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TrafficTitan 03-06-2018 02:07 PM

The problem is that specific keywords that clearly would return porn sites don't anymore. Google has specifically said it's algorithm doesn't target specific sites or keywords. This is demonstrably false. When people search for "porn" they want fucking porn not a news article about porn. Google has done something specific for that query so it's IMPOSSIBLE for porn sites to rank. This list has been rapidly expanding. Also if it porn sites rank they only rank for the top 10 results. Everything else is mainstream. Example: "porn videos" after page 1 it's all BS news articles. I've had one of my sites have it's brand mainstreamed and it says "porn" clearly in the brand. Somebody had to do this on purpose, it's not algorithmic. This is censorship and abuse of a monopoly.

Both "sex" and "porn" have been mainstreamed. I have seen a bunch of others I won't list here.

Also ironically the more popular a pornstar is the less likely you are to find porn sites when u search for their name.

TrafficTitan 03-06-2018 02:10 PM

Also google is not infallible in the courts. The recently lost to Getty images over basically the same thing that perfect 10 was complaining about.

Klen 03-06-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TrafficTitan (Post 22233152)
The problem is that specific keywords that clearly would return porn sites don't anymore. Google has specifically said it's algorithm doesn't target specific sites or keywords. This is demonstrably false. When people search for "porn" they want fucking porn not a news article about porn. Google has done something specific for that query so it's IMPOSSIBLE for porn sites to rank. This list has been rapidly expanding. Also if it porn sites rank they only rank for the top 10 results. Everything else is mainstream. Example: "porn videos" after page 1 it's all BS news articles. I've had one of my sites have it's brand mainstreamed and it says "porn" clearly in the brand. Somebody had to do this on purpose, it's not algorithmic. This is censorship and abuse of a monopoly.

Both "sex" and "porn" have been mainstreamed. I have seen a bunch of others I won't list here.

Also ironically the more popular a pornstar is the less likely you are to find porn sites when u search for their name.

They said it is because such words can have "other" meaning beside porn, so that is why they giving mainstream results. But that doesnt have much logic, if someone types "sex" i doubt he is looking for books about healthy sex lol

windstorm 03-06-2018 02:33 PM

Maybe the new generations will start to smarten up and get fed up by Google's despotic behavior.

Unfortunately 90% of users are dumb and don't realize there is more than Google around. What some webmasters above don't understand is that so many people don't even know there is another search engine besides Google. So the statement that users have a choice is bullshit.

There are so many people that type in google the name of a website although they could go directly to it.

I have a unique domain name, created many years ago with great traffic. Let's call it: keyword78. After many years of being first place for the search "keyword 78", which was clearly a bookmark search, now my site is nowhere. I can only rank with keyword78.

Meanwhile the results for keyword 78 are completely random and unrelated. How did Google improve the searches by doing that? For me, Google is worse than ever. And looks like they still want to become even more evil :disgust

oppoten 03-06-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by windstorm (Post 22233197)
Maybe the new generations will start to smarten up and get fed up by Google's despotic behavior.

They will, I'm sure of it.

Facebook is tanking among young people. Google is just another head of the same beast.

Paul Markham 03-07-2018 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 22232849)
part of the point your missing there though Paul is that G is NOT looking after the surfer if they dont even deliver relevant results.

There are a lot of times I will search a porn girls name and the top sites when I click dont even have the name on the page. How I land there I have no idea. Why G would do that I have no idea other than because they could some how be getting paid for it.

Give me the names of some porn girls so we can check.

Paul Markham 03-07-2018 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by windstorm (Post 22233119)
Surfers love torrents too, but they've been demoted pretty much by Google. There are many other examples of Google acting on purpose, regardless of how much users loved it.

What if tomorrow Google blasts all porn because they don't like it? Will the user satisfaction still be met? They have already removed shitload of pure adult keywords.

Example: search for "black man sex with a white woman" and you will see mainly non adult results. How is the user satisfaction met? First result for me is this:

Married White Women Discreetly Having Sex With Black Men - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_34H9EvH0

So if Youtube has great time on site, bounce rate etc., Google decided to show it first for adult key? :1orglaugh

You should check that video btw, see how fucked up Google algo is. Or maybe they made it on purpose? Think about it and stop sucking dick of Google.

If you search for a keyword and add torrents it will come up.

Search interracial porn videos.

Paul Markham 03-07-2018 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by windstorm (Post 22233197)
Maybe the new generations will start to smarten up and get fed up by Google's despotic behavior.

Unfortunately 90% of users are dumb and don't realize there is more than Google around. What some webmasters above don't understand is that so many people don't even know there is another search engine besides Google. So the statement that users have a choice is bullshit.

There are so many people that type in google the name of a website although they could go directly to it.

I have a unique domain name, created many years ago with great traffic. Let's call it: keyword78. After many years of being first place for the search "keyword 78", which was clearly a bookmark search, now my site is nowhere. I can only rank with keyword78.

Meanwhile the results for keyword 78 are completely random and unrelated. How did Google improve the searches by doing that? For me, Google is worse than ever. And looks like they still want to become even more evil :disgust

What was the actual content like of keyword78.com?

I don't know how many searches are for adult but I imagine it is a lot. So it would be madness for Google to not show porn when the relevant terms are used. You lot are just complaining your site isn't scoring as high as it used to.

Get with the program and realise Google has changed and you have to change with it. Make tours more interesting, show lots of preview videos, behind the scenes, interviews, etc. And stop relying on keywords and domain names, you've had it far too easy for too long.

mikeworks 03-07-2018 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22233705)
Make tours more interesting, show lots of preview videos, behind the scenes, interviews, etc. And stop relying on keywords and domain names, you've had it far too easy for too long.

I wish your computer would pack in for a while so interesting threads don't get diluted with your messages.

Back to the subject.

Biggest site in niche:
- does not trade traffic
- has few backlinks
- has higher time on site than it's niche competitors

That site used to be smaller than windstorm and friends sites (when it traded traffic), it was struggling to survive, but since changes took off traffic wise and continues it's upward direction.

So take from that what you will.

windstorm 03-07-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22233705)
What was the actual content like of keyword78.com?

I don't know how many searches are for adult but I imagine it is a lot. So it would be madness for Google to not show porn when the relevant terms are used. You lot are just complaining your site isn't scoring as high as it used to.

Get with the program and realise Google has changed and you have to change with it. Make tours more interesting, show lots of preview videos, behind the scenes, interviews, etc. And stop relying on keywords and domain names, you've had it far too easy for too long.

Amateur cuckold niche (free site). When people search for that specific domain, it is clear what they want. But do you know what Google shows as first result? Page 78 of xhamster :1orglaugh

And yes, Google can afford to shit on adult results. I've seen dozens of malware websites ranking fine for many months in adult keys. When you have over 90% market share, you can shit on users perfectly fine. They aren't going to shift in millions to Bing or whatever.

I've been on first page for cuckold/interracial terms for quite a while, I have no problem that I don't score higher than before, but at least show me relevant results. When I see Google Books and reddit on 2d page, then clearly these are shit results.

When you put the big tubes and then Google Books in top 20 results, what am I supposed to do? Clearly big tubes cannot be outranked.

pornguy 03-07-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22233703)
Give me the names of some porn girls so we can check.

I know its hard to catch on but this does not always happen and I dont happen to have a list on the side of my desk top for you. ( What was I thinking. need a Paul Google list )

TrafficTitan 03-11-2018 11:43 AM

I hope everyone enjoyed the last update over the weekend. It was brutal. Lots of stuff got mainstreamed hard. Big sites are being favored even more.

sixxxthsense 03-13-2018 06:58 PM

Maybe a time for an adult only SE?
 
Google has been getting worse and worse as an SE. They have shifted their focus elsewhere, this is clearly obvious.

Here is a million dollar idea, someone make an adult site only SE :)


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