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ianmoone332000 03-22-2018 01:30 PM
End of the day, if thedynasty wanted to do business with anyone now would they do it?

CaptainHowdy 03-22-2018 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22242195)
End of the day, if thedynasty wanted to do business with anyone now would they do it?
GFY can be very forgiving ...

marlboroack 03-22-2018 03:10 PM
Who was it

2MuchMark 03-22-2018 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22242195)
End of the day, if thedynasty wanted to do business with anyone now would they do it?
I would have.

If he had told me he had our domain and offered it back to me for pennies, I would have, and either thrown in a nice bonus and / or nice services and / or clients as a way of saying thank you.

But instead he tells me to pay-up, "or else I'll develop something on it" (Originally it was going to be a webcam review site). Fuck you.

One provider dropped him for it and now he's running Streamate on it. So much for developing - now he's deliberately trying to blur our brands.

"Legal"? Sure. Shitty? Absolutely. He shouldn't even be allowed to work in adult.

Speigelau 03-22-2018 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22242195)
End of the day, if thedynasty wanted to do business with anyone now would they do it?
I don't think he did anything wrong by picking up the dropped domain. I'd be more concerned about what people have accused of in the past, if indeed its Chris Butler.

I just don't understand why he was dumb enough to try and gouge a fellow gfyer for so much and then try to extort him by threatening to develop the domain. Curious why he isn't at least posting in this thread, maybe something could have been worked out.

Kittens 03-22-2018 05:10 PM
is not me, is only smellz

2MuchMark 03-22-2018 05:35 PM
Well if you didn't think he was a scumbag before, maybe this will change your mind:

http://www.livecamnetwork.com/gfypics/1.png

sarettah 03-22-2018 05:41 PM
It appears that livecamnetwork.net is re-directing to google right now.

Did streamate can him too?

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2MuchMark 03-22-2018 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242332)
It appears that livecamnetwork.net is re-directing to google right now.

Did streamate can him too?

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I'd love to think that but I'm guessing all the Streamate peeps are at the Phoenix Forum at the moment - I'd never expect them to take time away for something dumb like this... but fingers crossed anyway! :)

sarettah 03-22-2018 05:54 PM
Whois is showing an updated date of about 2 hours ago, so something changed. Did he have it regged out till 2020? Because it is showing a 2020 expire now.

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Domain Name: LIVECAMNETWORK.NET

Updated Date: 2018-03-22T21:01:46Z
Creation Date: 2018-01-10T23:38:32Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-01-10T23:38:32Z
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DirtyHarold 03-22-2018 05:55 PM
I use Bulkregister, everything on autorenew and I keep a $200 deposit there for in case my credit card can't be charged. I almost lost my most important domain last year, my credit card had expired but I totally forgot about it, checked into my Bulkregister account and that one domain was going to expire the next day after they had tried to charge my credit card 3 times... pew! Good luck with getting your domain back Mark.

sarettah 03-22-2018 06:05 PM
Interdasting, it has been changed to cambuilder contacts, which is what streamate requires for the cambuilder whitelabels I think. But it is re-directing to google.

I wonder what is up with that.

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Domain Name: livecamnetwork.net

Updated Date: 2018-03-22T07:00:00Z
Creation Date: 2018-01-10T07:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-01-10T07:00:00Z

Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Cambuilder Manager
Registrant Organization: ICF Technology, Inc
Registrant Street: PO Box 21508 98111 USA
Registrant City: Seattle
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98111
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.2063740374
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
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brassmonkey 03-22-2018 07:11 PM
sounds like it has been sold. :helpme:helpme you made a buyers thread :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :Oh crap:Oh crap

2MuchMark 03-22-2018 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242345)
Interdasting, it has been changed to cambuilder contacts, which is what streamate requires for the cambuilder whitelabels I think. But it is re-directing to google.

I wonder what is up with that.



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That's weird - I didn't know that this was a Streamate requirement. Is this only required for Cambuilder? Or is it required of all affiliates?

Bladewire 03-22-2018 07:32 PM
Like I said before my you need to copyright your domain without the.com and get the .net back via that route.

He feeds off negative energy and the more of this that goes up here on gfy the more he's going to to do stupid shit for attention.

candyflip 03-22-2018 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22240397)
First, there is no reason to get nasty. I did not call anyone stupid. I stated that I am a nice guy but draw the line at stupid, meaning that being TOO NICE is the same thing as being stupid.

I did not say that someone losing a domain was stupid.

I stated the facts as I know them and my opinion that someone doing what Mark described is NOT in my opinion, necessarily an asshole.

In the search you posted, one item seemed to be about what we are talking about (expired domains) and the link it went to is down, so I can not see what you are talking about.

It does not take much to keep a domain list organized in a spreadsheet or even a text file. I have at times had over 500 domains, right now I have about 100 or so, spread between 4 registrars.

I have never lost a domain because of an expiration. I check about once a month and renew anything coming up in the next 30 days. Right now I am not doing that because at the end of last year I had extra money so I renewed all my domain through May or June and I don't have to worry about it.

I would never depend on the registrar telling me the domain was going to expire. It is MY job to run my business properly.

nuff said.

Again, just my :2 cents:

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He eats cum and argues in the Internet. Sounds like a great life. I wouldn’t bother with him much more than to laugh at his misery.

sarettah 03-22-2018 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22242388)
That's weird - I didn't know that this was a Streamate requirement. Is this only required for Cambuilder? Or is it required of all affiliates?
This is from the FAQ on cambuilders https://cambuilder.com/app/#/faq

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Before you can start getting paid for a payout program other than the standalone Lifetime Revenue Share, you must transfer ownership of your domain to Cambuilder.

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2MuchMark 03-22-2018 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242400)
This is from the FAQ on cambuilders https://cambuilder.com/app/#/faq




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Interesting! I never knew that.

HairyChick 03-22-2018 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242400)
This is from the FAQ on cambuilders https://cambuilder.com/app/#/faq




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That in itself deserves a separate thread. You forget to renew, they grab it for themselves. You can't use other sponsors on that site. They control your ads and links.

Just doesn't seem Kosher.

As for the scammer, he's not scamming but is just looking to hurt you. He has and will make money doing it. Hiring a hacker sounds good but legally you could lose everything

Trademarks are wise. I did it and got money when the moron used my domain name dot org. He lost his sites, money and I didn't gloat, just said it was the price of dishonest business practices. He had a lot of sites like that including stolen content.

Years ago I used a service that notified me when someone used my images without permission. People don't change image names sometimes. I forget the name but it was about $100/year which aid for itself from bills I sent. Hosts and ISPs were happy to dump dishonest customers back then

Mr Pheer 03-22-2018 10:09 PM
I wonder if all the owners of the expired domains that I've bought cry like this.

I've let some really good domains expire and lost them to resellers. Only person I got mad at is myself, because it was ultimately my own fuckup. I havent seen a single one of those domains sell yet. They just sit there with ridiculous asking prices for years and I keep emailing them with my offer of a few hundred dollars for the very very few that I'd like to have back.

CurrentlySober 03-23-2018 04:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22242345)
Interdasting, it has been changed to cambuilder contacts, which is what streamate requires for the cambuilder whitelabels I think. But it is re-directing to google.

I wonder what is up with that.
From the UK it redirects to nakedcams.net - Live Sex Chat, Sex Shows and Webcam Sex - Amateur Cams and Pornstars not google

Bladewire 03-23-2018 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22242504)
Interesting

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22242422)
I wonder if all the owners of the expired domains that I've bought cry like this.

I've let some really good domains expire and lost them to resellers. Only person I got mad at is myself, because it was ultimately my own fuckup. I havent seen a single one of those domains sell yet. They just sit there with ridiculous asking prices for years and I keep emailing them with my offer of a few hundred dollars for the very very few that I'd like to have back.
:thumbsup

Kittens 03-23-2018 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22242422)
I wonder if all the owners of the expired domains that I've bought cry like this.

I've let some really good domains expire and lost them to resellers. Only person I got mad at is myself, because it was ultimately my own fuckup. I havent seen a single one of those domains sell yet. They just sit there with ridiculous asking prices for years and I keep emailing them with my offer of a few hundred dollars for the very very few that I'd like to have back.
I just want to re-emphasis this.

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kittens (Post 22242643)
I just want to re-emphasis this.
correct.

Bladewire 03-23-2018 08:49 AM
^^ False

This case is about holding a domain ransom from someone you know in an online community and then competing with them and the same Market space with that domain that is the same as the .com version that's been registered for years.

Totally different from scooping up an expired domain from someone you don't know and trying to monetize it.

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22242659)
domain ransom
you clearly have no understanding of the word "ransom"

2MuchMark 03-23-2018 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 22242422)
I wonder if all the owners of the expired domains that I've bought cry like this.

I've let some really good domains expire and lost them to resellers. Only person I got mad at is myself, because it was ultimately my own fuckup..
Hi Pheer,

I think maybe you missed my original post. I'm not crying (much) because I lost my domain. It was my mistake, and I'm sharing the info so others don't make the same mistake.

What I'm pissed off about, is that a member of the adult community bought my name, knowing it was mine. He tried to sell it to an employee of mine first and THEN tried to sell it to me, and then when I refused he threatened to compete against me in the market. << This is what I'm surprised at. On GFY we all bullshit each other and fight and swear and tell everyone's Moms to go fuck themselves but we all still do business together - not trick each other.

Peace.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22242659)
^^ False

This case is about holding a domain ransom from someone you know in an online community and then competing with them and the same Market space with that domain that is the same as the .com version that's been registered for years.

Totally different from scooping up an expired domain from someone you don't know and trying to monetize it.
EXACTLY. Thanks BW.

Bladewire 03-23-2018 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 22242663)
you clearly have no understanding of the word "ransom"
Yes I do $2,500 and you get your domain back or else. Don't be a dick an insult me just because you disagree don't try and twist facts and meanings.

You have no problem doing what Chris Butler did to fellow GFY members that's fine don't try and twist things just be a man about it.

You have no problem fucking over fellow GFY members we get it.

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22242665)
He tried to sell it to an employee of mine first and THEN tried to sell it to me, and then when I refused he threatened to compete against me in the market.
This is shitty. But certainly not a "scam".

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22242667)
get your domain back.
its NOT 2MuchMark's domain

Fat Panda 03-23-2018 09:12 AM
see you clowns later

off to drink beer

have fun sittin on gfy all weekend crying

maybe ill come back mon/tue to laugh at y'all some more

2MuchMark 03-23-2018 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 22242673)
This is shitty. But certainly not a "scam".
Buying up an expired domain is not a scam.

Buying up an expired domain of someone he knows, and then tries to sell it to an employee of mine, is scamy.

Threatening to develop it into something else (A Webcam review site) if I didn't buy it is scam-ish and petty. He could have at least offered to give me a banner on his site or something).

Plugging in Streamate and going to Twitter with a sound-alike name and spell-alike domain name is definitely scammy. He's attempting to trick our few loyal customers by creating brand confusion.

If you were pushing a product on GFY, and I created an account named Fat_Panda and posted products or services that went to a different site, I would be trying to scam your customers. If I offered to sell it to you for $$, I would be scamming you.

I get what you're saying though. Maybe a better phrase would have been "A GFY users is trying to fuck me over".

2MuchMark 03-23-2018 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 22242676)
see you clowns later

off to drink beer

have fun sittin on gfy all weekend crying

maybe ill come back mon/tue to laugh at y'all some more
Sorry you feel that way Fat Panda. Enjoy your weekend.

Bladewire 03-23-2018 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 22242676)
maybe ill come back mon/tue to laugh at y'all some more
This thread really brings the jerks out of the crowd. Blessing in disguise :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 03-23-2018 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22242701)
This thread really brings the jerks out of the crowd. Blessing in disguise :2 cents:
Yes - but for some people business is business and emotions, feelings, even online friendships do not matter. To some people.

Again, this is an unfortunate situation and again, if it were ME, I would just give the domain back to Mark. BUT what I wrote in the beginning of this thread, as harsh as it is, DOES apply somewhat.

Auto-renew is your friend. LOL

Bladewire 03-23-2018 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22242712)
Yes - but for some people business is business and emotions, feelings, even online friendships do not matter. To some people.

Again, this is an unfortunate situation and again, if it were ME, I would just give the domain back to Mark. BUT what I wrote in the beginning of this thread, as harsh as it is, DOES apply somewhat.

Auto-renew is your friend. LOL
Screwing over people that you know in a forum community, and targeting their specific business by using the same business name, and holding a version of their domain name hostage, is different than taking the domain and reselling it for a profit.

It's not business as usual. It's vindictive, spiteful & petty.

OneHungLo 03-23-2018 10:25 AM
I've made a lot of money snatching up expired domains. I've snatched up thousands and thousands of them. I'm sitting on like 200+ sites that i need to unload right now. I don't think we would be here if some random dude grabbed his domain. This was a calculated move by a user here who has ran through dozens of nics and has been accused of serious amounts of fraud.

The Porn Nerd 03-23-2018 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22242716)
Screwing over people that you know in a forum community, and targeting their specific business by using the same business name, and holding a version of their domain name hostage, is different than taking the domain and reselling it for a profit.

It's not business as usual. It's vindictive, spiteful & petty.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22242717)
I've made a lot of money snatching up expired domains. I've snatched up thousands and thousands of them. I'm sitting on like 200+ sites that i need to unload right now. I don't think we would be here if some random dude grabbed his domain. This was a calculated move by a user here who has ran through dozens of nics and has been accused of serious amounts of fraud.
Now that I know the whole story I agree 100% with both of you.

Look! We all agree on something! MAGA (Make America GFY Again).

2MuchMark 03-23-2018 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22242728)
Look! We all agree on something! MAGA (Make America GFY Again).
LOL! omg.


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