Amending the constitution isn't forbidden. The Second Amendment already limits what firearms you're able to buy.

You have no case, sir.

It's not semantics you moron the Supreme Court ruled it!

You have no constitutional right to semi-automatic weapons.

You're a bad constitutionalist if you don't understand Supreme Court rulings regarding the Constitution and your rights, and lack thereof.

You NRA nutjobs believe everything the NRA tells you even when you have a Supreme Court ruling (multiple rulings) right in your face :1orglaugh

This gunman picked the wrong school to shoot up. This whole thing could have been swept aside in a few days as it usually goes, but these kids are smart, mature and said "fuck this shit". I really think they're going to get something done and it starts with voting out NRA shills like Marco Rubio and most other Republicans. Really...fuck the NRA. They're terrorists as far as I'm concerned.

Simple reason for that.

So how do you know none are members?

When I said the NRA side of the debate, I was referring to the pro-no restrictions on gun buyers side. Do you understand now?

So it took 26 people to die before an NRA guy turned up. And you think that's a good thing?

If the perpetrator had a muzzleloader 25 more people would be alive today.

The NRA is disgusting now. Look at this sleezeball Dana Loesch talkning about "fisting" the New York Times at the end and the condescending nasty way she talks she's really disgusting and the NRA loves her as their spokeswoman. Can you imagine how fucked up her children must be?

The National Rifle Association has gone way off message and ballooned into this ultra right wingnut pimp for gunmakers

If you look at the history of the NRA, they USED to be all about gun safety and responsible use, but they have changed. Just go to their website or watch a little NRA TV on Youtube and you'll see that their message isn't what it used to be.

Peace.

And a lot more common sense than you have.

No one is suggesting you lose all your guns, just the power of some, the size of the magazines, armour piercing bullets, large magazines, being over 21 with a good background check. You need a license to drive a car, but nearly anyone over 18 can buy a gun they have no knowledge of how to use, to store safely and the amount of guns.

Want to feel safer at home, buy a dog and get an alarm. Both will keep your kids safer than anything else.

You don't need more than six shots to defend yourself or hunt. One shot will do it most of the time.

You can't defend yourself against the Government. Ask the people in Waco and Ruby Ridge how that turned out.

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So make a decent case for keeping gun legislation as it is. We can argue that one instead.

Join up and take a course yourself. https://gfy.com/22243361-post5.html

This girls speech was amazing. These kids are going to change American gun law :thumbsup

"Sense" as in -- being okay with limiting people's rights ? I dont believe in limiting civil rights. FOSTA/SESTA will limit the rights of SWers and free speech so that children and women can be protected from trafficking. FOSTA/SESTA was not needed to protect trafficking victims. You want to protect kids in school ? You dont need new gun laws. You need make schools safer, not take away rights.

Those that want to limit your rights will always use the mantra "lets protect the children" to do so.... those in this industry should know that better than the average citizen, its been used against us for more than 40 years.

The might of the US Military didnt do very well with taking out insurgents in Syria...

A few thousand insurgents held Mosul for months.

The US military with help from its allies had to carpet bomb Mosul to finally prevail over ISIS troops using weapons less powerful that most US citizens own...

Its the same reason why the US military did poorly in Afghanistan.

The US will never carpet bomb a US city. They will never kill US citizens en mass to root out 4-5 million "insurgents" trying to defend the Constitution.

You forget that a bunch of farmers beat the Redcoats because of guerilla warfare tactics.

This would be no different, it would be house to house fighting which would seriously diminish any advantage that the weapons you posted would provide the US military.

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in the US military need gun control too
because kids crying

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^^ Russian laughing at American school children being murdered

need gun control comrade

American laughing at complete ignorance.

^^^ Posting at 7:43 pm Moscow time he'll be going to bed soon

Some solid discussion points - one thing not mentioned yet is that cca 97 pct. of gun related crime happens with illegally owned guns.

While everybody would want to see less nutters involved in mass shootings, these are by far not the most prevalent gun crime perpetrators.

The whole campaign, while fast to jump the gun, appears to completely ignore what to do about these 97 pct. of gun related crime.

It would almost appear like it's not the security, but politics being the principal issue.

I'm sick of idiots using the 2nd Amendment to hide behind. When it was written the most popular firearm was a flintlock musket, a rifle that had to be manually reloaded and fired 4 shots a minute. The 2nd is seriously outdated and needs to be revised.

What the fuck would you know about anything? Some smart kids are trying to change something shitty and assholes like you have nothing but disdain and ridicule for them. I hope you aren't a parent, or will never be a parent. People like you raising children are part of the world's problem.

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^^^ Fake News

no,you retard, it may not as well be

you and the other stooges are the first whining "fake news" about legit news but when something like this is faked for obvious political gain, you shrug it off

care to show a link to your 97% number?

cause it's one thing when criminals shoot each other with illegal guns and the other thing is when somebody marches into a school and shoots unarmed kids.

and the latter usually with legally obtained guns as in all recent incidents - even when there was strong indications of mental illness that a stronger gun control could have prevented

If you were in fact an attorney instead of a poor debater who resorts to name calling instead of fact you would know that in Heller v Washngton DC the court held that a person may own any firearm for any legal purpose, the idea was that DC was going to ban handguns, the same reasoning applies to what people wrongfully call assault and or military weapons. While it is not to say that they cant be regulated only that there has to be a damn good reason to do so.

If you feel so strongly about this, instead of name calling you might get with your congressional representative and draft a bill that does what you want...good luck with that.

I hate to win like this I much prefer an intelligent discourse but some people dont have the intellectual capacity to argue facts so they resport to childish antics like name calling....

I'd like to say that I'm amazed that you have to explain these basics to Trump supporters but I'm not amazed anymore it's sad and pathetic.

Supposed to be based on some studies of criminals involved in gun crime and how did they obtain their guns.

Of course it depends on methodology, if one would take into account homicides only - as a total body count, the number will be higher. Exactly due to mass shootings.

While if it includes also non fatal shootings it will be at the low end, that's mostly prevalent in gang shoot outs, robberies, any type of crime where the victim is at the gun point.

Of course it's not a good idea to have some sort of an outsider with a history of mental issues to have access to guns.

When I was a kid growing up in a small town the NRA would sponsor a hunter's safety course every year. They also sponsored a kid's gun safety course. They seemed to be more about gun safety and responsibility. Now they are just lobbyists for gun sellers.

Trump already sign the order for gun control in USA army, Russia will help execute this order. It all for your and world safety. Don't worry.

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The Constitution did not give us the right to have any guns on earth. We couldn't even buy assault rifles until the 80s.

Most so called "constitution defenders" are too fat to get into a fox hole or run 50 yards..

Wrong. You don't need the NRA for gun safety and the NRA touts gun safety when they really aren't anything more than gun makers trying to keep people buying their products in a passionate way.

supposed? how criminals obtained their guns? metholodgy?

so you say there is no statistical proof that 97% of all homicides happen with illegal guns?

you know, i'm giving you shit cause you are occasionally one of the "all press is fake news" posters - but then you pull a number like that out of the air without proof :winkwink:

Paul, this is another case where the system failed. The military knew that guy was mentally ill but didn't report it. He should've been ineligible to buy firearms. Let's fix the system & report these nutjobs before we punish law-abiding citizens. There was also another church right down the street, he could've killed way more if the NRA instructor hadn't been there with his ar-15.

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Seems like no one cars about Gen-X and Gen-Jones. Together, population wise, they are larger than Millennials and will be around beyond 20 years from now.

You obviously don't know much about guns asshole. I've owned rifle types like the top three in that pic and can honestly say there's a big difference between them. And if I was going to choose to shoot up a public place it sure as fuck wouldn't be the lever action or the bolt action. It would never enter my mind to use those two. Bitch, I've forgotten more about firing weaponry than you'll ever know and I'm the one with common sense on the issue. I served my country in the armed forces. Have you? You're fucking useless and should kill yourself.

Same here.
Watching the videos they release and the speeches they have given, shows they have turned into a gun lobbying organization

And you have less of a case, non-citizen.

I'd like the be in the middle of a sandwich between her and Tomi Lahren

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ive been watching from the sideline and i will say once and for all IM FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF YOUR BULLSHIT HERE BLADE AND CROCK OF SHIT AND SO ON> I AM BACK IN ADULT AND WHEN I SEE YOU YOU"LL KNOW IT>> FUCK>> SHUT THE HELL UP FOR ONCE...
THIS ISNT A POLITICAL BOARD AND ALL YOUR BUNCH DOES IS WHINE, BITCH AND COMPLAIN LIKE THE LITTLE BITCHES YOU ARE
< TRUMP IS PRESIDENT AND I HOPE HE GOES FULL RIGHT WING DICTATOR YET~~~!!!!

JESUS H CHRIST JUST GIVE IT A GODDAM REST BEFORE YOUR FACE GETS RE ARRANGED

FUCK and I capped thsi , goddam I dont care. you left wing loonies are on notice. fuck you. GFY.

That was obviously directed towards straight males ..so relax.

STFU snowflake

He's not American. There are only 700,000 guns in Russia. His personal experience with guns is severely limited.

The only thing he's capable of knowing is his cut and paste Russian Troll Army gun advocacy content.

I've had that fake Nic blocked for months I had no idea that that message was stare. The faith Nick troll is clearly melting down today it must be the Stormy Daniels effect :1orglaugh