Bump for a great thread

the money is in all of that and more.
the only problem in an industry like ours is that we have a funny effect what i gave the name "seesaw effect".

imagine 5 kids on a seesaw 2 of them sitting on one side and the other 3 on the opposite side.
the 3 kids on the left side see that the 2 on the right side are high up in the air and they decide to move also to the right side.
imagine what will happen......

regarding your other argument "what is good money" really depends on personal life quality. but I would not even nail that on the amount of money. for me "good money" is when I made the maximum what is possible with my hands, my brain, my time and my skills. if this is less than average i would do something else. if it is over average and pays my life standard or even more i call it "good money".

if someone is really a business man from his heart he will see money anyway like a singer his applause.

Theres a ton of money to be made if your name happens to be Michael Avenatti

Hah very true, the money is dictated at wherever the big players decide to invest it. Can change at anytime. Smaller guys were phased out and no longer have the money to get anything going so its up to pornhub/blacked to dictate where they see themselves getting the most money from. That's not to say paysites can't make them alot of money but if they decide to invest into 3d, thats only because it will make THEM more than paysites would.

I personally believe ModelCentro knew big paysites could make them alot of money but they see ModelCentro/FanCentro as being a better profit margin. Software developers are cheaper than Models & Producers

So that goes to show you, nobody being involved in paysites is only evident of where the big players are deciding to go.

We have the same definition of "good money". :thumbsup

So all advertising is bigger than porn and porn is bigger than porn adverting.

You know.

What do you do to encourage that?

Solo girls promoting themselves have been doing it for years.

I have always supported solo girls promoting themselves.

To anyone coming into the porn industry now, expect the going to be tough. The traffic is on free sites and the conversion rate is poor, very poor. You are competing with the biggest tubes and when a guy falls in love with a girl getting banged, you're clutching at straws. Guys don't normally fall in love with girls fucking someone else.

Then there are the bigger porn sites who probably have the girl, the better shooters, better cameras and 1,000s of affiliates.


Go mainstream.

@emmasexytime, congrats your directory looks nice. I m doing cams for 15 years if you would like to mastermind write me I 'll be glad to share.

Could you advise a good webcam? chaturbate?
I've never worked with cams before.

Do it the easy way : SEE SIG!

:2 cents:

Or see my sig. I have proof of Awempire and chaturbate sales. :)

how can you know ?
did you try it and if yes HOW did you try it ?

I am pretty sure that you do not have the smallest clue how to advertise, how to messure, how to control and how to optimize.

professionality is here ALSO the magic word and the one who is not a professional advertiser will not be able to make money. and you know why? because he is not able to pay the same price as the ones what are professional and buy all this traffic for a MUCH higher price as he can.
these are the rules of the market - there is no exception for amateurs.

loooool - that means all this camsites and amateursites are financed from who ???


and this is exactly what makes it to a one under thousand under the roof of a big brand.
but nobody buys a brand in porn.

we already do paul - you just missed this point.
we already make a lot of money with promoting products on porn sites what did not advertise there in the times of the dinosaurs.
but times have changed.

just today I got a nice offer from a very well known international nonadult company SEEKING porn traffic and spend for a first 2-week-test 30.000 €.and as they are calculating with a lifetime value per user what is 100 times higher as the value such a user would have on a porn site they can pay a much higher price than any porn product would be able to pay.

so tell me WHY should i sell a click for 2 cent to a porn product when I can sell the same click for 25-30 cent ?

Honestly, you have to test some sponsors yourself, because every site is different so results vary. Take a look at mradultaffiliate.com for some information as well. I wish you best.

:thumbsup :pimp

Thanks you :thumbsup

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