*Clap clap*

What a load of bullshit that statement is. The media and all Trump-haters have been screaming that Trump is starting a "Trade War" for the past 2 weeks. And that now the U.S. was going to pay the price as China would walk all over us.
Even this very thread title states that: "The Donald has started a trade war with China."

And NOW, when Trump's strategy worked...you pretend that none of that happened and everyone knew that China was going to do this already? And there was NEVER any danger of a "trade war" after all?

And why would China do this without Trump's tactics?

Let me guess...Pres. Obama probably had China ready to submit the whole time and they just happened to pick now to do it. :1orglaugh

You are twisting yourself up trying to keep from admitting you're wrong. But you are...wrong.

The trade war threat didn't came from China did it?, the only reason your stock market today is not down below 20,000 is Xi.. repeated what he said last year. Research " Xi's speech at Davos " and while your there look up his trade philosophy because it certainly goes against everything Trump touts.

Had of Xi said anything different, right now the USA would be in melt down. Your president might be willing to wipe billions off in a day, XI won't because he's a leader not a celebrity TV host primarily concerned about ratings.. but he can after all the USA represents only 21.1% of their trade..

Xi save the American markets from collapse... eat it up!

Population wise, the USA has a far greater trade imbalance with Australia, don't see the Australian government screaming much about that do we, in fact they were willing to open it up even more but then Trump cancelled TPP, even though the USA had a surplus with us. Ask your pork and beef farmers how that worked out for them.. hehe Australia just went straight to Japan and nicked your market share from there.

The imbalance the USA has with China is to do with your consumer habits, and what your trying to sell them back. Stop trying to sell the Chinese shit, and stop consuming 2 dollar crap and the problem goes away. But nah must have those chemical sugar fruit loops for breakfast...

Also the trade imbalance disappears naturally as China grows, the world's just at a crossover point, they already consume more than they can produce and their only at 25%

The best indicator if Trump had anything to do with this.. is look at the news in other countries, if Trump was responsible, no other country would be more appreciative than Australia, as 80% of our trade is with China, pulling back sanctions makes us.. Trillions

https://www.smh.com.au/

Dirty local politician.. Trump gets a mention over FBI thing and usual dribble over local community news. See its not even mentioned.. because it was already in progress and we know all to well what China says and what China does can be very different.

Its got to be all over German news right.. BMW's their biggest company
News and current affairs from Germany and around the world | DW
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See Robbie you have been clucked by your media, right wing sites and the idiot you have running your country again.

But lets say Trump did do this, and its only because of Trump! Dear glorious leader trump.

List of countries that benefit the most from sanction removal from China in order, above USA

Hong Kong 47.8%
Kyrgyzstan 37.8%
Macau 36.7%
Cambodia 35.3%
Myanmar 33.9%
Mongolia 33.2%
Cuba 29.2%
Pakistan 29.1%
Ethiopia 28.8%
Togo 28.7%
Paraguay 27.3%
Iraq 26.9%
Japan 25.8%
Solomon Islands 25.3%
Vietnam 25.1%
Bangladesh 24.3%
Chile 24.3%
Kenya 24.1%
Australia 23.4%
Indonesia 22.9%
Peru 22.8%
Uzbekistan 22.2%
Russia 21.6%
Thailand 21.6%
South Korea 21.4%
Madagascar 21.2%
Rwanda 21.2%
United States 21.1%


I guess you can call that the art of the deal?

China has opened its markets for ALL countries, there's no special trade deals being done with the USA.. yet, But Xi has made it clear that's not what he wants, he's a Globalist

"China is a vanguard protector of globalisation and economic liberalisation. Those that reject innovation will be left behind and be assigned to the dustbin of history,” Xi said. “Human history shows that openness leads to progress, while seclusion leaves one behind. ”cold war and zero-sum mentality” was out of place."

You keep voting for politicians who gut it for you.

So now China is allowed to set the course of trade. And America used to be such a great country.

The stock market depends on the profit and loss of large corporations. Not the effect those companies have on the people. Good to see you side with the stock market.

If America moves from buying from China to buying from other countries to protect the wealthy and hurt the rest. It will sink into third, then fourth, then fifth place. Funny watching you cheer for the wealthy.

How much of the debt you owe have you paid back yet for bailing out the banks?

Yep the only thing that was on the books to slow the growth of China was TPP, Trump cancelled it day one, effectively handing world leadership to Xi. Just a matter of time now.

Next thing Trump needs to do either by bombing or starving is hand China, North Korea, That will give them military bases in the south China sea they want and an unlimited supply of cheap labour ( All great economy's need their slaves ), Russia will probably try and muscle in on that but China will win. All the cheap shit the Chinese want will come from North Korea and they can also pass off their major polluting industries.

China is not immune to internal conflict however, they have plenty of their own old cranky people and radicals.

Can you please point out to me what part of TPP was going to "slow the growth of China"?

And why in the hell would China sign something like that to shoot themselves in the foot?

Trump is NOT looking to "slow the growth of China". He is looking to have them stop CHEATING.
They impose tariffs on our products. They steal intellectual property. They basically act like a third world country and cheat on everything.

Time to put an end to it.

And if you would simply follow the NEWS of the day...you would know already that China has indeed "blinked" and Trump's strategy is working.

The TPP? What a joke. Educate yourself brother.

^^^ Supports Trump attacking the adult industry and signing FOSTA into law, pretends Craigslist stopping adult ads doesn't impact him getting strangers to fuck his wife on camera.

That's a bit rude don't you think?

No. He's very open about it. Have you not seen the descriptions on his videos?

Did i just read that China will open its borders for foreign investors? That is a winning, the whole world complained about that. Is logic, else you can't invest in any company when they start producing it in China and all production is taken over by China, while they buy everything everywhere in the world. In the mean time also a lot of economist said it was time to make new trading agreements.

With or without TPP China's trade with the EU is another one-sided deal and China will keep taking more than it gets.

But if you're happy buying from slave owners then go ahead.

TPP was only ever going to slow the growth of China not stop it simply by making partner counties more reliant on each other than China. For example China can easily and want to buy 100% of All Australian exports, which makes it a little difficult when the USA wants something that China does not agree with. Repeat that scenario with 20 countries which is now happening (Thanks Trump!) and the USA looses all power and influence.

I'm a Kiwi we already have a 100% free trade deal with China and can do that because we avoid imported products over local

Yesterday for example they told American and Russian oil companies to stop drilling and fuck off. And its the only country I know of that told the USA and their war machine to take a hike.. your moneys not wanted.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern bans new offshore oil and gas exploration in New Zealand - NZ Herald

"By ending new oil and gas exploration in our waters, the fourth largest Exclusive Economic Zone on the planet is out of bounds for new fossil fuel exploitation. New Zealand has stood up to one of the most powerful industries in the world."

China taking more than it can get is only a very short term in history, they are already consuming far more than they can produce while adding 16 million more people to their population a year.. as long as your trying to sell them the right product, which most American business don't seem to get yet but those that have.. stuff the USA 1000% the money to be made in china..