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spads 04-02-2018 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22247379)
The trends are nothing for London to be proud of. Let's get this into perspective though.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...o-31-this-year



2017 was record-low for homicides in New York City - NY Daily News



So glad I live in Czech.

Murder rate by the 100,000
United States 4.88
United Kingdom 0.92
Czech Republic 0.75


It is safe here in Czech Republic. It's just a shame that so many Czechs choose to be rude cunts though. It's almost as if safety makes people think they can get away with all sorts of shitty behavior.

OneHungLo 04-02-2018 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22247458)
Have you ever been to London? When was the last time you have left the state? Have you been anywhere except for that one time you went to florida?

My point is you need to get out more, see the world. It's much more peaceful and safe than your specific echo chamber of idiotic media click bait you read every single day says it is. I live in a diverse city. I grew up in one of the most diverse cities in the world. It's generally a good thing to be around other cultures and the criminal element is normally pretty small in most demographics.

Start with the food. You may not like it, but you could end up loving it.

Yes I've been to London. I've travelled all over Europe from Spain and Portugal to Amsterdam and to many countries in Eastern Europe. I've travelled extensively throughout the world. Just off the top of my head I'd say I've been to probably 40-50 countries. I grew up in the city around all colors and creeds.

So nothing you'll ever say will convince me that having a society become more islamic is a good thing. Sorry.

RandyRandy 04-02-2018 02:33 PM

I've been in NYC since 1983 and grew up just on the other side of the river. Murders were out of control in the late 80s/early 90s. Hit a high of 2,200 in 1992 during the Dinkins Administration. Giuliani was elected later that year and he started the fix to the problem. How?

1. Doubled the police force from 25,000 to 50,000

2. Established zero tolerance for quality of life crimes (drinking in public, trespassing, smoking pot, etc)

3. Had a task for that got guns off the street.

Giuliani's tactics would not work today. The task force that got guns off the street did so with mostly illegal searches and seizures. They were just concerned with results, not legalities. I myself was thrown up against a wall twice and illegally searched. Back then if you questioned the tactics you got arrested and processed and caught a beating in the station house.

Bottom line, Giuliani did what needed to be done for 2 terms and Mike Bloomberg continued the trend for 3 terms. So that's 25 years of law and order.

That wouldn't work today and frankly that's why Bill Deblasio is mayor and was re-elected last year. He's very anti-police and has reversed the quality of life prosecutions but so far the police force - especially undercover who you can't tell apart from the homeless - are keeping things in check.

Bottom line - Rudy Giuliani and Mike Bloomberg didn't care if they were liked or not. They just wanted to get done what needed to get done.

When mayors worry more about opinión polls then results, everyone suffers...

rogueteens 04-02-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22247458)
Have you ever been to London? When was the last time you have left the state? Have you been anywhere except for that one time you went to florida?

My point is you need to get out more, see the world. It's much more peaceful and safe than your specific echo chamber of idiotic media click bait you read every single day says it is. I live in a diverse city. I grew up in one of the most diverse cities in the world. It's generally a good thing to be around other cultures and the criminal element is normally pretty small in most demographics.

Start with the food. You may not like it, but you could end up loving it.

its the "diversity" that has the knives. You know, the sort that think raps songs are a guide to living their life.

hdbuilder 04-02-2018 03:41 PM

That's strange, tough London was a safe place

oppoten 04-02-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22247458)
Have you ever been to London? When was the last time you have left the state? Have you been anywhere except for that one time you went to florida?

My point is you need to get out more, see the world. It's much more peaceful and safe than your specific echo chamber of idiotic media click bait you read every single day says it is. I live in a diverse city. I grew up in one of the most diverse cities in the world. It's generally a good thing to be around other cultures and the criminal element is normally pretty small in most demographics.

Start with the food. You may not like it, but you could end up loving it.

We've eaten curry, now what? Echo chamber = "wow, the people around me see the world the same way that I do". You know, like your lot have in Israel. If the diversity around you turns bad, you can always make Aliyah to a homogenous country. Which you're trying to deprive the rest of us of.

Poit and poicel.

The Porn Nerd 04-02-2018 09:22 PM

"Cressida Dick, commissioner of the Metropolitan police..."

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oppoten 04-02-2018 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22247702)
"Cressida Dick, commissioner of the Metropolitan police..."

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pretty much sums it up

NewNick 04-03-2018 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22247437)
So this is what happens 20 years after banning hand guns?

Yes its absolutely appalling.

Murder rate by the 100,000
United States 4.88
United Kingdom 0.92
Czech Republic 0.75

Clearly we need to arm everyone.

Fucking idiot.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NewNick 04-03-2018 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22247572)
Yes I've been to London. I've travelled all over Europe from Spain and Portugal to Amsterdam and to many countries in Eastern Europe. I've travelled extensively throughout the world. Just off the top of my head I'd say I've been to probably 40-50 countries. I grew up in the city around all colors and creeds.

So nothing you'll ever say will convince me that having a society become more islamic is a good thing. Sorry.

Yes.

But he did not actually say that did he.

Another fucking inbred idiot.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

CurrentlySober 04-03-2018 04:12 AM

Fiddy murders and some poo :)

Paul Markham 04-03-2018 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22247437)
So this is what happens 20 years after banning hand guns?

A murder rate lower than 1/4 of America's.

Paul Markham 04-03-2018 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22247458)
Have you ever been to London? When was the last time you have left the state? Have you been anywhere except for that one time you went to florida?

My point is you need to get out more, see the world. It's much more peaceful and safe than your specific echo chamber of idiotic media click bait you read every single day says it is. I live in a diverse city. I grew up in one of the most diverse cities in the world. It's generally a good thing to be around other cultures and the criminal element is normally pretty small in most demographics.

Start with the food. You may not like it, but you could end up loving it.

I lived in London from 1950 to 1989. And I can tell you first hand what a diverse culture has done to many parts of the UK and London in particular.

Created a housing crisis the government can't afford to solve.
Created low wage for 50% of the population.
Created high unemployment.
Higher youth unemployment
Higher murder rate.
Made huge demands on education.
Sent the country into spiralling debt.
Areas of cities are segregated because these diverse cultures don't like to mix.

Do tell us about diversification and the benefits of Multiculturalism.

Paul Markham 04-03-2018 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spads (Post 22247568)
It is safe here in Czech Republic. It's just a shame that so many Czechs choose to be rude cunts though. It's almost as if safety makes people think they can get away with all sorts of shitty behavior.

I find Czech people very polite.

Bladewire 04-03-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22247781)
Do tell us about diversification and the benefits of Multiculturalism.

It's called America.

Europe is too snobby, they don't culturally accept diversity ( you are a perfect example of this ) they just tuck minorities away in a slum, don't hire them for decent paying jobs, then wonder why they are forced to live off the system.

America accepts diversity and we are experts at accommodating anyone from anywhere in the world with open arms. Trump is a hateful anomaly the last of a dead breed of pathetic mongrels that don't want America to succeed but for the 1%.

The Porn Nerd 04-03-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22247832)
It's called America.

Europe is too snobby, they don't culturally accept diversity ( you are a perfect example of this ) they just tuck minorities away in a slum, don't hire them for decent paying jobs, then wonder why they are forced to live off the system.

America accepts diversity and we are experts at accommodating anyone from anywhere in the world with open arms. Trump is a hateful anomaly the last of a dead breed of pathetic mongrels that don't want America to succeed but for the 1%.

QFT :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 04-03-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22247781)
I lived in London from 1950 to 1989. And I can tell you first hand what a diverse culture has done to many parts of the UK and London in particular.

Created a housing crisis the government can't afford to solve.
Created low wage for 50% of the population.
Created high unemployment.
Higher youth unemployment
Higher murder rate.
Made huge demands on education.
Sent the country into spiralling debt.
Areas of cities are segregated because these diverse cultures don't like to mix.

Do tell us about diversification and the benefits of Multiculturalism.

bullshit...the housing market is a racket in london...the entire side of the street I used to live in was owned by a single person...poor people do not get to swing the hosing market as they do not get to influence the yacht market :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

paul markham-ing did the rest...you are living proof of how cheaper labor/life is magic to people...shit you live in a country where you do not even speak the language but you keep living there like a lonely old git just because its cheap :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 04-03-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22247832)
It's called America.

Europe is too snobby, they don't culturally accept diversity ( you are a perfect example of this ) they just tuck minorities away in a slum, don't hire them for decent paying jobs, then wonder why they are forced to live off the system.

America accepts diversity and we are experts at accommodating anyone from anywhere in the world with open arms. Trump is a hateful anomaly the last of a dead breed of pathetic mongrels that don't want America to succeed but for the 1%.

The diverse cultures choose to live in their own areas. Much like African Americans and areas like Little Italy, Chinatown, Somalians in the US.

It's been happening for centuries, nice try to blame this on Trump.

marcop 04-03-2018 09:28 AM

I'm not surprised; when I was a kid, we moved to a council estate in South London, and I got beaten up twice the first week we lived there--and I was only 8 years old. You have more chance getting in a fight in England than you do in the US, IMHO. People like to fuck with you more in the UK, which seems to happen less in the US. I've been in America since 1981 and have never got in a fight here--I got in a fight the last year I was in England though.

NatalieK 04-03-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hdbuilder (Post 22247597)
That's strange, tough London was a safe place

:helpme :warning :error

London gangs have always existed, guns, knives, gang beatings...

the krays were from London :2 cents:

Paul Markham 04-03-2018 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 22247905)
I'm not surprised; when I was a kid, we moved to a council estate in South London, and I got beaten up twice the first week we lived there--and I was only 8 years old. You have more chance getting in a fight in England than you do in the US, IMHO. People like to fuck with you more in the UK, which seems to happen less in the US. I've been in America since 1981 and have never got in a fight here--I got in a fight the last year I was in England though.

Let us compare the UK murder rate in 1081 and today then. :Oh crap

Paul Markham 04-04-2018 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22248198)
:helpme :warning :error

London gangs have always existed, guns, knives, gang beatings...

the krays were from London :2 cents:

The problem today is kids in gangs. Professional gangs like the Krays didn't target innocent citizens and rarely killed.

NatalieK 04-04-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22248326)
The problem today is kids in gangs. Professional gangs like the Krays didn't target innocent citizens and rarely killed.

agreed. The kids today don´t realize one stab does kill :2 cents:


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