As you point out gun free zones are not a solution, they could be a draw to shooters.

So no solution. Just as arming teachers. The people who do these mass shooting don't expect to come out alive. So at best you can limit the number killed. If your outdated 2nd Amendment Rights are still worth shedding lives. Then say so.

food isn't designed to kill people. Should you do that you would be liable for murder. So if a gun is designed to kill things, should people who design food to kill. Be tried for murder?

Where does school shooting happen regularly elsewhere in the world?

Of course, mass shooting happens elsewhere. Look up the list of countries, it should make you proud.

In Mexico gun control.

look Paul I apologize for my remarks concerning you mind.. it's very frustrating speaking to a cave man. and by this I refer to the fact that you are using outdated information to make your conclusions. I can point to a series of links to catch you up... however I doubt you'll even click them because it is easier to be ignorant.

and about god. Paul the opposite of love is not hate. the opposite of love is indifference. both love and hate are the very same coin.

you are without a doubt the one of most devout religious men I have come across. it's the focus of your mind and the thrust of your agenda: god/religion.

please do this with your self, and stop including me okay?

I am totally indifferent to religious and gods based around religions.

are you able to understand this?

all this weird shit and constant denials of life are not ever something that crosses my mind. okay?

PART 11

I was watching day time TV about 45 years ago... remember when TV had 3 channels and UHF? and TV daytime talk shows were somewhat intelligent and not press releases for one agenda or another? do you remember that?

I disremember which show, however the guest a phycologist stated that there would be a backlash in society for the blatant and obvious racism in the media. he stated that white kids were under tremendous pressure from society, being blamed for all the worlds problems and being told that your women hate you, and every day your are worthless...

I'm not sure where your mind is however I view placing the blames of society's failures on a to bunch of children to be cowardly in every regard and of low character... you may have your own opinion.

oh wait I never know what the fuck I'm talking about do I? hummmm.. what race are the schools shooters again.......????? look I can't keep walking in around weird conversations and lost logic circles with you, okay?

be well :thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh yeah but its the CIA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

In USA have too :1orglaugh

Not true.

The kid who did this shooting DID come out alive and snuck out with the students and left the scene. He was arrested shortly afterwards. He had NO intentions of dying.

And again...even IF the shooter is going to kill himself AFTERWARDS...they still came there to make a "statement" and kill a lot of people.

THAT is another reason they do NOT go to heavily armed areas and instead pick "gun-free zones".

What part of that can't you see? There is a reason these shooters pick places like schools, movie theaters, and churches.

Paul did you even know THIS happened in Nov. :
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/te...ion/index.html

That was an armed citizen STOPPING a madman from killing even more people.

Those stories aren't talked about much because they don't fit the narrative that is being pushed out.

As for the 2nd Amendment...here in the U.S. we have something called FREEDOM. And the more power govt. has over you, the less FREEDOM you have.

Having said that...I will repeat what I have said over and over and over: IF the people of the United States wish to allow the govt. to disarm all of us, then we should have Congress repeal the 2nd Amendment.
End of the argument on "gun control".

Will that stop crazy people from mass killing? Nope.
Bombs, vehicles, poison...people were killing other people in droves long before guns even existed.

Will it slow it down if magically ALL guns were gone? Yeah.
And so will hardening up the schools security.

yep a bunch of gun owners who shot paper targets, in a dark movie theater, with smoke grenades . What could happen in that scenario. Trained police miss the target 50 percent of the time. Its this myth because you have a gun your james bond, if you arent trained under these situations constantly, you are really kidding yourself.

Tony why are you so hellbent on having govt. control you?

Nobody said anything about people being "James Bond"...so that's not even a "myth", just something you're making up in your mind.
And why do you assume the shooter is "James Bond"? Nobody in that scenario has shot at people before (unless there is a soldier in the scenario).

Let me ask YOU one question...I doubt you'll answer it: Would YOU rather have a gun on you if you and your wife were out somewhere and a crazy man started shooting at you? Or would you rather just let him kill you and your wife and have no chance to even try to fight back?

Which one Tony?

it kept the guy out, stop playing make believe and get that email about guarding the schools to your congressman

wtf the is wrong with you? I'm trying get this conversation going in the public mind. if you want to state here publicly that the people of the United States of American can not work together and figure this shit out in a six weeks, I disagree. you are entitled to your opinion.

now you state right here, right fucking now, right now in public... what will change with another six weeks of gun regulation debate to keep kids from getting killed....in six weeks -- I'm waiting..... :2 cents:

Tony can answer for himself but I will chime in to say OF COURSE I would want to have a gun on me...IF SOMEONE WAS SHOOTING AT ME.

But here's a MAJOR problem Robbie: States in this country have been passing laws called 'Stand Your Ground'. Meaning, if you FEEL like you are being threatened - by a look, some bad words, the color of someone's skin - then you can pull out your weapon and blow the fucker away. Then, on the stand in Court you say, "But Your Honor I felt threatened!"

Case dismissed.

So having all these armed citizens walking around, sometimes with weapons on their hips like they are some kind of cowboy and it's 1856, does not make me feel safe.

I feel safer in fucking Europe than I do in the US. At least if I get in a confrontation there (not that I ever do) at least I don't have to worry about some asshole cowboy pulling his piece on me.

Bullshit.
Courts don't do that. They will arrest the person and they will take it to court. And then the person who used a "Stand Your Ground" defense has to prove that they were actually in danger.

You make it out like Judges just send them along their way. Bullshit.

Further reality check for you: If I had a carry permit and owned a handgun...I could CARE LESS if there is a "Stand Your Ground" law or not. If somebody were to attack me or my family...I would shoot them. Pretty simple.

You just said you would rather have a gun to protect your wife...but yet you want to take them AWAY from other people. :(

WTF? Perfect example of "elitism".
You think you are better than other people and should be more privileged...and you don't even realize that you feel that way.

Here's another one for you: Let's say you have a young daughter in her mid 20's.

A man starts coming at her with evil intentions in a deserted parking lot.

Do you want her to have a loaded gun in her purse or would you rather her be unarmed and no chance at all to protect herself?

We both know the answer to that.

Look, I'm not "pro-gun". But I AM pro-constitution.

The older I get the more I realize that Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and the rest of the Founding Fathers were fucking visionary's and geniuses.

They created a Constitution on which EVERYTHING about the U.S. is built on.

And they included a way to CHANGE it by Amendment.

IF we want to disarm ourselves...including YOU and any member of your family...then Congress needs to change the Constitution and repeal the 2nd Amendment.

ANYTHING else is illegal and un-American.

They are directly related. Current gun regulations allow eighteen year old boys to purchase AR-15 "assault weapons" which are used to kill children in schools.

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Brags he has a big uncut dick then doesn't show it because he has a small uncut dick

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/ameri...ics/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.7dd22b3ea509

Does gun control work? What the US can learn from Australia - Business Insider

Switzerland gun laws: Why the country has fewer gun deaths than the US - Business Insider

I keep asking you to explain what you have out about quantum physics. Please help me on this. I also say I don't believe in the god theory.

Blaming the kids who do these shootings is missing the point. Blame the politicians.
be well :thumbsup

I think the video you showed proved my point. After the shooters had killed 20 people.

Picking individual stories doesn't prove a point. It's the overall evidence that does.

Are you arguing that the Government should remove all controls over you? Or just some and why?

I don't ever think of crazies attacking me and my wife.

Hi Robbie, where did you get that ?

He used misleading figures.

Countries Compared by Crime > Violent crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com

Also Social media post says U.K. has far higher violent crime rate than U.S. does | PolitiFact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e#By_ country

that make sense Richard, if he cant pick up the AR-15, the kid will just change his mind!

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not sure what you are on about, google will give you all the info anything you need!

I think he got that a Kroger's, I saw a few on the shelves the other day :2 cents:

This shows all the absurd of gun trafficking in my country. These things are real nice and I would buy them for a collection... but I can't! I'll take up to few years in prison for having one, because they are illegal... who knows if I will kill someone with them. So I can't buy them here, but I can legally buy this:

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this:

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this:

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this:

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this:

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Even online. For cicatrices from 5 to about 12 mm caliber @ your desire (do I want to hunt at an elephant? in Russia?) With night vision and sniper equipment - what for a sane person will need that? But I can't buy this:

http://www.thespecialistsltd.com/fil...20Revolver.jpg

That's how the arm law works in my magic country :)

out here in cally I spent a day in 'gun' school then I think it took a week to get the gun... if I wanted to fuck up a school I don't I would mind the wait that much

Trafficked guns are always in hands of criminals. It's the people who commit these atrocities that we are discussing. The people who buy their guns legally for an illegal act.

Dear Pauly

if we are discussing the people that commit these atrocities why is the subject 'gun control'?

confused in Idaho -gs

Paul. I can go into any arm shop or make an order via the Internet an have a semi-automatic version of AK-47 on the next day, but I can't buy Colt 1860 for my collection because it's illegal. WTF?

Only gun control and NKVD(CIA) will save homeland)))
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I was googling for info and an article came up with that. The site was: Home | Daily Mail Online

Is that a credible source in England? I have no clue.

No.

A bit like asking Brietbart if Hillary is a crook.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I'll explain it to you. Removing guns from the ownership of the general public is the only way to reduce these killings.

Short-term you can arm teachers have military style guards, etc. But it will either cost a fortune or be ineffective. A shooter will move to another public venue.

I know the sale of guns in the US is too lax.

the USA pass assault riles out to 18 year old kids every day and your logic is totally fucked up. apples in a pie do NOT make all pies apple plies okay? do you get it? stop saying stupid shit okay? guard the schools then you can say stupid shit all day long :thumbsup BTW it is people like you saying stupid shit like you that is killing kids. wtf is wrong with you?

there are probably some good night course in your area on logical thinking?:thumbsup

We can defend ourselves against the best-equipped army in the world. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh







Armed with our over the counter guns. May I remind you of Waco? A tragedy that only happened because a paranoid nutcase and his followers were allowed to buy guns. Don't blame the FBI or police. The people should never have been armed to the teeth and Koresh should have responded to the warrant.

paul wtf is wrong with you? I can't just believe it some times.. so this is how life is in Paul land: guns get outlawed and the guns people have suddenly disappear of the middle of the night and all the fucked up get kids get suddenly cured of mental illness, while the guns are diapering..

did I finally make some sense of your weird ramblings? man you are fucked up... maybe rochard will let you hit some night classes with him?

Paul that is the price of a free society. just like we have to let Muslims run around and rape women. :2 cents:

little Tanner who suffers from depression because his dad works too much and he cant find a girl to hump on because he's a dork so he pops some anti-depressants after an attention whoring "suicide" threat episode... then shoots up a school, church or movie theater... fuck him and his mental shit, kill em. he a spoiled bitch and his problems aint shit compared to the real centuries of manufactured mental illness developed by elite whites and dumped into the ghettos of america.