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thommy 02-17-2018 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22209091)
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thommy 02-17-2018 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22208603)
Hey Thommy, i realize you can't help that you're mentally challenged / Low I.Q. gullible idiot, so I'll try to be nice to you.

"The repeal of the Obama-era regulation, "doesn't allow people to buy guns who have been properly adjudicated by a court of law as mentally ill or unstable."

"The Obama-era rule was designed to take away people's rights without due process of law. It would have flagged the names of people who, for example, have an anxiety disorder or depression which keeps them from working, and who, as the SSA puts it, ?need help in managing [their] personal money affairs,'"

Also, it's worth noting that there are already regulations on firearm purchases by persons who have a documented history of mental illness, or who have shown themselves to be a danger.

Reporters resurrect bogus narrative that Republicans made it 'easier' for the mentally ill to buy guns

You think an older person who let's their son or daughter manage their check book is mentally ill?? That's not accurate, and the social security administration doesn't need to be infringing on people's rights. Also, Gateway Pundit is not fake, dumbass. Now do us all a favor and...
aha and you fucking idiot think they go to a shop and say: i am mentally ill iwant to buy a gun???

with the obama law they would be REGISTERED and it is obligate for the seller to look in this register.

but trumpolin wiped them OUT from this register, you brain loose.

probably even YOUR NAME IS NOT IN THE REGISTER !!!!

kane 02-17-2018 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22209047)
The frequency of these shootings has dramatically increased since the widespread use of the psychotropic drugs. If it was just the guns then we would have seen shootings like this since the founding of our country.
I think it is a perfect storm of things. One is the drugs being prescribed.

Another is how readily available and affordable assault rifles are.

Another is that there has been a cultural shift in this country where the people who carry out these crimes now want to go out in a blaze of glory where 20 years ago they would have just taken their own lives.

Another is how we have reduced the availability of mental care and how people fall through the cracks. This recent event is a perfect example of how the authorities were told about this guy multiple times and did nothing.

Add in a dash of the internet being there to help them plan and pull these things off (as well as potentially helping them get the things they need to do it) as well as the general overall toxicity of the internet and a sprinkle of elected leaders who really don't care no matter what they might say, and you have a perfect storm for people like this.

As far as I can see, there are only a few ways to fix this issue (or at least curb it to some degree) and none of them are pleasant or easy and will anger some group no matter what they do.

Paul Markham 02-18-2018 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22208691)
Ahh but that was not your original comment Paul (to which I replied):

"This is an American problem because you keep voting for the people who only listen to you when they want your vote. Then when they get it they only listen to their funders. "

Of course few countries have this mass shooting in schools problem the USA has. But manipulating the electorate happens EVERYWHERE, in every country. Especially Great Britain.

Don't change the argument.
Republicans and Democrats are the same side of the coin. Neither will repeal or change the laws on guns by a lot. Because of the huge amounts of money they need to get elected. That can only come from corporations. Most European countries have more parties with totally different views, so every four or five years we get the chance to change the people in charge. In America, you don't even bother to change who you vote for. Not you as an individual, you as a nation.

Paul Markham 02-18-2018 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22208603)
Hey Thommy, i realize you can't help that you're mentally challenged / Low I.Q. gullible idiot, so I'll try to be nice to you.

"The repeal of the Obama-era regulation, "doesn't allow people to buy guns who have been properly adjudicated by a court of law as mentally ill or unstable."

"The Obama-era rule was designed to take away people's rights without due process of law. It would have flagged the names of people who, for example, have an anxiety disorder or depression which keeps them from working, and who, as the SSA puts it, ?need help in managing [their] personal money affairs,'"

Also, it's worth noting that there are already regulations on firearm purchases by persons who have a documented history of mental illness, or who have shown themselves to be a danger.

Reporters resurrect bogus narrative that Republicans made it 'easier' for the mentally ill to buy guns

You think an older person who let's their son or daughter manage their check book is mentally ill?? That's not accurate, and the social security administration doesn't need to be infringing on people's rights. Also, Gateway Pundit is not fake, dumbass. Now do us all a favor and...
How many people are killed a year by a chequebook?

Taking guns away from people with suspected mental illness was a great start.

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The Obama administration policy "would have required the Social Security Administration to report the records of some mentally ill beneficiaries to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System," as The Two-Way has reported. "Those who have been deemed mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs ? roughly 75,000 people ? would have been affected by the rule."
What's wrong with that?

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As we have reported, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, a leading supporter of the rule's repeal, has stated that "if a specific individual is likely to be violent due to the nature of their mental illness, then the government should have to prove it."
The Government has provided the data via the Social Security Administration. The individual now needs to prove he can be trusted with a gun. History tells us I'm right.

"If you can't manage your own financial affairs, how can we expect you are going to be a responsible steward of a dangerous, lethal firearm?" :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 02-18-2018 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22209499)
Republicans and Democrats are the same side of the coin. Neither will repeal or change the laws on guns by a lot. Because of the huge amounts of money they need to get elected. That can only come from corporations. Most European countries have more parties with totally different views, so every four or five years we get the chance to change the people in charge. In America, you don't even bother to change who you vote for. Not you as an individual, you as a nation.
On this Paul we are in total agreement. :thumbsup

GAMEFINEST 02-18-2018 11:11 PM
Gun laws will never change. Too much money to be made

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22210647)
On this Paul we are in total agreement. :thumbsup
Americans allowed their democracy to be taken away.

If all those who can't be bothered to vote voted for a complete outsider not in the pockets of big corporations. The scales would turn. They have to do that in every election. From City Dog Catcher to President.

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NewNick 02-19-2018 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22209047)
The frequency of these shootings has dramatically increased since the widespread use of the psychotropic drugs. If it was just the guns then we would have seen shootings like this since the founding of our country.
Not really.

You probably want to take a look at the history of narcotics.


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