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Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22207407)
Where? it states "Rosenstein said there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election."
Why are you defending Putin?

RedFred 02-16-2018 12:23 PM
Trump still refuses to admit Russia performed a coup on our democracy and refuses to put in place sanctions that were voted into place by Congress. He has committed treason.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22207411)
Like the way you are sucking theirs now? Keep deflecting.


So much for it being a hoax and witch hunt
I dont think they realize how obvious they are right now :2 cents:

crockett 02-16-2018 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22207397)
Mueller just sent a very strong message to President Trump. He is saying this investigation is very detailed and far reaching. Mueller and the FBI is going to turn over every last rock.
This pretty much ends any chance Trump can kill in investigation. Republicans can't lay cover for him now..

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207417)
She took over the DNC paid the bills and screwed the people's candidate out of the chance to become president. Bernie vs Trump, I think we can all agree Sanders wins.
Russians influenced our elections and have infiltrated our democracy and the White House.

thommy 02-16-2018 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22207407)
Where? it states "Rosenstein said there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election."
i can fully understand that you will never understand how brainwashing works and even deny that something like this could work with you because ALL brainwashed are like that.

the only thing i am not sure yet is WHAT they washed on you when they found out there is no brain to wash.

crockett 02-16-2018 12:26 PM
Hey at least now we know why Matt26z and all his fake nicks finally went away,. The FBI pulled the plug on their VPN sever..

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22207433)
Republicans can't lay cover for him now..
They're all bought and paid for. You're talking about people that the NRA has paid hundreds of millions of dollars to to allow children to buy guns and kill people in schools. Do you think those same people that will allow children to own guns give a shit about Russians helping them win control of America? The GOP is clearly thankful and protective of Putin.

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207437)
Russians influenced our elections and have infiltrated our democracy and the White House.
You are missing the bigger picture, she influenced your elections more. She fucked Democracy over and thus set in motion the path for Trump to win. Sanders beats Trump.

Russia has been meddling in your elections since WW2. This isn't what caused Trump to win. No one is trying to support Russia, but open your eyes. She fucked everything out of sheer greed to be President.

Sarn 02-16-2018 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207437)
Russians influenced our elections and have infiltrated our democracy and the White House.
:1orglaugh

thommy 02-16-2018 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22207441)
Hey at least now we know why Matt26z and all his fake nicks finally went away,. The FBI pulled the plug on their VPN sever..
looooooool

i really don´t think that one of them have the skills to qualify for more than a gfy troll.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207449)
You are missing the bigger picture
Russians influenced our elections and have infiltrated our democracy and the White House.

Thats the picture. Period

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22207455)
:1orglaugh
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207465)
Russians influenced our elections and have infiltrated our democracy and the White House.

Thats the picture. Period
One of your Parties infiltrated your democracy and no one cares. That's scary

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207473)
One of your Parties infiltrated your democracy and no one cares. That's scary
The thread is about 13 Russians indicted and 4 indictments of Trumps staff and 3 guilty plea deals.

"My democracy"?

Fuck off foreigner

thommy 02-16-2018 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22207455)
:1orglaugh
nice - if he did it personally we know now in what he is really professional !

so i have to correct myself. he is not too dumb for all and everything - at least he know how to switch lights on an off.
i am sure if he would tell that the people before, much much more would vote for him.

i´s awesome - yes it is - a president what can switch lights on and off - i am starting to become jealous.

OneHungLo 02-16-2018 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22207413)
This group was posing as Americans and worked/talked directly with the Trump campaign to organize ad buys as well as set up rallies inside the US.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rod-ros...tream-updates/

According to the indictment, "Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities."

So they have no proof that Trump's people knew they were Russian but Trump's people were working directly with them....

Keep in mind, this is just one small part of the entire investigation, just like Manafort and the other guys were a separate part. More will come..

What this does is puts it on record that Russians were involved and they did work with the Trump campaign even if the Trump campaign was ignorant of it. This now make is next to impossible for Trump to shut down the investigation..

You can bet your ass this was released as a way to make it impossible for Trump to shut down the investigation and force traitor Republicans to end their non sense that it's all fake news..
So you're saying that some Russians posing as American citizens spoke with unwitting Trump campaigners and that somehow ='s Trump himself was colluding with these people.

You're grasping there..you do know what "unwitting" means, right? lol.

thommy 02-16-2018 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207449)
You are missing the bigger picture, she influenced your elections more. She fucked Democracy over and thus set in motion the path for Trump to win. Sanders beats Trump.

Russia has been meddling in your elections since WW2. This isn't what caused Trump to win. No one is trying to support Russia, but open your eyes. She fucked everything out of sheer greed to be President.
whatever - the good thing is - at the next elections (IF it come to that point what i really doubt) democrats can set up a roll of american toilette paper and it will win.

onwebcam 02-16-2018 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207437)
Russians influenced our elections and have infiltrated our democracy and the White House.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh A whole 13 people changed the minds of 10s of millions with $100k in facebook ads praising Hillary.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:53 PM
^^^ Fake Russian nic loves Putin hates American society loves Trump

Sarn 02-16-2018 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207469)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup
:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22207481)
nice - if he did it personally we know now in what he is really professional !

so i have to correct myself. he is not too dumb for all and everything - at least he know how to switch lights on an off.
i am sure if he would tell that the people before, much much more would vote for him.

i´s awesome - yes it is - a president what can switch lights on and off - i am starting to become jealous.
Trump smartest guy and in the next election he will have 4 year experience :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22207505)


Trump smartest guy and in the next election he will have 4 year experience
Fuck off Russian asshole

At least you are your real self with this nic

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22207489)
whatever - the good thing is - at the next elections (IF it come to that point what i really doubt) democrats can set up a roll of american toilette paper and it will win.
That's the problem, they have that mentality. As I said, Dems ran a very liberal candidate in Alabama against a credibly accused child molester and he barely won. This kind of thinking is very dangerous. Do that and Mr. Trump will be there for another 4 years and everyone will keep wondering why.

Rochard 02-16-2018 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207417)
She took over the DNC paid the bills and screwed the people's candidate out of the chance to become president. Bernie vs Trump, I think we can all agree Sanders wins.
Bernie was an independent who became a Democrat only so he could run with the Democrat support. Of course the DNC wanted Hillary as their candidate.

Would the the DNC rather have someone they've worked with for three decades, or someone who was an independent nearly all of their entire political career?

I'm not saying Bernie is bad or anything, but he just wasn't a Democrat.

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22207517)
Bernie was an independent who became a Democrat only so he could run with the Democrat support. Of course the DNC wanted Hillary as their candidate.

Would the the DNC rather have someone they've worked with for three decades, or someone who was an independent nearly all of their entire political career?

I'm not saying Bernie is bad or anything, but he just wasn't a Democrat.
Trump wasn't a Republican. They tried to sink him but at least it played out fairly. The DNC has admitted they rigged it against Bernie, that's sick IMO

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207529)
Trump wasn't a Republican. They tried to sink him but at least it played out fairly. The DNC has admitted they rigged it against Bernie, that's sick IMO
This thread us about 13 Russians being indicted.

Create your own Hillary Bernie thread asshole :321GFY

MaDalton 02-16-2018 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207377)
State your point. You're being vague.
US politics has helped turning countries into dictatorships for decades - that's my point


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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22207381)
I don't get this. I don't like her, but I never saw her do anything bad. Or even wrong. Benghazi was handled the only way it could have been handled, and had little to do with Hillary and the State Department. The email crap was pure bullshit; Lots of high ranking government employees had the same exact set up.

What did she ever do that was bad?
they had to know that she had way too much baggage from all the years with Bill and her own term. No matter how much it was her own fault or not.

and they thought they had it in their pocket way too early

Sarn 02-16-2018 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207509)
Fuck off Russian asshole
At least you are your real self with this nic
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207513)
That's the problem, they have that mentality. As I said, Dems ran a very liberal candidate in Alabama against a credibly accused child molester and he barely won. This kind of thinking is very dangerous. Do that and Mr. Trump will be there for another 4 years and everyone will keep wondering why.
That's not a problem. Trump will win again :1orglaugh

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22207559)
US politics has helped turning countries into dictatorships for decades - that's my point

they had to know that she had way too much baggage from all the years with Bill and her own term. No matter how much it was her own fault or not.

and they thought they had it in their pocket way too early
Got it

You think America deserves whats happening

You think America has done before what Putin is doing to America

And now you're trying to shift the conversation to Hillary Clinton.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22207569)
That's not a problem. Trump will win again
Fuck off piece of shit Rusdian get a life.

A lot of good Russians in the world but you're a piece of shit Russian :321GFY

Robbie 02-16-2018 01:25 PM
Wow...So the WORLD Wide Web is now a place that anybody outside of the U.S. is not ALLOWED to comment on our elections because that is "meddling"?

Holy shit. This is the dumbest thing EVER.

Just think of all of the people right here on GFY who don't live in the U.S.A. and comment every day about our politics...Mueller will soon be indicting YOU for trying to change people's minds about shit.

What a joke.

It's like they are trying to turn our country into the old Soviet Union where we are not allowed to hear other viewpoints from around the world.
They are criminalizing social media free speech.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:26 PM
Putin has cemented destroyed Rusdian/ American relations for at least another generation. This really sucks and it sucks how he's destroyed democracy in Russia I hope his people keep fighting against him even if it means to the death.

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207557)
This thread us about 13 Russians being indicted.

Create your own Hillary Bernie thread asshole :321GFY
Quiet down pal. People are trying to have a real discourse here, you might be able to learn something from people. I thought you had be blocked. Please put it back it will help us both out. Keep burying your head in the sand, let's not try to learn anything from the mistakes that brought us here.

CarlosTheGaucho 02-16-2018 01:28 PM
I went through the whole indictment, what appears quite odd is that there is a total lack of any quantification when it comes to describing the activities of those indicted.

The only numbers there that I was able found there are pretty much that cca 8400 Facebook users at some point clicked on an ad for a Florida rally, and that they at some point contacted about 100 US citizens in a FB group.

Please check for yourself.

That makes it quite difficult to get any idea about a potential effect of such campaigns. In fact it makes the content of the whole indictment look very marginal at best.

It would certainly make for a difficult case to persuade a jury that such campaigns would have a notable effect on the outcome of the elections, which is likely the primary reason why such claim is not even mentioned in the indictment in the first place.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207585)
Quiet down pal. People are trying to have a real discourse here, you might be able to learn something from people. I thought you had be blocked. Please put it back it will help us both out. Keep burying your head in the sand, let's not try to learn anything from the mistakes that brought us here.
Stop trying to derail my thread asshole

Make your own thread

beerptrol 02-16-2018 01:30 PM
lol. The russians hired actors...who's the pro russian numbnuts who is always saying crisis actors on this board?

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22207587)
I went through the whole indictment, what appears quite odd is that there is a total lack of any quantification when it comes to describing the activities of those indicted.

The only numbers there that I was able found there are pretty much that cca 8400 Facebook users at some point clicked on an ad for a Florida rally, and that they at some point contacted about 100 US citizens in a FB group.

Please check for yourself.

That makes it quite difficult to get any idea about a potential effect of such campaigns. In fact it makes the content of the whole indictment look very marginal at best.

It would certainly make for a difficult case to persuade a jury that such campaigns would have a notable effect on the outcome of the elections, which is likely the primary reason why such claim is not even mentioned in the indictment in the first place.
Indictmemts don't lay out all the evidence, that happens at trial.

Indictments are purposely vague when an investigation is ongoing.

You trying to minimize what has just happened is part of the gaslighting tactic. Lame

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 22207587)
I went through the whole indictment, what appears quite odd is that there a total lack of any quantification when it comes to describing the activities of those indicted.

The only numbers there that I was able found there are pretty much that cca 8400 Facebook users at some point clicked on an ad for a Florida rally, and that they at some point contacted about 100 US citizens in a FB group.

Please check for yourself.

That makes it quite difficult to get any idea about a potential effect of such campaigns. In fact it makes the content of the whole indictment look very marginal at best.

It would certainly make for a difficult case to persuade a jury that such campaigns would have a notable effect on the outcome of the elections, which is likely the primary reason why such claim is not even mentioned in the indictment in the first place.
I read it as well. It really doesn't say much, it just confirms what Facebook said 6 months or so ago. That Russians were buying ads promoting issues from both sides. Though it did mention that some people associated with Trump unknowingly may have had contact with Russian agents posing as Americans, but they don't talk about specifics at all. Really pretty flimsy right now, but probably more to come.

astronaut x 02-16-2018 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207195)
So they argue on both sides of an argument to sew discourse and further divide Americans
They should be considered enemy combatants of the United States. It is essentially psychological warfare.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22207613)
They should be considered enemy combatants of the United States. It is essentially psychological warfare.
GFY is where they cut their teeth :2 cents:

#ThanksAVN

CarlosTheGaucho 02-16-2018 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22207579)
Wow...So the WORLD Wide Web is now a place that anybody outside of the U.S. is not ALLOWED to comment on our elections because that is "meddling"?

Holy shit. This is the dumbest thing EVER.

Just think of all of the people right here on GFY who don't live in the U.S.A. and comment every day about our politics...Mueller will soon be indicting YOU for trying to change people's minds about shit.

What a joke.

It's like they are trying to turn our country into the old Soviet Union where we are not allowed to hear other viewpoints from around the world.
They are criminalizing social media free speech.
That's the very interesting part, I'm commenting on the US politics on the internet too, I've endorsed one of the candidates as well.

Does that require me, legally, to register as a "foreign agent" in US? Could I, as a person outside of US, expressing preference in US politics on the internet, be indicted for "meddling" with US politics?

It sounds absurd, but I would be frankly interested in the legal angle here.

Boozer 02-16-2018 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207617)
GFY is where they cut their teeth :2 cents:

#ThanksAVN
Calling out AVN has really worked out for you.

Hopefully they will ban your ass for all the shit talking you do against them.

The Porn Nerd 02-16-2018 01:46 PM
Why do Republicans love Russians so much?
Is it because they all secretly like Putin, his tactics and his obvious over-reaching machismo?

Also: compared to George W. Bush doesn't Trump look (and act) like a bit of a pussy?
Let's grab him! LOL

astronaut x 02-16-2018 01:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22207579)
Wow...So the WORLD Wide Web is now a place that anybody outside of the U.S. is not ALLOWED to comment on our elections because that is "meddling"?

Holy shit. This is the dumbest thing EVER.

Just think of all of the people right here on GFY who don't live in the U.S.A. and comment every day about our politics...Mueller will soon be indicting YOU for trying to change people's minds about shit.

What a joke.

It's like they are trying to turn our country into the old Soviet Union where we are not allowed to hear other viewpoints from around the world.
They are criminalizing social media free speech.
You act like you are a smart guy. But you are not. You are selling out your own country because that's the piece of shit you are.

People have opinions. But they have found vulnerabilities in American society that they can capitalize on. Its called thinking outside of the fucking box. Something too difficult for people like you. This is how people like Trump get elected. This is how we ended up in IRAQ. Because dumb rednecks, dumb Christians, greedy motherfuckers like you, and a ton of other simple-minded social groups think that our soldiers and prayers are all we need to win wars and keep the money flowing. We have the most powerful armies in the word, and they know they cannot defeat us through those means.

You are too fucking dumb to realize they are running full scale psyops the likes that we have never seen before on us. Keep taking that fucking blue pill.

onwebcam 02-16-2018 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22207633)
Why do Republicans love Russians so much?
Is it because they all secretly like Putin, his tactics and his obvious over-reaching machismo?

Also: compared to George W. Bush doesn't Trump look (and act) like a bit of a pussy?
Let's grab him! LOL
Attention all numbnuts. Obama and Hillary are the ones who alowed the sale of 20% of US uranium to Russia.. Hillary Clinton is the one who's foundation received $130 million in "donations"

None of the indictments have anything to do with Trump... You've been had.. The joke is on you..

MaDalton 02-16-2018 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207571)
Got it

You think America deserves whats happening

You think America has done before what Putin is doing to America

And now you're trying to shift the conversation to Hillary Clinton.
you have reading comprehension problems :2 cents:

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22207633)
Why do Republicans love Russians so much?
Is it because they all secretly like Putin, his tactics and his obvious over-reaching machismo?

Also: compared to George W. Bush doesn't Trump look (and act) like a bit of a pussy?
Let's grab him! LOL
Most of the alt-right hate fake nics here are run by a Polish guy & Russian guy and they don't represent most real Americans, Republican or otherwise.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22207597)
lol. The russians hired actors...who's the pro russian numbnuts who is always saying crisis actors on this board?
Onwebcam / Wehateporn / Mineistaken / Eonblue / Boozer / tfto for starters

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22207643)
you have reading comprehension problems :2 cents:
[IMG]https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1500/0*UE1enfziixZjcWjv.[/IMG]

Bladewire 02-16-2018 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22207643)
you have reading comprehension problems :2 cents:
Aaaaaw didnt like being called out on your agenda so now go for personal insults. Got it


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