely too.
They must have felt I was qualified since they let me do it. They even did a background check on me. It was mandatory even though I don't like them.
If I would have had as much as a domestic abuse charge on my record, I would not have been allowed to 'volunteer'.

I think you are grabbing at straws and just got a short one !

onwebcam 02-06-2018 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22195493)
I volunteered for my last job. Got payed handsomely too.
They must have felt I was qualified since they let me do it. They even did a background check on me. It was mandatory even though I don't like them.
If I would have had as much as a domestic abuse charge on my record, I would not have been allowed to 'volunteer'.

I think you are grabbing at straws and just got a short one !
lol at a campaign doing background checks on volunteers... :1orglaugh Especially since at the time Trump was funding it himself.. Besides what would they find? He wasn't charged with anything in the prior case BECAUSE HE WAS AN INFORMANT

Cater Page saying he will be vindicated.. Because he knows who he was really working for... The people who set him up...

Carter Page: FBI 'shredded' Constitution by eavesdropping on me - ABC News

VRPdommy 02-06-2018 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22195499)
lol at a campaign doing background checks on volunteers... :1orglaugh Especially since at the time Trump was funding it himself.. Besides what would they find? He wasn't charged with anything in the prior case BECAUSE HE WAS AN INFORMANT

Cater Page saying he will be vindicated.. Because he knows who he was really working for... The people who set him up...

Carter Page: FBI 'shredded' Constitution by eavesdropping on me - ABC News
But you have the choice of who serves you !
And most of these volunteers were at the suggestion (if not the outright pick) of other advisers.

onwebcam 02-06-2018 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22195511)
But you have the choice of who serves you !
And most of these volunteers were at the suggestion (if not the outright pick) of other advisers.
Sorry, campaigns don't even remotely care who volunteers for them. If you can do anything period to help you're on.... You make good coffee and you'll work for free? Great! We will give you this cool sounding title as payment mmmkay? Now where's that coffee!

VRPdommy 02-06-2018 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22195523)
Sorry, campaigns don't even remotely care who volunteers for them. If you can do anything period to help you're on.... You make good coffee and you'll work for free? Great! We will give you this cool sounding title as payment mmmkay? Now where's that coffee!
Who do you think you are fooling with that BS !
Everyone involved/getting caught is belittled to a coffee boy.
You can put it up for sale, but I doubt many will buy it.

Go back to fox views and get your next line cause this one doen't work.
It's a broken record.

onwebcam 02-06-2018 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22195535)
Who do you think you are fooling with that BS !
Everyone involved/getting caught is belittled to a coffee boy.
You can put it up for sale, but I doubt many will buy it.

Go back to fox views and get your next line cause this one doen't work.
It's a broken record.
The media tried to say he hasn't spoke to Trump since the campaign. Today he had to correct them

Carter Page says he's never spoken with Trump in his life

https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/carter...ver-met-trump/

Carter Page claims he?s never even met President Trump - NY Daily News

Carter Page was the tool used as an in. I said over a year ago they planted someone. Well now we know who at least one is.

VRPdommy 02-06-2018 01:06 PM
It is his involvement in the campaign and ties, not his chat with trump.
I've had a lot a bosses I never had a spoken work to.
Orders came through others or email.
But I have to say, I have never seen a admin that had so many folks with questionable ties to Russia.
And I doubt we will ever see it again.

But you must think that I believe that he has direct ties to trump and I don't. Don't care either.
I think Manafort and Flynn had more to do with him directly and indirectly.

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onwebcam 02-06-2018 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22195563)
It is his involvement in the campaign and ties, not his chat with trump.
I've had a lot a bosses I never had a spoken work to.
Orders came through others or email.
But I have to say, I have never seen a admin that had so many folks with questionable ties to Russia.
And I doubt we will ever see it again.

But you must think that I believe that he has direct ties to trump and I don't. Don't care either.
I think Manafort and Flynn had more to do with him directly and indirectly.
So Trump is guilty by disassociation? That's a new one (referring to Page)
Manafort and Flynn's charges have nothing to do with the Trump campaign....

Robbie 02-06-2018 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22195563)
But I have to say, I have never seen a admin that had so many folks with questionable ties to Russia.
You mean that you were AWARE of.

General Flynn for instance...he worked for Obama as well. He supposedly had all sorts of "Russian ties". But there wasn't a Russian witch hunt going on then with Obama. Only now with Trump.

We, the people...have been fucked by govt. and lied to our entire lives. The press and the establishment decides what we get to know and when we get to know it.

Just like Carter Page. He was under "investigation" for years right?
But they NEVER brought ANY charges against him. And unless you had access to FBI classified info... nobody had any idea he was being "investigated".

Also...like to point out again...the FBI has a long history of trampling on civil rights.
They had Martin Luther King under "investigation" for more than a decade.
They had John Lennon under "investigation" for more than a decade.
Wiretaps, surveillance photos and video...etc.

The FBI has long been a weapon of choice for politicians.

Rochard 02-06-2018 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22195351)
Republicans didn't have a problem with FISA when they voted to reauthorize it late last year!
Damn Republicans.

It's a Republican, recently reauthorized by Republicans, a FISA warrant filed by Republicans, which were reviewed by not one, not two, not three, but four Republicans judges and... Clearly it's Obama's fault.

onwebcam 02-06-2018 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22195735)
Damn Republicans.

It's a Republican, recently reauthorized by Republicans, a FISA warrant filed by Republicans, which were reviewed by not one, not two, not three, but four Republicans judges and... Clearly it's Obama's fault.
At that point Carter Page wasn't a household name... So far, and by Schiff's own admission, the only thing they were notified of was Steele had "political motivation"

It should also be mentioned that Schiff stated today that "the FISA court did not see the entire dossier" actually he said the didn't see the "salacious" parts...

So whatever they presented was tied up with a nice pretty bow.

One thing many keep ignoring is, the FISA court came back later and told the Obama admin what they were doing was illegal... Several times..

onwebcam 02-06-2018 03:26 PM
I'm breaking the news :) FYI I didn't write the article but you saw it unfold here first :)

In March 2016 Carter Page Was an FBI Employee – In October 2016 FBI Told FISA Court He’s a Spy…https://theconservativetreehouse.com...urt-hes-a-spy/

VRPdommy 02-06-2018 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22195635)
You mean that you were AWARE of.

General Flynn for instance...he worked for Obama as well. He supposedly had all sorts of "Russian ties". But there wasn't a Russian witch hunt going on then with Obama. Only now with Trump.

We, the people...have been fucked by govt. and lied to our entire lives. The press and the establishment decides what we get to know and when we get to know it.

Just like Carter Page. He was under "investigation" for years right?
But they NEVER brought ANY charges against him. And unless you had access to FBI classified info... nobody had any idea he was being "investigated".

Also...like to point out again...the FBI has a long history of trampling on civil rights.
They had Martin Luther King under "investigation" for more than a decade.
They had John Lennon under "investigation" for more than a decade.
Wiretaps, surveillance photos and video...etc.

The FBI has long been a weapon of choice for politicians.
It is a well publicized fact that Obama rid himself of Flynn when the knowledge hit his desk.
AND
He had warned the incoming Trump admin about him.

You are not going to create doubt in my mind just on history. Bring something solid to the front, lets investigate them all. But your not going to start by dismissing a investigation on flimsy allegations that are highly politically motivated. If for no other reason, it looks very obstructionist. If there is nothing to find, nothing will be found. They are not going to fabricate evidence. If there is any wrong doings, it will come out in the end for you must to have a 'chain of evidence'. How you got to this info... what lead you to it.
It works no different for POTUS and his cabinet than it does for anyone on the street.

Wanna investigate the FBI... great, let's do it. Just give them a reason to take it serious.
I wonder why the Senate does not See it the same way as the House. They both have independent oversight and separate investigations. The whole story might have the beginnings of merit if they both were saying the same thing. But I would welcome a separate investigation of all FISA warrants.

If there are crimes, they should be punished and I don't really care who did them.
I'm not going to look the other way. I don't like either party. Some are just more 'NUTS' than the others

Robbie 02-06-2018 05:02 PM
Doesn't really matter what you "accept".
The FBI is an institution that has been long reviled and criticized by Democrats (and for good reason).
But now...they are suddenly above reproach and can do no wrong?
That's bullshit and straight up hypocrisy based on nothing but hatred of Trump by the establishment politicians.

Rochard 02-06-2018 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22195925)
Doesn't really matter what you "accept".
The FBI is an institution that has been long reviled and criticized by Democrats (and for good reason).
But now...they are suddenly above reproach and can do no wrong?
That's bullshit and straight up hypocrisy based on nothing but hatred of Trump by the establishment politicians.
No one and no organization is above reproach.

With that said, there is zero indication of any wrong doing or any bias on the part of the FBI. Comey and the top three people at the FBI are Republicans. All four of the judges who approved the FISA warrants are Republicans appointed by Republicans. This is a FISA warrant. This isn't a joke. This is not keystone cops going to a crooked judge to get a warrant on undependable information. It has to go through multiple levels of the FBI before it goes to a judge. If that isn't enough, every time they went to renew the warrant they had to show what they found - which means they found enough evidence to continue with the warrant. Not once mind you - three times.

It's stunning how we had a dozen investigations into Hillary Clinton, yet one investigation into Trump and suddenly we are questioning the FBI.

If there is no wrong doing and nothing to hide, let the investigation continue. Instead, they are working on obstruction at all levels.

Bladewire 02-06-2018 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22195925)
Doesn't really matter what you "accept".
The FBI is an institution that has been long reviled and criticized by Democrats (and for good reason).
But now...they are suddenly above reproach and can do no wrong?
That's bullshit and straight up hypocrisy based on nothing but hatred of Trump by the establishment politicians.
As a Democrat I've always respected the FBI, even when idiots like Comey fuck things up.

You literally just make shit up and spit it out your ass it's just kind of sad.

To you, anyone not team trump is a bleeding heart liberal. Trump is a cuck, you're a cuck, but you're giving trump Alpha status and he's not an alpha. sad

Rochard 02-06-2018 06:06 PM
The best part is George Papadopoulos - the one who was in London telling everyone about how the Russians had the hacked emails before anyone else knew - has rolled over and is telling everyone everything he knows.

I'm sure he doesn't know anything.

VRPdommy 02-06-2018 06:27 PM
LOL...
Now Papadopoulos can be the coffee boy liar cheat sneak that was a plant.... LOL...

BaldBastard 02-06-2018 07:13 PM
Russians already meddling in US midterms

Russians already meddling in US midterms, Tillerson says | Fox News

onwebcam 02-06-2018 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22196019)
As a Democrat
Hey there Bladeliar, You've been saying for several years at least you weren't a Democrat. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

onwebcam 02-06-2018 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22196007)
No one and no organization is above reproach.

With that said, there is zero indication of any wrong doing or any bias on the part of the FBI.
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VRPdommy 02-06-2018 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22196079)
Go Get'm Rex !

I know, I know, the earth is flat and we did not go to the moon and there is not a roadster orbiting the earth...

Acepimp 02-06-2018 08:18 PM
Congressman Matt Gaetz schooled Jake Tapper so hard, Tapper accused him of being a Nazi!!! HAHAHA! CNN is PATHETIC :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

onwebcam 02-06-2018 08:47 PM
Update now mostly Unredacted Grassley memo released

https://www.scribd.com/document/3709...dium=affiliate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVZHGJHWkAEfp6H.jpg

lol @ Gowdy

onwebcam 02-06-2018 09:41 PM
Schiff for brains has some splainin to do... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Adam Schiff, the ranking Democratic member of the House Intel Committee was recorded speaking to Russian pranksters who spun elaborate 'kompromat' tale
He told Vocan and Lexus, two radio pranksters who have also hit Nikki Haley, that he would pass their claims to the FBI in a call made last year
The duo posed as a fake Ukrainian politician to say Trump had sex with Russian glamour model Olga Buzova after a Miss Universe pageant in 2013
In the call they said Putin had been passed naked pictures of Trump and now-president had used secret codes for talks with Russians
Duo gave emails to DailyMail.com which showed Schiff's staff trying to arrange to collect 'classified' documents from Ukraine's embassy in D.C.
Schiff's office claimed he was not fooled by the call and reported it to 'authorities' but did not explain why his staff kept up correspondence
Call posted in April 2017 surfaced as Schiff waits to see if Trump will declassify his Democratic version of the Devin Nunes memo which shamed the FBI



Adam Schiff spoofed with Russian claim of nude Trump pic | Daily Mail Online

BaldBastard 02-06-2018 09:50 PM
Gowdy hints Sidney Blumenthal leaked info to dossier author Steele | Fox News

Gowdy admitted that special counsel Robert Mueller would have been called in to investigate Russian actions during the 2016 election "regardless of whether or not there's a dossier."

"The dossier has nothing to do with the fact that someone tried to hack into the [Democratic National Committee] server," he said. "The dossier has nothing do with the meeting George Papadopoulos had in Great Britain. The dossier has nothing to do with [Donald Trump Jr.] meeting at Trump Tower [with a Russian lawyer]. The dossier has nothing to do with allegations of obstruction of justice."
--
However he forgets to mention the that memos released around the dossier have everything to do with trying to discredit information "gathered" before in and after the Trump tower meeting. All they do is add to the obstruction of justice charges. Also as noted by the many Ruskis on this board.. there was nothing in the dossier that wasn't public information to begin with. Well except for Peepee time.

onwebcam 02-06-2018 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22196177)
Gowdy hints Sidney Blumenthal leaked info to dossier author Steele | Fox News

Gowdy admitted that special counsel Robert Mueller would have been called in to investigate Russian actions during the 2016 election "regardless of whether or not there's a dossier."

"The dossier has nothing to do with the fact that someone tried to hack into the [Democratic National Committee] server," he said. "The dossier has nothing do with the meeting George Papadopoulos had in Great Britain. The dossier has nothing to do with [Donald Trump Jr.] meeting at Trump Tower [with a Russian lawyer]. The dossier has nothing to do with allegations of obstruction of justice."
--
However he forgets to mention the that memos released around the dossier have everything to do with trying to discredit information "gathered" before in and after the Trump tower meeting. All they do is add to the obstruction of justice charges. Also as noted by the many Ruskis on this board.. there was nothing in the dossier that wasn't public information to begin with. Well except for Peepee time.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

But I thought you liked Gowdy yesterday.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Ya'll are just too easy.. Gowdy is a fucking master. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MrBald it's done.. Democrats are going down....

BaldBastard 02-06-2018 10:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22196179)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

But I thought you liked Gowdy yesterday.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Ya'll are just too easy.. Gowdy is a fucking master. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MrBald it's done.. Democrats are going down....
Read before reply

Gowdy said..

"The dossier has nothing to do with the fact that someone tried to hack into the [Democratic National Committee] server," Gowdy said... "The dossier has nothing do with the meeting George Papadopoulos had in Great Britain. Gowdy said.. The dossier has nothing to do with [Donald Trump Jr.] meeting at Trump Tower [with a Russian lawyer]. Gowdy said.. The dossier has nothing to do with allegations of obstruction of justice."

And Tillerson's saying Russians already meddling in US midterms
Russians already meddling in US midterms, Tillerson says | Fox News


Meanwhile Donnys still not passing sanctions written into law...

Bladewire 02-06-2018 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22196181)
Read before reply

Gowdy said..

"The dossier has nothing to do with the fact that someone tried to hack into the [Democratic National Committee] server," he said. "The dossier has nothing do with the meeting George Papadopoulos had in Great Britain. The dossier has nothing to do with [Donald Trump Jr.] meeting at Trump Tower [with a Russian lawyer]. The dossier has nothing to do with allegations of obstruction of justice."
He's in denial.

He's been in denial for months

BaldBastard 02-06-2018 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22196183)
He's in denial.

He's been in denial for months
Must deflect from Russian supplied Chlorine gas being used in Syria again, tis important for Russia and Trump.

Bladewire 02-06-2018 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22196189)
Must deflect from Russian supplied Chlorine gas being used in Syria again, tis important for Russia and Trump.
Funny thing here I've never seen so many "American" nics that love Putin, hate American culture but love Trump :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Acepimp 02-06-2018 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22196195)
Funny thing here I've never seen so many "American" nics that love Putin, hate American culture but love Trump :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
That's because the whole Russia HOAX is made up and you're just too clueless to realize it.

So blinded by hatred of Trump (for some unknown reason) that you're willing to swallow any lies the DemoRats feed you. Very sad :1orglaugh

‘Blame Russia’ Plan Hatched by Podesta, Mook Within 24 Hours of Election Loss

How are you people this gullible?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

onwebcam 02-06-2018 10:46 PM
Apparently there's yet another "dossier" composed by yet another Clinton associate

Second Dossier by ?Creepy Clinton Confidante? Raises Doubts About FBI?s Trump Probe


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