You're changing the subject.

A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law.

B) I was addressing platforms folding, not giving a fuck about their users or even trying to fight for their freedom of speech, Craigslist as an example.

C) When you purposely confuse issues because you're a porn attorney, and defend Trump daily, and he's putting people out of business in our industry, you look like a fucking moron.

D) Try addressing what I actually say instead if confusing issues and wasting my time to set you straight and the readers time, you don't do anyone any favors especially yourself.

Most ads on the platforms that closed were free Paul. Jesus fucking Christ it's the blind leading the blind with these fucking moron Trump supporters who work in our industry. Paul doesn't work though, but he supports Trump and hates the porn industry since he stopped being able to make money in it, he'd love to see the rest of us left fail.

No one can make you fail except yourself. Haters always gonna hate. Focus on your own shit instead of pointing fingers. That goes for everyone not just you. It's not "the law" or Trump or Obama or this or that excuse. Obviously people still make millions in the Adult Industry. This nonsense with Backpage won't mean shit in the long run. Backpage is an easy target, as was Craig's List. Mongers will know where to find the whores I would not worry about them.

Spend more time researching and less time posting...

2010 – Craigslist.com – Craigslist Closes Its Sex-Related Ad Section - The New York Times

2011 – Escorts.com – https://domaininvesting.com/escorts-...1-advertising/

2014 – Redbook.com – https://www.wired.com/2015/02/redbook/

2015 – RentBoy.com – https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/n...-sex-work.html

2016 – TheReviewBoard.com – https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

2016 – Backpage.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/31/ca...harris-pimping

2017 – Eros.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/er...meland-securit

Its been going on for 8 years...

This site is the only one that have a CRAZY SCREENING process for their advertiser.
Not sure if he will shut down but is the only one i know who are crazy with the screening and talk directly to the service provider in question who put up the ad.
Back then it was that way lol.

FOSTA to be signed on Wednesday by Trump...

https://www.axios.com/newsletters/ax...organic#story4

I guess this kills more people than guns.

Makes sense

Great research. I told a friend last night that this can’t be the first site shutdown nor will it be the last. It’s just not heavily covered by the media until now. I’m wrong to blame Trump solely.

I visited one site today for the first time. Blatant escort and hooker ads. Reviews like “$100 for the best cocksucker” right on the front page and I never signed up to go in and read ads. No warning page either. I remember when sites began putting up the warnings. Hosts were shutting down sites without them. Thinking back, it was around the time Traci Llords fucked us up and brought 18 USC 2257 upon us. Nowadays you see few sites referencing that law but I remember how many sites shut down. Oh, the lawyers advertising themselves as keepers of record for $1,000/year I’m sure it’s in the archives here, the panic, fear and hosts dropping sites.

Ahh the good ol’ days ...

Typical... A-D and you pick the easiest to address lazy boy :evil-laug

HB-1865 is not law yet!

I said "A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law."

So you post a bunch of cases over the last 8 years that have nothing to do with HB-1865 being law.

Why?

We did great profits from Backpage. We pull in 20K a month a month on backpage and what some of you didn't know since no one in this thread has mentioned is that Backpage had a sister site that not alot of people knew about PostFastr.com and we pulled another 5-7K a month on it too. I am not going to lie and say it doesn't suck when I just lost 25-27K revenue but it is what it is.

To be honest, we could see it coming, when credit card companies started to refuse processing payments on the Backpage, it was imminent that backpage was going to be shut down at some point. The US gov't doesn't like a US company making 150M tax free revenue a year and not being able to tax a penny of it because Backpage owners had their liquid assets in Bitcoin.

For anyone not knowing about Postfastr, it was created by Backpage as a means to accept credit card payments. It looked exactly like the Backpage site but with a yellow and black color scheme instead of the light blue scheme. Same setup and everything. Backpage couldn't accept credit cards. But Postfastr was able to. The trick was that when you paid for credits on your Postfastr account, magically, Postfastr would deposit those same credits in both your Backpage and Postfastr accounts. They found a way to circumvent credit card companies not processing for Backpage. Then a few months ago, the US gov't caught wind of the trick, and Postfastr was no longer accepting credit card payments. So as you can see, we knew it was coming...

But how did you make so much $ on Backpage a month?
Ads for Oily Asses? LOL

haha no :1orglaugh. We facilitated payments. We worked with the service providers who didn't use bitcoin but wanted to pay with their credit card or cash, they would pay us, we took a nominal % and deposited credits into their accounts. :)

Okay lets just ignore all of the escorting sites that have been shut down without FOSTA over the past 8 years and pretend it didnt happen...

Perhaps what you meant to say was "A) The government hasnt gone after anyone with HR-1865 yet, its not even a fucking law."

Does that better support your argument.

I know facts dont count with you but at least the way you word your arguments should.

BTW its HR not HB

Now what are you going to do when -- and this is a real possibility -- Trump and the GOP controlled DOJ DONT actually prosecute anyone with HR 1865?

This law is so poorly written and overly broad it probably wont withstand judicial review. So perhaps they will never go after anyone with FOSTA and will just use it like 18 USC 2257 to scare people.

Oh gotcha. :) Nice move! I should get in on that "I'll just take a wee % to help you move money around" game. :thumbsup

So Backpage will be back then?

Backpage wont be prosecuted under FOSTA. Even if FOSTA gets enjoined by some chance, Backpage will still be prosecuted under the old laws. Its gone and its not coming back. Thats why they hit them before FOSTA.

So is publishing free ads illegal?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...ion-ads-507343

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ges/495701002/

As some people have been charged I would say they were breaking some laws allegedly.


The problem with the Internet is it is like trying to turn back the tide. Loads of other places people will look.

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&e....0.mNG14u1iniM

When people get into the porn industry, they have to accept they are not going to be given a free ride by any Government.

Not true, the problem is porners in the US really don't know the history. Why were all the old timers dems because they got arrested during gop admins.

Every internet porn person should end their evening prayers with thanking god for janet reno because it was her in the early days of the net, who decided going after adult porn was waste of resources

The dems aren't our friends but they have better things to do and they don't need the christian rights vote.

This bill was introduced by the portman(gop) and some other gop lady added the escort sites feature. As far as well they all voted for it. If you are a politician are you going to vote against a bill in name says it protects kids from sex trafficking? Its career death. The difference is the dems never would of brought it up,this country has bigger fish to fry.

So during the time the Democrats are in power. Porn has had no government closures?

Just accept you're in the porn business and we all are under pressure. You should live in the UK prior to the Internet to know what real pressure is about. It's one of the reason I got out.

A hunnerd backpages!

Here's the 93 count, 61 page indictment if anyone wants to read it...

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-Backpage.html

I just downloaded this, to read carefully later. The first thing I noticed is C.F. is not named as a Defendant. Can it be assumed that Carl is a cooperating witness for the US govt?

PS. Thanks for sharing the link Michael.

This all comes from Jeff Sessions.

Thanks Trump!

If what’s claimed is true, then their “police” on the site didn’t do their job. Claims are children were used in ads for video making, prostitution and sex with runaways.

I condone legal prostitution for those over 21 only. Adults in ads only.

I read 25% of it so far. So far the lesson is don’t put in writing what you can say in a meeting. In 2011 they were warned but ignored the warnings and purposely allowed underaged girls to run Lolita ads. Their crew in India tried hard to comply but didn’t have a lot of guidance.

They nailed themselves with emails acknowledging prostitution. I’ve got more reading to do!

This indictment is a guide of what NOT to do while running illegal or questionable sites. Seriously. Every porn site owner needs to read it. Email & text isn’t the way to communicate.

SHOCK: Women’s March Supports Sex Trafficking, Child Prostitution Website

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