well steel is not a product from another countrie - actually steel is a chinese invention.
following your logic nobody else than the chinese should be allowed to produce it because they have been the inventors.

but the biggest thinking error is to speak about THE US and THE CHINESE. these trades are not between countries - they are between companies.
by setting a higher tariff on imported products these companies are unable to compete in the world market.

you forget here that the USA is an export nation - the second biggest in the world.
exporting goods is always based on the price of a good because every exported good will become anyway more expensive because of transport costs.

if you want to sell apples you will try to plant as many of them on the smallest piece of land. but you can not blame the apple tree fro not buying apples from you.

it has a reason why the stocks are falling that dramatically as they did in the past weeks.
investors know that the consequences will hit the US economy hard.
and not ONLY the US economy will suffer. many other countries will suffer too what makes it hard to get out of this circle again.

don´t wait that chinese will go on the street when they suffer - they are used to suffer - but are americans used to it?

and why china? did you ever had a look on the trade deficit US have with vietnam ?
but nooooo - nobody will touch this topic again in USA.

research a bit about the trade deficit and with what countries it is the highest.
you will find out that the only countries with a low or no deficit are the ones what are buying weapons from US - and THERE is the problem of your economy because it is based on an export industry what kills people.

the next problem is oil and pharma.
they are "exporting" to a price what is 99% lower as this products are sold in the USA.
they sell it again to own companies offshore and THEY sell them on the regular market price.

HOW can a country can have a balanced trade when the profits are made from own daughter companies offshore.

but THIS FACTS nobody will tell you because this is the establishment and trump is a part of them - he will not blame the real guilties because he is a beneficiary of this fraud.

Wrong tommy, USA export only what they can't consume themselves. It is goods with high added value.
Weapons as an example - invisible planes from cardboard.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...96_634x461.jpg

inside country they sell it too

The F-35 Is a $1.4 Trillion Dollar National Disaster
The F-35 Is a $1.4 Trillion Dollar National Disaster | The National Interest Blog

And when fuck up will come, need to find justification for this spending.:1orglaugh

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...6098.jpg?w=895

I can get you pieces of this plane if you are interested :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it has aluminium honey comb structure inside and is "invisible" on all 1960-s soviet radars :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You're right, and the American haters got their panties in a bunch for good reason.

Robots will be replacing humans with or without these tariffs.

Did you know Airbus and Boeing have factories in China?

That is until China develops its own airlines and steal the business completely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...duced_by_China

It'as a pity NZ doesn't run American elections then.

Bad news for bankers and economist. Good news for the workers.

what is the difference between robots and chinese that are taking the jobs ?


oh yes now i remember - robots don´t buy a fucking thing.

Will you pay more in taxes to support the people who are losing their jobs? This is assuming you're not already on benefits.

So what will stop China from stealing other people's work?

this first factory from boeing was opened in 2017 and they did not produce one aircraft yet.
(and I doubt that they will ever produce one anymore)

airbus has a factory since 1994 in china and they still exist - how can that be ?

wait how many more companies will go to china after this step.
they can forget the tariffs there have no transportation costs and are in the worlds fastest growing buyer market.

tell me one fucking reason what speaks for a trading war with them.

Nothing. The Chinese are dirtbag scum-sucking thieves with no honor and no integrity.

Pisses me off most recently about the Chinese in their trade is they used to put sugar syrup mixed with honey and sell it as 100% honey to America.

After we found this out and tested the honey they found a new way to bypass that test and give us Hone cut with other additives.

After we found out again we band China from importing honey to America. To bypass this honey that was cut with other ingredients was given to Malaysia in other countries to transport on their behalf to America.

The Chinese are dirtbag scum-sucking thieves with no honor and no integrity.

Good trading partners don't fuck you over like that. Good trading partners give you what you pay for.

Most of the population of China are on wages just above the poverty level.

So what can any country trade with China that China can't steal and make it themselves then export back to the country they stole it from?

They have 1.379 billion (2016).

Annual income for farmers is to exceed 11000 yuan (US$1175) in 2015, according to a Green Book on China's rural economy released by the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences on Wednesday.

Chinese factory workers are now getting paid more than ever: Average mothly wages hit $436 last year, spiking 64 percent from 2011, according to market research firm Euromonitor.

Try selling them anything when most earn shit money. The poor already buy Chinese.

Chinese Trade Balance Surplus Unexpectedly Declined In January | Tainted Alpha

https://www.indexmundi.com/blog/inde...ance-of-trade/

Made in China signifies lost jobs in the West. Either China slows down and buys more from the West or the West imposes sanctions on a nation that is determined to take over. And as much as you may mistrust America, China is less trustworthy. They just elected a President for a lifetime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China

5 Ways China Is More Repressive Under President Xi Jinping | Time

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/04/10/o...sty/index.html

the last trade war the USA had ended so well with the great depression :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%...ley_Tariff_Act


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nothing !

it is already forbidden since CENTURIES to import such products - and what did it help ?

the only way to prevent that is to be smarter and faster - competition makes the market.

there would not be any reason to become better when competition would not exist.

and btw. do you know what are the most stolen products ?

pharmaceutical products !!!!!

they produce the same for 1 cent what US pharma would like to sell them for 10 dollar.
this is not called stealing this is called selfdefense and fuck the blackmailers.

regarding china´s own airplane production you should also know that a lot of parts are made in germany and exported to china.

i still remember a sympathetic and less whiny america.
the usa has not sent the first humans into space, but it was reason enough for this generation to be the first on the moon.
I wish THIS America back and not an obvious heavyweight boxer who stands in the ring and howls: he beat me that's so mean !

this is a result of you lack logic.

WHY does a country have to spend all back to the country it exports?

this is not what global trading means.

to understand global trading you have to include the next steps

you import from country A
sell it to country B

now take country A out and tell them to buy for the same amount from you.
what will you get at the end when they say no ?

you can not be that stupid not to understand that ?

a world economy is the same as a business economy - you invest in something and get this investment back at a very other point.
why did you never ask your models to buy your videos?
you gave them money but they did not buy anything from you.

don´t you understand those simple facts ????

So Europe started taxing alluminium and steel from China to protect the EU market.
Now Trump is doing the same.

Like always in the economy the stock market let some air out and went a little bit down. That is where the phrase is from, buy low, sell high. Overall people won more the last years. And now some will loose. And in a few years, maybe a few days or weeks everything will be up. The dow also went down cause the interest is going up. Sometimes the bull wins, some times bears.

I don't see the problems. If there is no more money, just print some.

:1orglaugh
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Sticks take biggest plunge in 2 years LOL

Wassup Paul you old git lololololo

MAGA!

Everyone realizes China is a communist country right?

and what ?

So it seems for Americans to save a few bucks at Wallmart it is ok to look the other way and do business with a political system that is communist. Whats the big fuss about Russia? Hope I don't have to go into detail about what the Chinese government gets away with in regards to environment and human rights to save a buck.

They lost already

China's Tit-for-Tat Tariffs May Actually Boost U.S. Metal Makers
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-metal-makers

There was already a dutch company that will move the steel production to the USA.
And i read this tarif will cost China 25 billion and the counter import tax from China cost only 3 billion cause China doesn't want a trade war.

So what is the problem? And the stock markets, who cares about it. Most people won't. The DOW also went down cause Facebook has a huge part. But what is Facebook, never paid any dividends. The money is there on the stock market, doing nothing. So who cares if Facebook goes to 10 USD? I don't. When the market goes down, there are new opportunities. And i bet it is good for the environment also. People live to much for the fear of the day.

Who cares about the stock market? Pretty much anyone with a 401K or some other kind of retirement account. Most of them have at least some investments in the market. In the 2008 recession, many people lost massive chunks of their retirement because of the crash.

If they kept their stocks since the crash or bought extra, they will still have a big profit now. Just the economic cycle, up and down. Other gained a lot with put options. You can't gamble that the stocks Always go up. If they aren't coming down now, they will in another year.

Useful idiots, of course, don't know

https://coub.com/view/12bjmv
https://coub.com/view/12bn66

Do you want to put money on that?

Because of labour charges.

They will go and take the jobs with them. You will suffer if Germany loses jobs?

to save the economies of the West.

What this man said.

To be honest, I don't understand what makes them communists. The slogans? The red flag that they stole (as anything else) from the Soviet Union? They have to pay for medicine and education like Americans. They have a capitalist model of economics. Any average European county is 100'x times more communistic in comparison to China :2 cents:

So what can we do smarter and faster that they can't, oh wise one?

Proof you don't have a clue.

China?s unsatisfied hunger for German companies | Business| Economy and finance news from a German perspective | DW | 12.07.2017

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/m/jian...omeofgcic.html

https://www.vda.de/en/press/press-re...-in-China.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rman-factories

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-of-employees/

paul markhaming is not going to be solved...you can trade war all you want, the paul markhams will do everything possible to get a better deal and screw over their country men whilst preaching "keep em out! buy domestic!" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Because without balanced trade the economies of the West lose out. That means fewer jobs, lower wages, fewer opportunities. In porn, we rely on having customers who can afford to buy our products. Workers losing jobs or on lower wages reduces our market to sell.

My pensions were built in the time before we imported so much. They're rock solid. Today we are still recovering from a market crash. Look at the figures for borrowing. That's the only thing keeping the West afloat.

No it's not. It's built on capitalism.

Trump is winning. China doesnt want a trade war and doesn't tax much american goods.
Better for them, they wil lose more with all their money in American companies.
And the Chinese president can just wait 3 years when Trump leave and see what happen them.
Probably nothing, or will miss Obama of Oprah give the money back :)
He just got 'elected' as president till his death. So he has time.

Western elites do not want pay wages bigger than for Chinese and want have the life as dictators have. It is not the problem with Chinese.

'Mass suicide' protest at Apple manufacturer Foxconn factory
Around 150 Chinese workers at Foxconn, the world's largest electronics manufacturer, threatened to commit suicide by leaping from their factory roof in protest at their working conditions.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...n-factory.html

its not just the western elites its the regular people...NOBODY wants to pay more for goods...it is just that some people like to "paul markham" and pretend that they do, when they in fact do not...

of course :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh