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INever 04-07-2018 07:41 AM

$50 covered blown jobs

pornlaw 04-07-2018 07:43 AM

93 page indictment filed against 7 individuals...

Indictment remains under seal by order of the Judge... Im assume thats possibly because more charges are on the way...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ges/310430001/

SuckOnThis 04-07-2018 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22249684)
Because Obama signed the internet over to the UN?

:1orglaugh

All giggly little girls are annoying as fuck, so there's that.

Brian mike 04-07-2018 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22249860)
93 counts filed against 7 individuals...

Indictment remains under seal by order of the Judge... Im assume thats possibly because more charges are on the way...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ges/310430001/

Thanks for the update :thumbsup

pornlaw 04-07-2018 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22249863)
Thanks for the update :thumbsup

EDITED: Its not 93 counts, its a 93 page indictment. Just saw a more recent news article...

ClayM 04-07-2018 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22249864)
EDITED: Its not 93 counts, its a 93 page indictment. Just saw a more recent news article...

Do you think backpage will try and fight it and get there site back

The Porn Nerd 04-07-2018 08:55 AM

So who will rise to replace Backpage? Sexy Jobs?

Busty2 04-07-2018 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22249902)
So who will rise to replace Backpage? Sexy Jobs?

Skipthegames.com ?

pornlaw 04-07-2018 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClayM (Post 22249874)
Do you think backpage will try and fight it and get there site back

Absolutely. These guys have the money to fight and have the lawyers to do it.

Bob Corn-Revere, a First Amendment expert and Steven Ross, former General Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives.

ilnjscb 04-07-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22249902)
So who will rise to replace Backpage? Sexy Jobs?

Please don't post that - They'll be targeted next.

nikki99 04-07-2018 09:44 AM

today cracker is seized as well , South America used to work with Cracker, guess the streets will be full of hookers again

nikki99 04-07-2018 11:14 AM

hookers back to the streets

http://www.fuckingnikki.com/gfy/gf.jpg

The Porn Nerd 04-07-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22249929)
Please don't post that - They'll be targeted next.

Good point! But too late it seems....:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 22249932)
today cracker is seized as well , South America used to work with Cracker, guess the streets will be full of hookers again

I cry for the call girls. :(

Brian mike 04-07-2018 04:10 PM

ECCIE WENT Blank for me WOW :helpme

CaptainHowdy 04-07-2018 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 22249956)
hookers back to the streets

Would that lower the price??

slapass 04-07-2018 04:15 PM

Wasn’t cracker blocked in the US?

TheDynasty 04-07-2018 04:17 PM

EroticMonkey still up , Adultsearch still up

ClayM 04-07-2018 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22249922)
Absolutely. These guys have the money to fight and have the lawyers to do it.

Bob Corn-Revere, a First Amendment expert and Steven Ross, former General Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives.

What do you think there chances are ?

Bladewire 04-07-2018 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22249919)
Skipthegames.com ?

PlentyofFish.com? Seekingarrangement.com? Phrendly.com? Relationshipallowance.com? sugardaddie.com? Thousands of Facebook dating groups https://m.facebook.com/groups/1453226388328438/

The lists go on and on and on and on and on... :D

Mr Pheer 04-07-2018 09:34 PM

Those poor hookers. It's dangerous to be on the streets.

pornlaw 04-08-2018 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22250062)
PlentyofFish.com? Seekingarrangement.com? Phrendly.com? Relationshipallowance.com? sugardaddie.com? Thousands of Facebook dating groups https://m.facebook.com/groups/1453226388328438/

The lists go on and on and on and on and on... :D

Some of those will also be on the hit list...

magneto664 04-08-2018 08:10 AM

someone loses someone wins
traffic from USA on my escort directories go up to 1700% from 2 days.

Bladewire 04-08-2018 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22250117)
Some of those will also be on the hit list...

"Hit list" :1orglaugh

Not all platforms operate like Craigslist fucking over their user base to not spend a time, or out any effort into, protecting their tights.

Craigslist always had the worst support anyway and tyrannical nazi volunteer admins that would constantly delete ads and anything flagged without even looking or explaining.

ErectMedia 04-08-2018 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22250044)
Would that lower the price??

Craigslist personals and Backpage down at the same time. Would say odds are high in a few weeks you'll find hookers standing by your car door offering to swallow the goo for $20 and 3 cigarettes. :winkwink:

Bladewire 04-08-2018 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 22250215)
Craigslist personals and Backpage down at the same time. Would say odds are high in a few weeks you'll find hookers standing by your car door offering to swallow the goo for $20 and 3 cigarettes. :winkwink:

Now we know where to find you playing dressup on the weekends. Tell us, how many gobs of goo can you gulp down on your best weekends?

ErectMedia 04-08-2018 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22250220)
Now we know where to find you playing dressup on the weekends. Tell us, how many gobs of goo can you gulp down on your best weekends?

Says the gay guy that edits gay porn all day. :1orglaugh
Trump Nation :thumbsup

Bladewire 04-08-2018 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 22250222)
Says the gay guy that edits gay porn all day. :1orglaugh
Trump Nation :thumbsup

I'll take that as you're too high on semen juice to count :thumbsup

pornlaw 04-08-2018 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22250211)
"Hit list" :1orglaugh

Not all platforms operate like Craigslist fucking over their user base to not spend a time, or out any effort into, protecting their tights.

Craigslist always had the worst support anyway and tyrannical nazi volunteer admins that would constantly delete ads and anything flagged without even looking or explaining.

You think the govt chooses who to go after based on bad customer service ? lol

artwilliams 04-08-2018 10:48 AM

What's to stop an enterprising individual NOT from a western world country from setting up a similar service with off-shore hosting using ad revenue as the monetization?

Paul Markham 04-08-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22249922)
Absolutely. These guys have the money to fight and have the lawyers to do it.

Bob Corn-Revere, a First Amendment expert and Steven Ross, former General Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Is accepting paid advertising for prostitutes legal or not?

Bladewire 04-08-2018 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22250227)
You think the govt chooses who to go after based on bad customer service ? lol

You're changing the subject.

A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law.

B) I was addressing platforms folding, not giving a fuck about their users or even trying to fight for their freedom of speech, Craigslist as an example.

C) When you purposely confuse issues because you're a porn attorney, and defend Trump daily, and he's putting people out of business in our industry, you look like a fucking moron.

D) Try addressing what I actually say instead if confusing issues and wasting my time to set you straight and the readers time, you don't do anyone any favors especially yourself.

Bladewire 04-08-2018 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22250245)
Is accepting paid advertising for prostitutes legal or not?

Most ads on the platforms that closed were free Paul. Jesus fucking Christ it's the blind leading the blind with these fucking moron Trump supporters who work in our industry. Paul doesn't work though, but he supports Trump and hates the porn industry since he stopped being able to make money in it, he'd love to see the rest of us left fail.

The Porn Nerd 04-08-2018 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22250252)
Most ads on the platforms that closed were free Paul. Jesus fucking Christ it's the blind leading the blind with these fucking moron Trump supporters who work in our industry. Paul doesn't work though, but he supports Trump and hates the porn industry since he stopped being able to make money in it, he'd love to see the rest of us left fail.

No one can make you fail except yourself. Haters always gonna hate. Focus on your own shit instead of pointing fingers. That goes for everyone not just you. It's not "the law" or Trump or Obama or this or that excuse. Obviously people still make millions in the Adult Industry. This nonsense with Backpage won't mean shit in the long run. Backpage is an easy target, as was Craig's List. Mongers will know where to find the whores I would not worry about them.

pornlaw 04-08-2018 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22250248)
You're changing the subject.

A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law.

Spend more time researching and less time posting...

2010 – Craigslist.com – Craigslist Closes Its Sex-Related Ad Section - The New York Times

2011 – Escorts.com – https://domaininvesting.com/escorts-...1-advertising/

2014 – Redbook.com – https://www.wired.com/2015/02/redbook/

2015 – RentBoy.com – https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/n...-sex-work.html

2016 – TheReviewBoard.com – https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

2016 – Backpage.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/31/ca...harris-pimping

2017 – Eros.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/er...meland-securit

Its been going on for 8 years...

Brian mike 04-08-2018 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22250279)

This site is the only one that have a CRAZY SCREENING process for their advertiser.
Not sure if he will shut down but is the only one i know who are crazy with the screening and talk directly to the service provider in question who put up the ad.
Back then it was that way lol.

pornlaw 04-08-2018 06:11 PM

FOSTA to be signed on Wednesday by Trump...

https://www.axios.com/newsletters/ax...organic#story4

GAMEFINEST 04-08-2018 06:24 PM

I guess this kills more people than guns.

Makes sense

HairyChick 04-08-2018 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22250279)
Spend more time researching and less time posting...

2010 – Craigslist.com – Craigslist Closes Its Sex-Related Ad Section - The New York Times

2011 – Escorts.com – https://domaininvesting.com/escorts-...1-advertising/

2014 – Redbook.com – https://www.wired.com/2015/02/redbook/

2015 – RentBoy.com – https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/n...-sex-work.html

2016 – TheReviewBoard.com – https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

2016 – Backpage.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/31/ca...harris-pimping

2017 – Eros.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/er...meland-securit

Its been going on for 8 years...

Great research. I told a friend last night that this can’t be the first site shutdown nor will it be the last. It’s just not heavily covered by the media until now. I’m wrong to blame Trump solely.

I visited one site today for the first time. Blatant escort and hooker ads. Reviews like “$100 for the best cocksucker” right on the front page and I never signed up to go in and read ads. No warning page either. I remember when sites began putting up the warnings. Hosts were shutting down sites without them. Thinking back, it was around the time Traci Llords fucked us up and brought 18 USC 2257 upon us. Nowadays you see few sites referencing that law but I remember how many sites shut down. Oh, the lawyers advertising themselves as keepers of record for $1,000/year I’m sure it’s in the archives here, the panic, fear and hosts dropping sites.

Ahh the good ol’ days ...

Bladewire 04-08-2018 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22250279)
Spend more time researching and less time posting...

2010 – Craigslist.com – Craigslist Closes Its Sex-Related Ad Section - The New York Times

2011 – Escorts.com – https://domaininvesting.com/escorts-...1-advertising/

2014 – Redbook.com – https://www.wired.com/2015/02/redbook/

2015 – RentBoy.com – https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/n...-sex-work.html

2016 – TheReviewBoard.com – https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

2016 – Backpage.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/31/ca...harris-pimping

2017 – Eros.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/er...meland-securit

Its been going on for 8 years...

Typical... A-D and you pick the easiest to address lazy boy :evil-laug

HB-1865 is not law yet!

I said "A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law."

So you post a bunch of cases over the last 8 years that have nothing to do with HB-1865 being law.

Why?

EliteWebmaster 04-08-2018 07:15 PM

We did great profits from Backpage. We pull in 20K a month a month on backpage and what some of you didn't know since no one in this thread has mentioned is that Backpage had a sister site that not alot of people knew about PostFastr.com and we pulled another 5-7K a month on it too. I am not going to lie and say it doesn't suck when I just lost 25-27K revenue but it is what it is.

To be honest, we could see it coming, when credit card companies started to refuse processing payments on the Backpage, it was imminent that backpage was going to be shut down at some point. The US gov't doesn't like a US company making 150M tax free revenue a year and not being able to tax a penny of it because Backpage owners had their liquid assets in Bitcoin.

For anyone not knowing about Postfastr, it was created by Backpage as a means to accept credit card payments. It looked exactly like the Backpage site but with a yellow and black color scheme instead of the light blue scheme. Same setup and everything. Backpage couldn't accept credit cards. But Postfastr was able to. The trick was that when you paid for credits on your Postfastr account, magically, Postfastr would deposit those same credits in both your Backpage and Postfastr accounts. They found a way to circumvent credit card companies not processing for Backpage. Then a few months ago, the US gov't caught wind of the trick, and Postfastr was no longer accepting credit card payments. So as you can see, we knew it was coming...

The Porn Nerd 04-08-2018 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 22250444)
We did great profits from Backpage. We pull in 20K a month a month on backpage and what some of you didn't know since no one in this thread has mentioned is that Backpage had a sister site that not alot of people knew about PostFastr.com and we pulled another 5-7K a month on it too. I am not going to lie and say it doesn't suck when I just lost 25-27K revenue but it is what it is.

To be honest, we could see it coming, when credit card companies started to refuse processing payments on the Backpage, it was imminent that backpage was going to be shut down at some point. The US gov't doesn't like a US company making 150M tax free revenue a year and not being able to tax a penny of it because Backpage owners had their liquid assets in Bitcoin.

For anyone not knowing about Postfastr, it was created by Backpage as a means to accept credit card payments. It looked exactly like the Backpage site but with a yellow and black color scheme instead of the light blue scheme. Same setup and everything. Backpage couldn't accept credit cards. But Postfastr was able to. The trick was that when you paid for credits on your Postfastr account, magically, Postfastr would deposit those same credits in both your Backpage and Postfastr accounts. They found a way to circumvent credit card companies not processing for Backpage. Then a few months ago, the US gov't caught wind of the trick, and Postfastr was no longer accepting credit card payments. So as you can see, we knew it was coming...

But how did you make so much $ on Backpage a month?
Ads for Oily Asses? LOL

EliteWebmaster 04-08-2018 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22250446)
But how did you make so much $ on Backpage a month?
Ads for Oily Asses? LOL

haha no :1orglaugh. We facilitated payments. We worked with the service providers who didn't use bitcoin but wanted to pay with their credit card or cash, they would pay us, we took a nominal % and deposited credits into their accounts. :)

pornlaw 04-08-2018 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22250437)
Typical... A-D and you pick the easiest to address lazy boy :evil-laug

HB-1865 is not law yet!

I said "A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law."

So you post a bunch of cases over the last 8 years that have nothing to do with HB-1865 being law.

Why?

Okay lets just ignore all of the escorting sites that have been shut down without FOSTA over the past 8 years and pretend it didnt happen...

Perhaps what you meant to say was "A) The government hasnt gone after anyone with HR-1865 yet, its not even a fucking law."

Does that better support your argument.

I know facts dont count with you but at least the way you word your arguments should.

BTW its HR not HB

Now what are you going to do when -- and this is a real possibility -- Trump and the GOP controlled DOJ DONT actually prosecute anyone with HR 1865?

This law is so poorly written and overly broad it probably wont withstand judicial review. So perhaps they will never go after anyone with FOSTA and will just use it like 18 USC 2257 to scare people.

The Porn Nerd 04-08-2018 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 22250458)
haha no :1orglaugh. We facilitated payments. We worked with the service providers who didn't use bitcoin but wanted to pay with their credit card or cash, they would pay us, we took a nominal % and deposited credits into their accounts. :)

Oh gotcha. :) Nice move! I should get in on that "I'll just take a wee % to help you move money around" game. :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 22250480)
Okay lets just ignore all of the escorting sites that have been shut down without FOSTA over the past 8 years and pretend it didnt happen...

Perhaps what you meant to say was "A) The government hasnt gone after anyone with HR-1865 yet, its not even a fucking law."

Does that better support your argument.

I know facts dont count with you but at least the way you word your arguments should.

BTW its HR not HB

Now what are you going to do when -- and this is a real possibility -- Trump and the GOP controlled DOJ DONT actually prosecute anyone with HR 1865?

This law is so poorly written and overly broad it probably wont withstand judicial review. So perhaps they will never go after anyone with FOSTA and will just use it like 18 USC 2257 to scare people.

So Backpage will be back then?

pornlaw 04-08-2018 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22250481)

So Backpage will be back then?

Backpage wont be prosecuted under FOSTA. Even if FOSTA gets enjoined by some chance, Backpage will still be prosecuted under the old laws. Its gone and its not coming back. Thats why they hit them before FOSTA.

Paul Markham 04-09-2018 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22250252)
Most ads on the platforms that closed were free Paul. Jesus fucking Christ it's the blind leading the blind with these fucking moron Trump supporters who work in our industry. Paul doesn't work though, but he supports Trump and hates the porn industry since he stopped being able to make money in it, he'd love to see the rest of us left fail.

So is publishing free ads illegal?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...ion-ads-507343

Quote:

Backpage.com, a classified advertising website that faced persistent allegations of profiting from illegal prostitution, was shut down by the U.S. government Friday as authorities reportedly brought criminal charges against seven of those involved in operating the site.

Visitors to the website Friday afternoon saw a notice indicating various Backpage sites were taken over in an “enforcement action” brought by the FBI, the Postal Inspection Service and the IRS.

A grand jury in Phoenix returned a 93-count indictment charging seven people associated with Backpage with using the internet to knowingly facilitate illegal prostitution and money laundering, according to CBS News and KPHO-TV.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ges/495701002/

Quote:

PHOENIX — A founder of a 45-year-old alternative weekly newspaper in Phoenix has been charged in the apparent culmination of a federal human-trafficking investigation.

Michael Lacey, 69, of Sedona, Ariz., who helped build a nationwide media empire out of the Phoenix New Times, was charged Friday as part a 93-count indictment that remained sealed late Friday, according to Lacey's lawyer, Larry Kazan.

Lacey also co-founded the online classified advertising site Backpage, and authorities had spent months probing whether the website served as a willing participant in the online sale of sex, including with underage girls.
As some people have been charged I would say they were breaking some laws allegedly.


The problem with the Internet is it is like trying to turn back the tide. Loads of other places people will look.

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&e....0.mNG14u1iniM

Paul Markham 04-09-2018 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns (Post 22250435)
Great research. I told a friend last night that this can’t be the first site shutdown nor will it be the last. It’s just not heavily covered by the media until now. I’m wrong to blame Trump solely.

I visited one site today for the first time. Blatant escort and hooker ads. Reviews like “$100 for the best cocksucker” right on the front page and I never signed up to go in and read ads. No warning page either. I remember when sites began putting up the warnings. Hosts were shutting down sites without them. Thinking back, it was around the time Traci Llords fucked us up and brought 18 USC 2257 upon us. Nowadays you see few sites referencing that law but I remember how many sites shut down. Oh, the lawyers advertising themselves as keepers of record for $1,000/year I’m sure it’s in the archives here, the panic, fear and hosts dropping sites.

Ahh the good ol’ days ...

When people get into the porn industry, they have to accept they are not going to be given a free ride by any Government.

tony286 04-09-2018 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22250544)
When people get into the porn industry, they have to accept they are not going to be given a free ride by any Government.

Not true, the problem is porners in the US really don't know the history. Why were all the old timers dems because they got arrested during gop admins.

Every internet porn person should end their evening prayers with thanking god for janet reno because it was her in the early days of the net, who decided going after adult porn was waste of resources

The dems aren't our friends but they have better things to do and they don't need the christian rights vote.

This bill was introduced by the portman(gop) and some other gop lady added the escort sites feature. As far as well they all voted for it. If you are a politician are you going to vote against a bill in name says it protects kids from sex trafficking? Its career death. The difference is the dems never would of brought it up,this country has bigger fish to fry.

CaptainHowdy 04-09-2018 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 22250215)
Craigslist personals and Backpage down at the same time. Would say odds are high in a few weeks you'll find hookers standing by your car door offering to swallow the goo for $20 and 3 cigarettes. :winkwink:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...WGb6zJmD3VPlsw

Paul Markham 04-09-2018 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22250565)
Not true, the problem is porners in the US really don't know the history. Why were all the old timers dems because they got arrested during gop admins.

Every internet porn person should end their evening prayers with thanking god for janet reno because it was her in the early days of the net, who decided going after adult porn was waste of resources

The dems aren't our friends but they have better things to do and they don't need the christian rights vote.

This bill was introduced by the portman(gop) and some other gop lady added the escort sites feature. As far as well they all voted for it. If you are a politician are you going to vote against a bill in name says it protects kids from sex trafficking? Its career death. The difference is the dems never would of brought it up,this country has bigger fish to fry.

So during the time the Democrats are in power. Porn has had no government closures?

Just accept you're in the porn business and we all are under pressure. You should live in the UK prior to the Internet to know what real pressure is about. It's one of the reason I got out.


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