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sarettah 03-19-2018 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22240474)
I thought Butler changed his ways..

He definitely had seemed to be trying from what I could see.

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OneHungLo 03-19-2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22240470)
TheDynasty is Bhala Sada aka DVTimes right

You know it's not Bald Salad. You know they dynasty is always in your anti-Trump threads. I guarantee you that if any Trump supporters here got that domain it would be turned over for free. Figures a hillbot has it :1orglaugh

sarettah 03-19-2018 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22240477)
You know it's not Bald Salad. You know they dynasty is always in your anti-Trump threads. I guarantee you that if any Trump supporters here got that domain it would be turned over for free. Figures a hillbot has it :1orglaugh

Dude, do you have to turn everything into political crap?

Sheez.

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2MuchMark 03-19-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22240467)
I'm genuinely sorry to hear that happened to you, Mark. If I had your domain I would have given it back to you for free.. but I must note that it's your fellow Trump hating leftist that did you in.

Your boy Trump is a///

And I know you would. And thanks.

2MuchMark 03-19-2018 06:19 PM

Wow! Check out the email he just sent to Jen:

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On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Mark D <[email protected]> wrote:

Listen i emailed admin@ livecamnetwork.com knowing that mark would be the admin not jess don't know what you are talking about domain had been expired for more than a day and you had 60+ days to re register it. Buy it back the only way you are going to get it.

I gave you the option to buy it back because yes i do care about other businesses thats why i didn't sell it to anybody else which i could for a lot more than i tell to give you.

Make the payment the domain is yours Period.
No where in the email exchange between him and Jen (Real name Tracy by the way, some of you have met her before), does she say my name.

"TheDynasty", already knew who I was when he acquired my domain.

Cool guy.

TheDynasty: I just emailed you a link to this thread. Please post here and tell me and everyone else here why you won't give me my domain name.

Bladewire 03-19-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22240483)
Wow! Check out the email he just sent to Jen:



No where in the email exchange between him and Jen (Real name Tracy by the way, some of you have met her before), does she say my name.

"TheDynasty", already knew who I was when he acquired my domain.

Cool guy.

TheDynasty: I just emailed you a link to this thread. Please post here and tell me and everyone else here why you won't give me my domain name.

So he's Chris Butler then? If not, what's his name? What's the domain he's holding hostage?

OneHungLo 03-19-2018 06:48 PM

Butler you're a piece of shit!!

Acepimp 03-19-2018 06:51 PM

What a scumbag. I can see on NameSilo that it's up for auction.

Mark, you have the .com, right? I'd offer $100. If he won't take that I'd tell this clown to eat shit & hire some script kiddies in Belarus to DDoS his sites.

:pimp

OneHungLo 03-19-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22240499)
What a scumbag. I can see on NameSilo that it's up for auction.

Mark, you have the .com, right? I'd offer $100. If he won't take that I'd tell this clown to eat shit & hire some script kiddies in Belarus to DDoS his sites.

:pimp

Yup, don't pay him shit Mark! That piece of shit should have been run out of here years ago. Harmon is rolling in his GFY grave.

Mr Pheer 03-19-2018 07:24 PM

He should raise the price to $5000

Bladewire 03-19-2018 07:29 PM

Fuck you

onwebcam 03-19-2018 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22240420)
If I had grabbed one of your domains, I'd donate it to Trump just to piss you off.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

onwebcam 03-19-2018 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22240465)
Meh! I've waited long enough.


Dear, TheDynasty.

On March 15th you contacted one of my employees offering to sell her one of my domains that I had let expire.

During that time you offered her a "deal", then set a new price at $2500 on March 16th, then asked her to "make an offer", etc.

This is not cool, TheDynasty. The Domain that you bought, is LiveCamNetwork.net. The name LiveCamNetwork has been associated with me from as early as 1999. It's my brand, it's my soul, it's my big throbbing cock.

It is completely my fault that I let the domain expire, and I am asking you now nicely to please give it back to me. While this domain may now be your "legal" property, it still isn't yours as far as I am concerned. You can have all the laughing and bragging rights you want after this - my pleasure.

No matter who I might disagree with on GFY about anything, one thing I would never do is squat on someone's domain and attempt to hold it for ransom or sell it to one of their employees (WTF?). A domain name, even though its small, is the center of anyone's business idea. It's what they base their business on, brand, even graphics and web design.

You are in the adult business, I am in the adult business. I do business with a few other companies and individuals here, and so do you. I attend a trade show here and there as I'm sure you do too. Wouldn't it be nice to run into each other, shoot the shit and trade cards over a beer one day? If you're business is domains, shit I could even send business your way, but not if you're going to fuck me over.

Please reply here and let me know what you decide.

Since you haven't shown up in this thread yet I'll assume you missed it. However, my employee did confirm you are on GFY, and since I now have your email address, I'll send you a link to make sure you don't miss it.

Thanks and have a nice day.

2MuchMark.

Mark I hate to break it to you but those 3 words in any sequence are generic terms. So not much recourse. He should however give you a better price :) Because the .info .biz etc are available so you're pretty much the only customer...

And on a side note, The Dynasty is a liberal so...What do you expect?

Side note 2. Use a monitoring service?
Side note 3 consolidate your domains into one account, make sure whois is up to date and check often?

Sly 03-19-2018 08:26 PM

Mark check this out for future uses: https://www.efty.com/

Bladewire 03-19-2018 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22240531)
Mark I hate to break it to you but those 3 words in any sequence are generic terms. So not much recourse. He should however give you a better price :) Because the .info .biz etc are available so you're pretty much the only customer...

And on a side note, The Dynasty is a liberal so...What do you expect?

Side note 2. Use a monitoring service?
Side note 3 consolidate your domains into one account, make sure whois is up to date and check often?

Wow you're really fucked in the head to make every single topic political. Seriously drop it dude fuck

Acepimp 03-19-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22240559)
Wow you're really fucked in the head to make every single topic political. Seriously drop it dude fuck

Socialists Are Cheaters, Says New Study

Liberals Are Meaner, Cheaper, More Willing To Steal Than Conservatives

Surprise! Conservatives are more generous than liberals

FACTS ARE FACTS.

:1orglaugh

Mr Pheer 03-19-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22240514)
Fuck you

See sig.

NALEM 03-19-2018 09:56 PM

While I can understand the frustration Mark, the attempt to shame a fellow GFY member who appears to have legally obtained the domain is in poor taste. Every seller has the right to set his or her price. At one point I controlled over 4000 names, and lost a few gems, which I had to buy back or let go. That forced me to organize everything better, so it wouldn't ever happen again.

Decide how important the domain is to you. Make a reasonable counter offer, or consider asking if installments are available. Spread out the payments over 6-12-18 months, and once its paid up, it can be transferred back to you.

Either way, good luck to both parties.

2MuchMark 03-19-2018 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22240420)
If I had grabbed one of your domains, I'd donate it to Trump just to piss you off.

Haha... I wouldn't do that, but I would donate a few bucks to a Libbie campaign in your name. :)


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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22240467)
I'm genuinely sorry to hear that happened to you, Mark.

No worries!

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22240467)
. but I must note that it's your fellow Trump hating leftist that did you in.

D'oh!!


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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22240474)
I thought Butler changed his ways..

Who?

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22240494)
So he's Chris Butler then? If not, what's his name? What's the domain he's holding hostage?

LiveCamNetwork.net


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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22240499)
What a scumbag. I can see on NameSilo that it's up for auction.

Mark, you have the .com, right? I'd offer $100. If he won't take that I'd tell this clown to eat shit & hire some script kiddies in Belarus to DDoS his sites.

:pimp

Nah, I'm not the DDoS type.

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22240531)
Mark I hate to break it to you but those 3 words in any sequence are generic terms. So not much recourse.


Yes I know that.


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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22240531)
He should however give you a better price :) Because the .info .biz etc are available so you're pretty much the only customer...

It's not the money, it's the point. There are always scumbags in any industry but this is the first time I think I have actually "met" one who is actually a part of the adult community (5000 posts on GFY), and that would still go out of their way to fuck someone over.

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22240531)
And on a side note, The Dynasty is a liberal so...What do you expect?

My brother actually bought me a Trump for President T-shirt, did you know that? Never wore it.... but I still have it.... hmmm...


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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22240531)
Side note 2. Use a monitoring service?
Side note 3 consolidate your domains into one account, make sure whois is up to date and check often?

All good advice.

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 22240547)
Mark check this out for future uses: https://www.efty.com/

Thanks Sly, I will.


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Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 22240571)
While I can understand the frustration Mark, the attempt to shame a fellow GFY member who appears to have legally obtained the domain is in poor taste.

Hi Nalem, long time no speak. But I don't really care. If someone tried to take credit for your work or ideas, or take advantage of you when you weren't looking, you would be pissed off too I'm sure.


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Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 22240571)
Every seller has the right to set his or her price.

Absolutely true. If you wanted the name Nalem.com and someone else had it before you, they should fetch a fair price for their intellectual property.

Buf if you had the name Nalem.com already and fell asleep at the wheel, and someone else in your industry grabbed it away from you and then dangled it in front of your face, you'd think they were pretty shitty I bet.

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Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 22240571)
At one point I controlled over 4000 names, and lost a few gems, which I had to buy back or let go. That forced me to organize everything better, so it wouldn't ever happen again.

That is good advice.

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Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 22240571)
Decide how important the domain is to you. Make a reasonable counter offer, or consider asking if installments are available. Spread out the payments over 6-12-18 months, and once its paid up, it can be transferred back to you.
.

Thanks but no thanks.

Let's Clarify: TheDynasty bought a domain name associated with my brand, and attempted to sell it back at a huge profit. Jen/Tracy emailed him a few times asking him to be cool about this and to give it back to us, but he refused.

Tonight I emailed him the link to this thread. He so far hasn't engaged me in email or engaged me here. He hasn't.

Everyone: Protect your domains, beware of TheDynasty.

JuicyBunny 03-19-2018 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22240408)
am I the only one that uses auto renew?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Paul Markham 03-20-2018 04:29 AM

"Of course, he is within his right to do so."

You said it all there. All's fair in love war and business, so long as it's legal. Blame yourself for losing the domain.

Bladewire 03-20-2018 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22240636)
"Of course, he is within his right to do so."

You said it all there. All's fair in love war and business, so long as it's legal. Blame yourself for losing the domain.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The guy doing this is just seeing the beginning of the negative reactions, and actions, he will receive. He's holding the domain ransom for more reasons than money, he feels powerless and holding the domain makes him feel powerful. He doesn't realize how more powerful and how good he'll feel giving the domain back for a small profit of $250.

He needs to just sell the domain back for $250 and have lesson learned for Mark, this way Chris (TheDynasty) will come ahead as being smart & gracious. If he drags this out and let's it fester it's only going to get worse for him.

MrBottomTooth 03-20-2018 05:18 AM

A couple hundred bucks would be fair. Come on, do the right thing and don't be a slimeball.

ianmoone332000 03-20-2018 05:20 AM

We can argue whether its legally acceptable etc but it all comes down to decency. We all know people in life whos greed for money comes before anything else. Someone i spoke to on here i got to know on here couldnt renew 4 domains cause he was down on his luck. He offered to transfer the domains over to me if i paid the renewal. These were great aged domains that would have easily made a few thousand dollars. I told him to keep the domains and payed for them. He gave me the money back a month later. And no it was not that scammer thebutcher, it was someone i trusted 100% and knew he would have transferred the domains over. Moral of the story is its your decency on the line

Brian mike 03-20-2018 06:01 AM

You been Warned !!! Same as i did ! Don't Deal with Chris no mather what LOL
 
WOW theDynasty :1orglaugh

He is a little Fucking Bitch AND SCAMMER
I have been WARNED and did not listen.... Got bite too :1orglaugh

Mark Don't give a fucking penny to this Snake fuck.

FUCK you chris AKA TheDynasty The Broke Ass bitch.

OneHungLo 03-20-2018 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22240682)
WOW theDynasty :1orglaugh

He is a little Fucking Bitch AND SCAMMER
I have been WARNED and did not listen.... Got bite too :1orglaugh

Mark Don't give a fucking penny to this Snake fuck.

FUCK you chris AKA TheDynasty The Broke Ass bitch.

WOW how did he scam you?

2MuchMark 03-20-2018 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22240636)
"Of course, he is within his right to do so."

You said it all there. All's fair in love war and business, so long as it's legal. Blame yourself for losing the domain.

That's right Paul - the point of my OP is to help others not to lose their domains, and to remind people that even in good communities, there are always fucking scumbags lurking about.


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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 22240667)
A couple hundred bucks would be fair. Come on, do the right thing and don't be a slimeball.

Let me see...hmm...um, NOPE! He thought he was being a smart business person trying to ransom $2500 out of my employee? We now hopefully this stupid stunt of his will cost him some lost business instead.

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22240668)
We can argue whether its legally acceptable etc but it all comes down to decency.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22240682)
WOW theDynasty :1orglaugh

He is a little Fucking Bitch AND SCAMMER
I have been WARNED and did not listen.... Got bite too :1orglaugh

Mark Don't give a fucking penny to this Snake fuck.

FUCK you chris AKA TheDynasty The Broke Ass bitch.


Quoted for truth.

onwebcam 03-20-2018 06:28 AM

wrong thread

MrBottomTooth 03-20-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 22240667)
A couple hundred bucks would be fair. Come on, do the right thing and don't be a slimeball.

Just to be clear I was calling him a slimeball, not you Mark. I can see why you wouldn't want to pay him a dime.

blackmonsters 03-20-2018 06:58 AM

You don't like the price; otherwise you'd be happy to get it back.

:2 cents:

RandyRandy 03-20-2018 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22240332)

Of course, he is within his right to do so. But also of course, he's a fucking scumbag.

A few observations:

1. There's a big difference between a scammer and a scumbag.

2. If you're certain the domain flipper is on GFY, maybe calling him/her a scamming scumbag is not the best negotiation tactic.

3. Do you think your incessant political rants made you a target? Don't get me wrong. You're entitled to post your opinions on US politics all day long. Just like the scamming scumbag is allowed to buy an expired domain hoping for a big payday.

2MuchMark 03-20-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 22240701)
Just to be clear I was calling him a slimeball, not you Mark. I can see why you wouldn't want to pay him a dime.

No problem MBT. ;)

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22240706)
You don't like the price; otherwise you'd be happy to get it back.

:2 cents:

If he would say "Hey Mark I picked up your domain for $10. Let me give it to you". I would turn around and paypal him a nice bonus for his coolness that would have been more than he expected.


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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 22240717)
A few observations:

1. There's a big difference between a scammer and a scumbag.

2. If you're certain the domain flipper is on GFY, maybe calling him/her a scamming scumbag is not the best negotiation tactic.

You're right except for the fact that I'm not negotiating with him. TheDynasty had his chance, and didn't take it. He can go fuck himself.


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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 22240717)
3. Do you think your incessant political rants made you a target?

Yes of course it would, but that's too bad, for them. For me personally, I don't decide whether or not to do business with someone based on political or other opinions. I care more about the basics such as value for the money, after-sales support, etc.

I am a huge dickhead on GFY especially when it comes to politics - and so are many others in my opinion. However talking to people in person, or by skype or email, is completely different. I DESTROY Poor Acepimp in Trump threads, but I PM'ed him and posted a love-letter in another thread to let him know.

However, I get what you're saying...

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 22240717)
Don't get me wrong. You're entitled to post your opinions on US politics all day long. Just like the scamming scumbag is allowed to buy an expired domain hoping for a big payday.

Your right but to me, this crosses the line.

Peace.

7k USD 03-20-2018 07:47 AM

Give him the name back, kiss and make up. Cam Live for GFY. Good luck Bro's.

CaptainHowdy 03-20-2018 08:35 AM

Too late sig spot ...

bns666 03-20-2018 09:57 AM

super premium domain name in question indeed :)

brassmonkey 03-20-2018 10:04 AM

the butler did it!! LOL!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

SuckOnThis 03-20-2018 10:04 AM

To bad you didnt trademark the name, you would have a cybersquatting case.

directfiesta 03-20-2018 10:15 AM

Just pay up ... not worth the aggravation....

I did a thread a few months ago when I wanted to transer an important domain from "Domain System Notices" to Namecheap.

As we all know, there are no fees to pay to the outgoing registrar... But "Domain System Notices" were asking $75.00 US to process the demand . "Domain System Notices" is a reseller of Joker , tried with them to clear up : no answer .

I paid, kept that major domain of a mainstream project ( CMS: condo management system ) and turned the page .

Just saying.... :2 cents:

Speigelau 03-20-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22240844)
Just pay up ... not worth the aggravation....

I did a thread a few months ago when I wanted to transer an important domain from "Domain System Notices" to Namecheap.

As we all know, there are no fees to pay to the outgoing registrar... But "Domain System Notices" were asking $75.00 US to process the demand . "Domain System Notices" is a reseller of Joker , tried with them to clear up : no answer .

I paid, kept that major domain of a mainstream project ( CMS: condo management system ) and turned the page .

Just saying.... :2 cents:

So you think he should pay $2500 for the .net extension of his main site?

blackmonsters 03-20-2018 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22240720)

If he would say "Hey Mark I picked up your domain for $10. Let me give it to you". I would turn around and paypal him a nice bonus for his coolness that would have been more than he expected.

I might believe in the 'nice bonus" if it had ever happened in life for something I sold.

:2 cents:


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