its so amusing when the USA washes its hands from any responsibility for a region it totally fucked up and its allies are bombing :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
tell me, is the united states EVER to blame for anything? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
saudi is a puppet government its best buddies the USA armed it to shit and they are doing what the USA is telling them...
Tell us something: do you even realize how many players are involved in that conflict and are choosing to blame it all on the US, or does your hatred blind you to the facts?
Either way, you're still a fucking idiot.
pimpmaster9000
04-02-2018 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by newB
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Tell us something: do you even realize how many players are involved in that conflict and are choosing to blame it all on the US, or does your hatred blind you to the facts?
Either way, you're still a fucking idiot.
the USA fucked up and de-stabilized the entire middle east...here is a map of "US innocence" below...its funny you think you are not to blame :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
the USA fucked up and de-stabilized the entire middle east...here is a map of "US innocence" below...its funny you think you are not to blame :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
There you go: Obfuscate and deflect. Someone asks you a question you can't or won't answer, change the dialog. It's tiresome.
As to that map you keep posting; it's a little disingenuous don't you think? Since WWII, we've "targeted" Australia, Italy, France, etc? Incidentally, did you know Bin Laden was also a fan of that author? I guess we shouldn't be surprised that you two have so much in common.
Sarn
04-02-2018 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
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Churchill was against this, but a sick Roosevelt gave in to the Russians. My point is that Russia wanted to own whatever countries their troops took back from the Nazis.
I think we absolutely did not want these countries. But Nazis invade in USSR. You think we must stop the war on USSR borders?
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
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Every civilisation and Empire has done things they should be ashamed of.
If we are allowed to go back 100s or even 1,000s of years to ignore the situations of today. We will never resolve anything.
I agree with it
Bladewire
04-02-2018 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by crucifissio
(Post 22247452)
the USA fucked up and de-stabilized the entire middle east...here is a map of "US innocence" below...its funny you think you are not to blame :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
The middle east was never stable, just like your brain, always fighting with itself unstable.
pimpmaster9000
04-02-2018 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by newB
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There you go: Obfuscate and deflect. Someone asks you a question you can't or won't answer, change the dialog. It's tiresome.
As to that map you keep posting; it's a little disingenuous don't you think? Since WWII, we've "targeted" Australia, Italy, France, etc? Incidentally, did you know Bin Laden was also a fan of that author? I guess we shouldn't be surprised that you two have so much in common.
I am not deflecting anything...I am stating factual reality that the USA meddles in every country it can and that it has completely fucked up the middle east...if your boys Saudi are bombing them I kinda hold you responsible because they are your puppets...
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Originally Posted by Bladewire
(Post 22247472)
The middle east was never stable, just like your brain, always fighting with itself unstable.
humor me, is the united states EVER responsible for anything? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
newB
04-02-2018 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by crucifissio
(Post 22247500)
if your boys Saudi are bombing them I kinda hold you responsible because they are your puppets.
Thanks for proving my point. Nevermind the involvement of Britain, France, Iran, Qatar, North Korea, Syria, Russia, etc. For you, it's all about the US.
pimpmaster9000
04-02-2018 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by newB
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Thanks for proving my point. Nevermind the involvement of Britain, France, Iran, Qatar, North Korea, Syria, Russia, etc. For you, it's all about the US.
britain/france = your NATO puppets...insignificant states...
iran/quatar/syria = heavily influenced or fucked up by US foreign policy
russia = fought against US fuck up ISIS that the US created and armed etc...
it kinda is all about the US...
Paul Markham
04-03-2018 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarn
(Post 22247479)
I think we absolutely did not want these countries. But Nazis invade in USSR. You think we must stop the war on USSR borders?
I don't think anyone had the stomach for another war with Russia. Especially for a load of poor countries.
Sarn
04-03-2018 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
(Post 22247820)
I don't think anyone had the stomach for another war with Russia. Especially for a load of poor countries.
Of course, plan was different - Barbarossa(two days and win - if say shortly:1orglaugh:1orglaugh) smart plan of course.:1orglaugh
Other countries had not existed at that times, peoples too were with uncertain future on this territories. Infrastructure destroyed, people killed, workers not enough.
"The geopolitical disposition of Europe in 1941, immediately before the start of Operation Barbarossa. The grey area represents Nazi Germany, its allies, and countries under its firm control." https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._German%29.png
And we withdraw our troops from Europe 20 years ago, not destroy no one country and them population and was recovered infrastructure for them. We go away because cold war was over and threat finished.
And we have now new brave warriors here - and they saying Russia want war and captured other neighborhood countries:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
The original Latin of the expression "if you want peace, prepare for war" comes from Epitoma Rei Militaris, by the Roman general Vegetius (whose full name was Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus). The Latin is: "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."
