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adultforum 03-21-2018 07:40 AM
"Withholding someone's domain name is like stealing, or at least, kicking someone when they are down."
Once you let the domain expire is not yours anymore. Anyone who register it, becomes the new owner. If you want that domain back, pay for it, otherwise let it go.
As much as i would like to be on your side, this time I cannot do it. We all lost at least a gem during our adult game. Does this makes the new owner a thief? Definitely NO. We should learn our lesson and be more cautious in the future.
BTW: if you have a trademark on that name, that's a completely different story.

2MuchMark 03-21-2018 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22241449)
Seems like a lot of frustration and time is going into something that wasn't worth 5 seconds of your time to put on auto-renew.
Perhaps, but there is another reason: Principal, and warnings to others to protect their property.

I could buy the domain back from him at his new price of $1500, but posting about it and warning others has more value I think.

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22241449)
How much was the domain bringing in? Is the time you're wasting on it worth it?
The domain was on a server that was running a few small programs and housekeeping scripts. When the domain disappeared things kept running because it just fell back to the IP address instead. We weren't promoting it - it was just up as a service to us.

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22241449)
Why not just move on, wait for him to drop the domain and then buy it back?
Already done! See post #92: where I said

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Anyway: I guess we can close this thread. I lost my domain to a dick. Shit happens. If you own domains of your own, PROTECT THEM. Don't lose any like I did.
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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22241449)
In the meantime, go put your important domains on auto-renewal!
Good advice for everyone reading this. And already done.

Cheers!

CoolMikey 03-21-2018 07:49 AM
This whole thread, your response: "please give it back to me" :1orglaugh
Way to mark (pun intended) yourself as a serious businessman, not! :1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 03-21-2018 08:32 AM
Unless we are talking pornhub.com then all bets are off. LOL

Tjeezers 03-21-2018 08:36 AM
This is Chris Butler we speak off, the identification was easy through affiliate account he is pushing

2MuchMark 03-21-2018 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tjeezers_Brokerbabe (Post 22241523)
This is Chris Butler we speak off, the identification was easy through affiliate account he is pushing
Thanks Brokerbabe!

Fat Panda 03-21-2018 09:49 AM
havent been to gfy in a week

just saw this thread

omg...ROFL :1orglaugh

without a doubt one of top ten dumbest gfy threads in history

op you let your domain expire. plain and fucking simple

you should be banned for calling this a scam

Tjeezers 03-21-2018 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22241571)
Thanks Brokerbabe!
Hello Mark.

To clarify what I did... I asked Sam from pantybay to look into the situation and to consider helping you cause that's what we are supposed to do in this industry. Sam made the call to help. I did nothing. I hope BTW you two get along a little. Ya both are nuts in the head in a weird way but ya share the same live cam passion.

Cheers

Bladewire 03-21-2018 01:39 PM
^^^ The first time I've ever seen this Romanian post not being hateful and bitchy. Good for you :thumbsup

Sam @ PantyBay is awesome!

Tjeezers... meh

2MuchMark 03-21-2018 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjeezers_Brokerbabe (Post 22241706)
Hello Mark.

To clarify what I did... I asked Sam from pantybay to look into the situation and to consider helping you cause that's what we are supposed to do in this industry. Sam made the call to help. I did nothing. I hope BTW you two get along a little. Ya both are nuts in the head in a weird way but ya share the same live cam passion.

Cheers
Thanks BrokerBabe! And of course thanks to Sam too (I talked to him earlier). You are good people.

But now that TheDynasty has his affiliate account turned off with you guys, he has setup a new affiliate account with Streamate. Oh well, good luck to him I suppose.

Mi$terMax 03-21-2018 02:42 PM
Always happy to help

Bladewire 03-21-2018 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22241731)
Thanks BrokerBabe! And of course thanks to Sam too (I talked to him earlier). You are good people.

But now that TheDynasty has his affiliate account turned off with you guys, he has setup a new affiliate account with Streamate. Oh well, good luck to him I suppose.
This Chris Butler guy clearly thrives off hate & negative energy.

File for copyright of your domain without the .com. You then show prior us with the .come going back almost 20 years. You get the copyright. Then get your .net back.

It's not that expensive just takes time. Meanwhile you forget about it while the wheels turn, and you win in the end :thumbsup

brassmonkey 03-21-2018 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22241571)
Thanks Brokerbabe!
you are fucking clueless!! i called it long fucking time ago :Oh crap i think its in my troll plugin thread. that was tears ago now

2MuchMark 03-21-2018 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22241760)
you are fucking clueless!! i called it long fucking time ago :Oh crap i think its in my troll plugin thread. that was tears ago now
You called it here thats for sure. As for your troll thread, I don't know what you mean.

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Originally Posted by Mi$terMax (Post 22241754)
Always happy to help
For you good sir:

https://media.giphy.com/media/WDUAcX8DQwVpK/giphy.gif

OneHungLo 03-21-2018 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by adultforum (Post 22241469)
"Withholding someone's domain name is like stealing, or at least, kicking someone when they are down."
Once you let the domain expire is not yours anymore. Anyone who register it, becomes the new owner. If you want that domain back, pay for it, otherwise let it go.
As much as i would like to be on your side, this time I cannot do it. We all lost at least a gem during our adult game. Does this makes the new owner a thief? Definitely NO. We should learn our lesson and be more cautious in the future.
BTW: if you have a trademark on that name, that's a completely different story.

Look, Butler didn't just stumble upon Mark's domain and buy it. He visited one of his sites and purposefully knew the domain was expiring. He waited carefully to the right moment, probably right before the auction ended, and place a bid and won it. Then he contacted him and tried to sell it.

It's lame. He and Mark were high fiving in their Trump bashing threads. He knows who Mark is. He knows Mark's sites. The guy's a 2 bit con :2 cents:

Bladewire 03-21-2018 03:49 PM
^^^ Truth

Tjeezers 03-21-2018 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22241760)
you are fucking clueless!! i called it long fucking time ago :Oh crap i think its in my troll plugin thread. that was tears ago now
Yes... I can remember. I recall to have replied to it with a thank you. It's hard to keep track of Chris and remind all his nicks.

NoWhErE 03-22-2018 06:17 AM
Why does the name Chris Butler ring a bell? What drama was he involved in?

CaptainHowdy 03-22-2018 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22241993)
Why does the name Chris Butler ring a bell? What drama was he involved in?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/7aa2...itemid=5271138

Speigelau 03-22-2018 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 22241993)
Why does the name Chris Butler ring a bell? What drama was he involved in?
Was he the one who kept going at it with Harmon? I seem to remember Harmon posting all the nicks this guy had and all the people he had scammed. I might be thinking of someone else though.

ianmoone332000 03-22-2018 01:30 PM
End of the day, if thedynasty wanted to do business with anyone now would they do it?

CaptainHowdy 03-22-2018 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22242195)
End of the day, if thedynasty wanted to do business with anyone now would they do it?
GFY can be very forgiving ...

marlboroack 03-22-2018 03:10 PM
Who was it

2MuchMark 03-22-2018 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22242195)
End of the day, if thedynasty wanted to do business with anyone now would they do it?
I would have.

If he had told me he had our domain and offered it back to me for pennies, I would have, and either thrown in a nice bonus and / or nice services and / or clients as a way of saying thank you.

But instead he tells me to pay-up, "or else I'll develop something on it" (Originally it was going to be a webcam review site). Fuck you.

One provider dropped him for it and now he's running Streamate on it. So much for developing - now he's deliberately trying to blur our brands.

"Legal"? Sure. Shitty? Absolutely. He shouldn't even be allowed to work in adult.

Speigelau 03-22-2018 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22242195)
End of the day, if thedynasty wanted to do business with anyone now would they do it?
I don't think he did anything wrong by picking up the dropped domain. I'd be more concerned about what people have accused of in the past, if indeed its Chris Butler.

I just don't understand why he was dumb enough to try and gouge a fellow gfyer for so much and then try to extort him by threatening to develop the domain. Curious why he isn't at least posting in this thread, maybe something could have been worked out.

Kittens 03-22-2018 05:10 PM
is not me, is only smellz

2MuchMark 03-22-2018 05:35 PM
Well if you didn't think he was a scumbag before, maybe this will change your mind:

http://www.livecamnetwork.com/gfypics/1.png

sarettah 03-22-2018 05:41 PM
It appears that livecamnetwork.net is re-directing to google right now.

Did streamate can him too?

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2MuchMark 03-22-2018 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242332)
It appears that livecamnetwork.net is re-directing to google right now.

Did streamate can him too?

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I'd love to think that but I'm guessing all the Streamate peeps are at the Phoenix Forum at the moment - I'd never expect them to take time away for something dumb like this... but fingers crossed anyway! :)

sarettah 03-22-2018 05:54 PM
Whois is showing an updated date of about 2 hours ago, so something changed. Did he have it regged out till 2020? Because it is showing a 2020 expire now.

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Domain Name: LIVECAMNETWORK.NET

Updated Date: 2018-03-22T21:01:46Z
Creation Date: 2018-01-10T23:38:32Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-01-10T23:38:32Z
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DirtyHarold 03-22-2018 05:55 PM
I use Bulkregister, everything on autorenew and I keep a $200 deposit there for in case my credit card can't be charged. I almost lost my most important domain last year, my credit card had expired but I totally forgot about it, checked into my Bulkregister account and that one domain was going to expire the next day after they had tried to charge my credit card 3 times... pew! Good luck with getting your domain back Mark.

sarettah 03-22-2018 06:05 PM
Interdasting, it has been changed to cambuilder contacts, which is what streamate requires for the cambuilder whitelabels I think. But it is re-directing to google.

I wonder what is up with that.

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Domain Name: livecamnetwork.net

Updated Date: 2018-03-22T07:00:00Z
Creation Date: 2018-01-10T07:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-01-10T07:00:00Z

Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Cambuilder Manager
Registrant Organization: ICF Technology, Inc
Registrant Street: PO Box 21508 98111 USA
Registrant City: Seattle
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98111
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.2063740374
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
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brassmonkey 03-22-2018 07:11 PM
sounds like it has been sold. :helpme:helpme you made a buyers thread :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :Oh crap:Oh crap

2MuchMark 03-22-2018 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242345)
Interdasting, it has been changed to cambuilder contacts, which is what streamate requires for the cambuilder whitelabels I think. But it is re-directing to google.

I wonder what is up with that.



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That's weird - I didn't know that this was a Streamate requirement. Is this only required for Cambuilder? Or is it required of all affiliates?

Bladewire 03-22-2018 07:32 PM
Like I said before my you need to copyright your domain without the.com and get the .net back via that route.

He feeds off negative energy and the more of this that goes up here on gfy the more he's going to to do stupid shit for attention.

candyflip 03-22-2018 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22240397)
First, there is no reason to get nasty. I did not call anyone stupid. I stated that I am a nice guy but draw the line at stupid, meaning that being TOO NICE is the same thing as being stupid.

I did not say that someone losing a domain was stupid.

I stated the facts as I know them and my opinion that someone doing what Mark described is NOT in my opinion, necessarily an asshole.

In the search you posted, one item seemed to be about what we are talking about (expired domains) and the link it went to is down, so I can not see what you are talking about.

It does not take much to keep a domain list organized in a spreadsheet or even a text file. I have at times had over 500 domains, right now I have about 100 or so, spread between 4 registrars.

I have never lost a domain because of an expiration. I check about once a month and renew anything coming up in the next 30 days. Right now I am not doing that because at the end of last year I had extra money so I renewed all my domain through May or June and I don't have to worry about it.

I would never depend on the registrar telling me the domain was going to expire. It is MY job to run my business properly.

nuff said.

Again, just my :2 cents:

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He eats cum and argues in the Internet. Sounds like a great life. I wouldn’t bother with him much more than to laugh at his misery.

sarettah 03-22-2018 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22242388)
That's weird - I didn't know that this was a Streamate requirement. Is this only required for Cambuilder? Or is it required of all affiliates?
This is from the FAQ on cambuilders https://cambuilder.com/app/#/faq

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Before you can start getting paid for a payout program other than the standalone Lifetime Revenue Share, you must transfer ownership of your domain to Cambuilder.

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2MuchMark 03-22-2018 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242400)
This is from the FAQ on cambuilders https://cambuilder.com/app/#/faq




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Interesting! I never knew that.

HairyChick 03-22-2018 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242400)
This is from the FAQ on cambuilders https://cambuilder.com/app/#/faq




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That in itself deserves a separate thread. You forget to renew, they grab it for themselves. You can't use other sponsors on that site. They control your ads and links.

Just doesn't seem Kosher.

As for the scammer, he's not scamming but is just looking to hurt you. He has and will make money doing it. Hiring a hacker sounds good but legally you could lose everything

Trademarks are wise. I did it and got money when the moron used my domain name dot org. He lost his sites, money and I didn't gloat, just said it was the price of dishonest business practices. He had a lot of sites like that including stolen content.

Years ago I used a service that notified me when someone used my images without permission. People don't change image names sometimes. I forget the name but it was about $100/year which aid for itself from bills I sent. Hosts and ISPs were happy to dump dishonest customers back then

Mr Pheer 03-22-2018 10:09 PM
I wonder if all the owners of the expired domains that I've bought cry like this.

I've let some really good domains expire and lost them to resellers. Only person I got mad at is myself, because it was ultimately my own fuckup. I havent seen a single one of those domains sell yet. They just sit there with ridiculous asking prices for years and I keep emailing them with my offer of a few hundred dollars for the very very few that I'd like to have back.

CurrentlySober 03-23-2018 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242345)
Interdasting, it has been changed to cambuilder contacts, which is what streamate requires for the cambuilder whitelabels I think. But it is re-directing to google.

I wonder what is up with that.
From the UK it redirects to nakedcams.net - Live Sex Chat, Sex Shows and Webcam Sex - Amateur Cams and Pornstars not google

Bladewire 03-23-2018 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22242504)
Interesting

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22242422)
I wonder if all the owners of the expired domains that I've bought cry like this.

I've let some really good domains expire and lost them to resellers. Only person I got mad at is myself, because it was ultimately my own fuckup. I havent seen a single one of those domains sell yet. They just sit there with ridiculous asking prices for years and I keep emailing them with my offer of a few hundred dollars for the very very few that I'd like to have back.
:thumbsup

Kittens 03-23-2018 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22242422)
I wonder if all the owners of the expired domains that I've bought cry like this.

I've let some really good domains expire and lost them to resellers. Only person I got mad at is myself, because it was ultimately my own fuckup. I havent seen a single one of those domains sell yet. They just sit there with ridiculous asking prices for years and I keep emailing them with my offer of a few hundred dollars for the very very few that I'd like to have back.
I just want to re-emphasis this.

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kittens (Post 22242643)
I just want to re-emphasis this.
correct.

Bladewire 03-23-2018 08:49 AM
^^ False

This case is about holding a domain ransom from someone you know in an online community and then competing with them and the same Market space with that domain that is the same as the .com version that's been registered for years.

Totally different from scooping up an expired domain from someone you don't know and trying to monetize it.

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22242659)
domain ransom
you clearly have no understanding of the word "ransom"

2MuchMark 03-23-2018 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22242422)
I wonder if all the owners of the expired domains that I've bought cry like this.

I've let some really good domains expire and lost them to resellers. Only person I got mad at is myself, because it was ultimately my own fuckup..
Hi Pheer,

I think maybe you missed my original post. I'm not crying (much) because I lost my domain. It was my mistake, and I'm sharing the info so others don't make the same mistake.

What I'm pissed off about, is that a member of the adult community bought my name, knowing it was mine. He tried to sell it to an employee of mine first and THEN tried to sell it to me, and then when I refused he threatened to compete against me in the market. << This is what I'm surprised at. On GFY we all bullshit each other and fight and swear and tell everyone's Moms to go fuck themselves but we all still do business together - not trick each other.

Peace.


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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22242659)
^^ False

This case is about holding a domain ransom from someone you know in an online community and then competing with them and the same Market space with that domain that is the same as the .com version that's been registered for years.

Totally different from scooping up an expired domain from someone you don't know and trying to monetize it.
EXACTLY. Thanks BW.

Bladewire 03-23-2018 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 22242663)
you clearly have no understanding of the word "ransom"
Yes I do $2,500 and you get your domain back or else. Don't be a dick an insult me just because you disagree don't try and twist facts and meanings.

You have no problem doing what Chris Butler did to fellow GFY members that's fine don't try and twist things just be a man about it.

You have no problem fucking over fellow GFY members we get it.

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22242665)
He tried to sell it to an employee of mine first and THEN tried to sell it to me, and then when I refused he threatened to compete against me in the market.
This is shitty. But certainly not a "scam".


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