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Kafka 02-24-2018 04:39 PM
The American Dream.


https://preview.ibb.co/kN8hTH/guns.jpg

MFCT 02-24-2018 04:47 PM
Do any of you shit-4-brainzes realize that choking was the 4th leading cause of unintentional injury death in 2017? By far, the leading culprit in these unfortunate incidents is food. I need not tell you the obvious solution to this very deadly problem. But I will anyway:

BAN FOOD.

There. I said it. And if you disagree with me, you're a Trump supporter and probably a racist too.

kane 02-24-2018 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22219027)
Nobody is saying to "arm the teachers". But the percentage of teachers and coaches who are ALREADY licensed to carry a firearm...it seems foolish to NOT have them carrying their weapons with them in case of a madman entering the school.

I graduated in 1979. And in my highschool in central Florida, all the guys who drove pickup trucks had their gun racks in the back window of their trucks with loaded rifles in them. Right there in the parking lot of the school.
But nobody was shooting up schools then. It wasn't a "gun free zone" like it is now.

I think that's the argument being made for having the 10 to 20 percent of all teachers and coaches who already have hand guns being allowed to "conceal carry" in the school.
It no longer is an easy and soft target.

As I said, when I was in highschool this kind of thing didn't happen. Anybody that tried that would have been killed pretty quick.

BUT...now that killers KNOW that a school is a "gun free zone", it makes it a "Soft target".

You don't see many people walking into a gun show convention, or a police dept. and shooting the place up...they KNOW they will get shot back at.

The President pointed out that these killers are cowards at heart. They don't go after "Hard targets"...only soft ones. And schools are pretty damn soft these days.

Anyway, that's an argument being made by the President.
The only other way to stop this would be to repeal the second amendment, confiscate all guns, and then give it another 40 or 50 years for ALL the guns to finally be gone.

By that time...we will have a lot more school shootings taking place.

Why not simply harden them up NOW and put a stop to it. Then everybody can talk and talk in Washington D.C. about "gun control". (because that's all they ever do is talk)
I guess I just feel like teachers having guns may be a road to nowhere. Even if it works and it keeps people from shooting up schools, do we not think they will just switch to softer targets like shopping malls, grocery stores, churches etc.

To me, we need to do two things. We need to increase security in some way to make it harder for the shooters to carry out their deeds and we need to look at how we sell guns, who we sell them to, and what kind of guns they are. I think if we don't at least try to address the root of the problem we are just going to shift the problem to a different location.

kane 02-24-2018 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22218995)
i think apart from the fact that a school massacre can also be done when they come out from school we do not have to forget all other cases.
what about the church ? also close it and set guards inside?
what about the las vegas killer ? how do you want to protect the people what are killed from inside to outside?

if you compare this problem with drugs - you should allow to produce an import drug because the drugs are not the problem then. the people who take it are the problem.

i donīt know why you people are not able to think just logic in that matter.
It's a big problem that is going to be difficult to solve. I agree these shootings don't just take place at schools but we can increase school security which is one step in the right direction. Until we look at the root cause of this and address how to best keep mentally ill people away from guns we aren't going to solve the problem across the board. As I said in my other post, my worry is that if we lock down schools and make then secure, those shooters will just move to other places.

crockett 02-24-2018 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22217490)
to be fair mental illness happens in 100% of these mass shootings as well. nobody sane and level headed are shooting up schools en mass clearly. Unless you believe people are doing these for no other reason than convenience?
That's fine but not all of them show warning signs. It's easy to say get them mental heath care, but do you have any idea how hard it is to get someone committed? Are we going to go around locking up every person who goes a little nuts or acts strange?

Even if the cops had arrested this kid prior for threats, at best they could hold him for 24 to 48hrs and then what? If he didn't do anything they can't keep him ,locked up..

Even if he were to be put on some ban list for background checks, that only cover ccw's and pistols.. He can still buy a rifle, shot gun, assault rifle or buy from some adverage Joe selling his gun face to face..

Robbie 02-24-2018 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kane (Post 22219045)
my worry is that if we lock down schools and make then secure, those shooters will just move to other places.
That's possible...but most places are already much more "hard" than schools are.
And even though I think ALL human life is valuable...there is something that is especially hard-hitting when it's children being shot.

I would say that any and every place that is a "gun-free zone" is a soft target for these monsters.
When they put those signs up at public places that say "Gun Free Zone", it's like waving a red flag in front of a bull if you think about it.

I was thinking about this discussion last night. I stopped in at a bar here in Vegas to have a couple of drinks and watch a band for a few minutes.
And I noticed that one of the guys sitting at the bar was open-carrying a loaded 9mm pistol in a holster on his hip.

I spoke to him at the bar, he was a retired Marine and was licensed to carry that firearm.

I don't really worry too much about anything...not one of those kinds of people who are scared everywhere they go. I can handle myself physically if it comes to that.
But I do have to say...that marine sitting there with that pistol on his hip made me feel even more secure.
NOBODY was going to come walking into that bar shooting the place up.
It's a bar that is well known here in Vegas that it is frequented by people carrying guns.

Unlike that gay bar in Orlando where the shooter KNEW he was gonna be free to do as he pleased...people in Vegas KNOW they will get their asses shot if they try that in bars in this town.

I know that's off-topic somewhat, just wanted to share it.

kane 02-24-2018 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22219059)
That's possible...but most places are already much more "hard" than schools are.
And even though I think ALL human life is valuable...there is something that is especially hard-hitting when it's children being shot.

I would say that any and every place that is a "gun-free zone" is a soft target for these monsters.
When they put those signs up at public places that say "Gun Free Zone", it's like waving a red flag in front of a bull if you think about it.

I was thinking about this discussion last night. I stopped in at a bar here in Vegas to have a couple of drinks and watch a band for a few minutes.
And I noticed that one of the guys sitting at the bar was open-carrying a loaded 9mm pistol in a holster on his hip.

I spoke to him at the bar, he was a retired Marine and was licensed to carry that firearm.

I don't really worry too much about anything...not one of those kinds of people who are scared everywhere they go. I can handle myself physically if it comes to that.
But I do have to say...that marine sitting there with that pistol on his hip made me feel even more secure.
NOBODY was going to come walking into that bar shooting the place up.
It's a bar that is well known here in Vegas that it is frequented by people carrying guns.

Unlike that gay bar in Orlando where the shooter KNEW he was gonna be free to do as he pleased...people in Vegas KNOW they will get their asses shot if they try that in bars in this town.

I know that's off-topic somewhat, just wanted to share it.
I too think all life is valuable, but when kids get shot it is more devastating.

Maybe we need to focus on schools first and see what happens then deal with things as they come up. Personally, I think if we are going to find a long-term solution to this we are going to have to come up with some kind of combination of laws/mental health and security. As I told a friend of mine the other day, the idea is that you put a fair amount of hurdles in place that people have to jump to buy a gun. The hope is that every hurdle is another chance for someone to catch the person who is ill and keep them from buying the gun or it gives the ill person more time to think and maybe change their mind. I don't know exactly how to go about those and what those hurdles are, but I feel like increased security isn't going to be enough.

DBS.US 02-24-2018 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22214463)
CHEAPER.

How about we make every single gun sold in the US cost $10,000? Now THAT would reduce gun crmes instantly. Make bullits $100 apiece. Solved. Next.
Thinking like that is why nothing ever gets done.:disgust

The Porn Nerd 02-24-2018 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 22219111)
Thinking like that is why nothing ever gets done.:disgust
Why? Because it would solve the problem? Or reduce it 1000%?

Nothing is being done NOW except more blah blah blah.

Hey, higher prices means higher profits so gun manufacturers should love this idea. Who wouldn't want to sell a product that costs 10K? There's nothing in the Constitution that says gun prices have to be affordable. There's yer loophole folks. Exploit it and stop the madness.

EonBlue 02-24-2018 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22218991)
so than tell what the difference is between usa and canada.
are canadians less crazy ? if yes another reason to take the americans the guns away.
We're probably a little less crazy. Maybe the climate. :1orglaugh

But the US has 10x the population of Canada so, yes, there are bound to be more crazy people. They just have to do a better job keeping the guns away from them.


Quote:
Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22218991)
i think the answer is easy to answer with a contra question.
how many people you think would this school shooter be able to kill with a knife ?
and would he have dared to go in there with a knife and face hundreds of students?
have you seen this midget? 3 girls would take his knife away and kick his ass.
Knife-wielding attackers kill 29, injure 130 at China train station

You'll notice that nobody "took away their knives and kicked their ass".

Sure, it was 10 attackers but I bet you a couple of guns in the crowd would have greatly cut down on the casualties.

Anyways. That's not the point and we're not talking about a kid attacking a school with a knife are we? If you're walking down the street at night and three thugs come at you with a knife what are you going to do? Hope that Batman comes to save you? Good luck.


Quote:
Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22218991)
no they will not - they also donīt do it in countries with gun control.
and even with this argument there are 99% less people killed.
So then tell me - how do you plan to get the guns away from the criminals and keep them out of their hands?


Quote:
Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22218991)
today, after they went this step, england is one of the countries with the less homicides in the whole world and even when switzerland had not such a problem (probably similar to canada) the homicides went down DRASTIC.

so how many more examples you need.
it works everywhere. show me ONE country in the world where it does NOT work.
Murder and homicide rates before and after gun bans


Anyways, it's pointless to argue this with you.

But good luck on your crusade to take guns away from Americans.




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Robbie 02-24-2018 06:57 PM
Also keep this in mind...even without guns, England is the most violent country in all of Europe:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...77_468x636.jpg

EonBlue 02-24-2018 09:31 PM
thommy, read this story:

https://www.pe.com/2018/02/20/charge...et-homeowners/


So you would be happier that these two elderly people potentially end up murdered to fulfill your desire that they be denied guns?




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just a punk 02-25-2018 12:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22212173)
experts claim guns cause mass shootings
Guns are not a problem. The guy who pulls the trigger on civilians is. You know that semi-automatic guns are freely sold almost everywhere? In South America, Canada, Russia the EU countries etc. But only in the USA these guns are being used for mass shooting. And for some unknown reason Americans prefer to do that in the schools. What's wrong with you, guys?

I can visit any online shop and one of these is mine for less than $500 USD: https://оружие59.рф/catalog/weapons/shotgun/izhmash/

But... I don't need it. I feel secure w/o any gun in my house.

EonBlue 02-25-2018 12:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22219399)
Guns are not a problem. The guy who pulls the trigger on civilians is.
^^^ Yep.

Guns are only a problem in the hands of criminals.

Now if only someone could ban criminals.




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MsCheyenne 02-25-2018 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22213045)
You complain about people doing nothing but you hate on Democrats who try to push reasonable gun laws. You praise Trump who killed a law Obama signed that was specifically meant to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.. Now you claim and Trump claims mentally ill are the problem..

Humm why then did he sign a EO to allow mentally ill to get guns?


https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/polit...lth/index.html


Oh look CNN filling our heads with dumb things Trump did that you will call fake news...

This actually is being taken out of context. First of all, Trump rescinding the bill hasn't taken effect yet. Is the entire system messed up? Yes. Does it rest, solely, on the Democrats or Republicans side? No. It is the entire system. Even if this law, which hadn't of taken effect yet, were in place, this kid slipped through a faulty system. The FBI neglected to respond to multiple warnings. The local county sheriff department refused to respond to 18 warnings about him in a single year. The school district tried to have him baker acted but the doctor at the mental health facility found it unnecessary. The police responded to 39 calls for 911 help at the house regarding this kid but never arrested him. The list is quite long of how this kid slipped through the cracks. In all of this, I hope both parties see they need to work together instead of grandstanding and, pandering to special interest groups. Common sense measures should have been taken after Columbine, 19 years ago. Bill Clinton was in office then.

pimpmaster9000 02-25-2018 03:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 22219143)


quote from the article:

Looking across countries, it would then falsely appear that stricter gun control resulted in higher crime. Economists refer to this as an ?endogeniety? problem. The adoption of the policy is a reaction to other events (that is, ?endogenous?), in this case crime. To resolve this, one must examine how the high-crime areas that chose to adopt the controls changed over time ?not only relative to their own past levels but also relative to areas that did not institute such controls.

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 03:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 22218427)
Societal illness.

:2 cents:
Why then do you support a sick society being given access to powerful weapons?

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 03:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22218499)
Tell that to Timothy Mcveigh...or the 9-11 terrorists
This debate isn't about stopping the terrorist.

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 03:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22218635)
this is not an argument.

because you can kill someone with a hammer does not mean you have to give them
even more dangerous stuff.

what did change since 9/11 ?
how hard is it today to fly and what a mess are security controls.

and believe me they WOULD forbid to fly if there would be an alternative.

planes are NECESSARY and there is no way to go around that. WHERE is the NEED for a gun?

i mean all numbers you see wherever tell you the same story. why canīt you just accept that USA is the country with the most gun homicides and mass killers.

in all history not even a fraction of americans have been killed from terrorists as from other americans. 9/11 is a big deal for you? ok why are the 100 thousand what got killed since then from other americans are not a big deal ?

in what kind of world you want to live when people seriously discussing to secure kids in schools with the army just because too many people use their right to have a weapon to kill other people ????

you prohibit to smoke a cigarette even outside because it COULD possibly kill someone - so why do you not expect killing from a gun ?

what a fuck is going on in minds what even THINK about such a nonsense ?

there are many many many examples of countries with very restricted laws and they do NOT have the problem - so WHAT other prove do you need for that?
We agree on this. :thumbsup

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 22219401)
^^^ Yep.

Guns are only a problem in the hands of criminals.

Now if only someone could ban criminals.
Criminals don't shoot up schools, malls, churches, etc. This is about stopping mass shooting where until it starts the perpetrator isn't classed as a criminal.

Are convicted criminals allowed to buy guns?

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 03:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 22218685)
1) Hunting.
2) Pest control.
3) Sport shooting.
4) Protection.
None of those requires semi-automatic weapons, armour piercing bullets and large magazines.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 22218763)
I live in a country that actually still has wildlife unlike your country where you have killed it all off.





I live in a gun controlled country and sport shooter's guns are not locked up in the sport centre. They are permitted to carry them back and forth to the sport centre and keep them locked up in their home. Technically nothing to stop any one of them from going nuts one day and going on a shooting rampage.




So people only commit crimes with guns? What if someone comes at you with a knife? Or are you going to fight him off with another knife, if you have one? Your fists? Your purse? Or would you rather have a gun?

What about an unarmed man simply being able to overpower a woman and rape her? No weapons involved? Do you expect her to fight back only by clawing, kicking and screaming? Or would she be much more able to save herself with a gun?

And if you ban guns for everybody the criminals will still have guns because they're criminals and they don't follow laws to begin with.

A gun ban in the US will lead to a sharp increase in crime guaranteed.



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You also live in a society that's sick.

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 03:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22218959)
The President said in his speech that he does NOT want to have armed guards in uniforms all over our schools. It would no longer feel like school and more like a military camp.

His idea was to have a way to allow those teachers and coaches who have experience with firearms and already own them anyway allowed to CONCEAL CARRY on campus.

For instance, that coach in this latest incident. He loved those kids so much that he jumped in front of them and was shot to death saving them. Now imagine if he had his firearm holstered on his side under his shirt.
He could have went on the offensive as opposed to simply dying by taking bullets.

I think that it's a pretty good idea.
I ALSO think that schools need to "harden" up in other ways as well.

Whenever I would go to my kids school...I parked my car, walked onto campus, walked into the school, walked down the hallway to the office where I "checked in" and they gave me a stick on name tag.

That means I COULD have had a gun and just walked right in and started shooting.

How about student ID cards with bar-codes on them. And an entrance at the front where all the students come in through a turnstile swiping their cards as they enter.
And any parents visiting the school would be stopped right there to show ID, walk through a metal detector, and THEN get a pass to go on to school grounds.
You are moving the problem from schools to other places the public gathers.

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 04:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MFCT (Post 22219041)
Do any of you shit-4-brainzes realize that choking was the 4th leading cause of unintentional injury death in 2017? By far, the leading culprit in these unfortunate incidents is food. I need not tell you the obvious solution to this very deadly problem. But I will anyway:

BAN FOOD.

There. I said it. And if you disagree with me, you're a Trump supporter and probably a racist too.
This debate is about reducing these mass shootings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_s..._United_States

Grapesoda 02-25-2018 04:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22219507)
This debate is about reducing these mass shootings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_s..._United_States
if you were at the beach and sharks ate a few of your friends... a couple of different times over the course of the year...

so you guys all chat about shark repellants, and killing sharks and outlawing sharks and...

down the beach another town put up a shark barrier, none of their friends has been eaten lately by sharks while you on the other hand... you guys just keep talking and swimming...

I know, can you believe it?

just a punk 02-25-2018 04:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22219525)
so you guys all chat about shark repellants, and killing sharks and outlawing sharks and...
The problem is that in the United States sharks wait you over every corner - you won't get a time to pull out a gun because on a 5 meters distance a knife always wins. And I don't even mention your police that kill you like rabbits just for fun.

Nothing personal man, just the info I see in CNN and other news everyday...

Grapesoda 02-25-2018 04:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22219535)
The problem is that in the United States sharks wait you over every corner - you won't get a time to pull out a gun because on a 5 meters distance a knife always wins. And I don't even mention your police that kill you like rabbits just for fun.

Nothing personal man, just the info I see in CNN and other news everyday...
bro stop watching the press releases about America. the dudes putting out the releases hate fucking America. trust me. American is fucking awesome, you don't have a few tools where you live?

there is a reason everybody on the planet wants to live here except a few assholes. you haven't seen any of the loud mouth cunts actually move out of America have you? :2 cents:

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 04:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22219059)
I was thinking about this discussion last night. I stopped in at a bar here in Vegas to have a couple of drinks and watch a band for a few minutes.
And I noticed that one of the guys sitting at the bar was open-carrying a loaded 9mm pistol in a holster on his hip.

I spoke to him at the bar, he was a retired Marine and was licensed to carry that firearm.
So only issue gun license to ex-marines.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22219159)
Also keep this in mind...even without guns, England is the most violent country in all of Europe:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...77_468x636.jpg
How does that compare to the US?. Per 100,000.

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 04:51 AM
you have the gun control lobby putting forward sensible arguments and the anti-control lobby putting forward nonsense or misleading the debate.

Open gun carry. Try that in an airport, schools are targetted more than airports.

More secure schools. Only moves the problem to other venues.

Defence against criminals. Buy an alarm system.

Hunting. Requires a single shotgun.
Pest control. So only those living in areas where bears and mountain lions roam and don't own bear repellant or a fog horn!!

Sports shooting. Does not require anything as deadly as the weapons used in mass shootings.

Robbie 02-25-2018 11:18 AM
Paul, I hate to even answer you when you are in "Troll mode".

NOBODY is talking about "Open Carry". They are saying "CONCEALED carry" so that a shooter would never know who may or may not be there to stop them.

Just like on airplanes.

Grapesoda 02-25-2018 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22219873)
Paul, I hate to even answer you when you are in "Troll mode".

NOBODY is talking about "Open Carry". They are saying "CONCEALED carry" so that a shooter would never know who may or may not be there to stop them.

Just like on airplanes.
Robbie I sent this to the times...

Are the gun debates killing our kids?

Yes, the gun regulation debates are killing our children. For the last 15 – 20 years, the debates have been almost continuing … while heartbroken parents continue to bury their children.

The issues of gun regulations and school shootings are non-related issues, yet commingled in the public mind. Current gun regulations have not stopped the murders, while the next shooter is more than likely already well armed, and making plans… heated arguments have replaced all positive action and our kids are dying.

My thought is we separate the issue of gun regulation and school shootings, with gun regulation debates to be tabled until our children are safe. Possibly six months. Regulations are the line’s we color in as a society, regulations are important.

However, our first and foremost responsibility as a society and as adults is to protect our children. Saving our children tomorrow is a simple matter of protecting the schools today. Let’s close the barn door before the cows run out this time.

Warm regards, ******* (typos, bad grammar and all)

Grapesoda 02-25-2018 01:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22219563)
So only issue gun license to ex-marines.



How does that compare to the US?. Per 100,000.
google??????

Robbie 02-25-2018 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22219563)
So only issue gun license to ex-marines.
There are many different "licenses" to carry firearms.
I don't NEED one to simply own my shotgun.

But if I wanted to carry a weapon on me in public...I need to be licensed. And that requires that you pass training classes by state law.

So your statement is ignorant (of course) and has absolutely NOTHING to do with the story I was telling about being at that bar on Friday night.

Paul Markham 02-25-2018 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22219873)
Paul, I hate to even answer you when you are in "Troll mode".

NOBODY is talking about "Open Carry". They are saying "CONCEALED carry" so that a shooter would never know who may or may not be there to stop them.

Just like on airplanes.
They don't care. How many of these shooters want to get out alive?

Or are you willing to sacrifice lives while a person with a concealed weapon takes it out and deals with the situation?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22220045)
There are many different "licenses" to carry firearms.
I don't NEED one to simply own my shotgun.

But if I wanted to carry a weapon on me in public...I need to be licensed. And that requires that you pass training classes by state law.

So your statement is ignorant (of course) and has absolutely NOTHING to do with the story I was telling about being at that bar on Friday night.
So you are saying a mass murderer will follow the law. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Please come up with sensible arguments. Your statements are ignorant. Your meeting an ex-marine with a gun has absolutely nothing to do with stopping school shootings. It's just a side track to allow you to keep your penis extensions.

Robbie 02-25-2018 03:33 PM
Never mind Paul...we are having 2 different discussions. I'm saying that gun free zones attract killers.
And you...well, I have no idea what you think you are replying to.
I don't think you are following what I am saying at all and instead you are writing things from some preconceived notions that have nothing to do with what I am saying.

Maddening as usual. Lol

MFCT 02-26-2018 02:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22219507)
This debate is about reducing these mass shootings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_s..._United_States
You're completely right, Paul. However, I was just pointing out that if guns are banned by reason that they kill people. Then by the same token, food must also be banned. Because food kills people by choking.

If one scenario makes sense, then both scenarios must make sense. If one scenario doesn't make sense, then neither scenario can make sense.

Grapesoda 02-26-2018 07:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22220105)
Never mind Paul...we are having 2 different discussions. I'm saying that gun free zones attract killers.
And you...well, I have no idea what you think you are replying to.
I don't think you are following what I am saying at all and instead you are writing things from some preconceived notions that have nothing to do with what I am saying.

Maddening as usual. Lol
the Colorado movie shooter went out of his area of town to find a theater that did not allow CCW, hey Paul how did that work out. :thumbsup

and thank you Robbie I thought it was just me on Paul's mental wanderings...

Grapesoda 02-26-2018 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22215515)
The only long-term solution is to take guns away from the general public. It will take decades because it's a problem that has built over decades.
how about we cut yer nasty dick off so you never rape a woman?

Grapesoda 02-26-2018 07:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22215515)
The only long-term solution is to take guns away from the general public. It will take decades because it's a problem that has built over decades.
how about we cut yer nasty dick off so you never rape a woman? after a few years you won't even care anymore :2 cents:

Grapesoda 02-26-2018 07:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22218059)
Then why do these shooting happen only in America?
they happen everywhere ... count your meds a bit better will ya... and I actually heard the reason about 50 years ago on a day time talk show. not that you would believe it :2 cents:

Grapesoda 02-26-2018 07:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22212709)
Show me a single post I've made about Trump that was made up.. The simple fact that you think everything about Trump is made up shows you've gone over the edge and no one takes you seriously.

Wake up..
I have no idea .I don't have trump fascination like you do... don't really care to be honest.

I cant see that trump has fucked anything up other than you guys delicate disposition and the media will NEVER allow us to find the truth...

I really have better stuff to do that plow my nose up trumps ass...don't care if you take ne seriously of not... I want the schools kids to stop being murdered.

can ya send a few letters? school children lives are more important than any political mysteries. :(


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