Trump has advisors ... lol .....

Rudy ?

He said from day one that it was an awfull deal .... advisors ... lol ?????



REALLY !!!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Trump had no intention in signing any deals, he made that clear while running as a candidate, its been reinforced with Kerry being in Iran in the past few weeks trying to save the deal, had of Trump had people on the ground doing the same.. Kerry would be getting meetings with no one. Trump wasn't even attempting to patch it.

Its war or nothing with him.

Donald Trump plays a zero-sum game. His idea of a good deal is one where he gets everything and the other side gets nothing. This is why he runs his businesses into the ground and stiffs people everyone he goes.


This motherfucker can't make one good decision.

I need to jump in more of these threads, these are where all the money is, right? Do I earn even more for starting a ton of them every day? Who has a reflink?

fuck that treaty..."please dont have what we have so we can invade LOL"...what a bunch of hypocrites...dudes drop 2 nukes on citizens who posed no danger to the USA but would not bend the knee...drop more bombs on one country than all WW combined...use chemicals on civilians for 10 years...dude, small countries need nukes to protect themselves from you guys :2 cents::2 cents:

anyway a treaty with the USA does not mean shit...the US gov is a criminal cartel who operates a global protection racket...it is the cancer of mankind holding us from developing so that a select few can make war profits...WW2 germany and the USA have traded places...geramany is now the leader of the free world and the USA is outdoing the roman empire in invasion...

america expecting somebody to not nuke up is hilarious...stay home invader :2 cents::thumbsup

Yes he does, they're called Fox News

NK would be stupid to sign an agreement with Chump now. He has set a precedent for future presidents. If you don't like a deal reached by a previous president, void it!

NK can negotiate and then say no thanks, USA doesn't honor it's agreements
Chump loves to undo things without having any plans to fix it or make it better.

And so it begins..

An Iranian military base in Syria was attacked on Tuesday, Syrian TV reported that it was an Israeli airstrike and that Syrian air defence systems shot down two missiles.

Iran military base in Syria attacked, sources say | Fox News

The overwhelming majority of the world did not sign the agreement with Iran. Out of only one hundred and ninety-three countries, only China, France, Germany, Iran, United States, Russia, United Kingdom, and the European Union signed the agreement.

The only two things we can do to stop a country from getting nuclear weapons is to impose sanctions or go to war. Sanctions failed to work with North Korea, and we were unwilling to go to war with them to prevent them from getting nuclear weapons - which they now have.

Has anyone noticed yet that Donald Trump hasn't actually made any deals since he's been president? He seems to be good at killing Barack Obama's deals, but that's about it.

I saw that Kerry was in Iran working on this, and was surprised by it. Is he there representing the US government?

Says the guy with multiple fake nics, lies in every thread, multiple times, and is a paid shill.

He does seem to have an obsession with it. It feels like the current Republican leadership governs by looking at things and saying, "If it will piss of liberals, we will do it." They also say, "If Obama had something to do with it, we will destroy it."

It reminds me of some third world countries where a new leader takes over and does everything in their power to make it look like the previous leaders never existed.

Your response has little if anything to do with what I said but that is OK Marine.

No and the Donald told him to step out.

No he wasn't, Team Trump had no one on the ground and no intention of fixing or patching the deal that took 10 years to get implemented. Kerry was trying to starve off ww3 and Trumps dead set on beginning it.

Iran has made it clear they don't give a fuck about sanctions or renegotiating any deals.

It all hangs now on if other counties are going to say fuck the USA we will trade with them anyways.

Iran has said if that doesn't happen they will start spinning weapons grade uranium again, 6-12 months for them to have enough to start arming weapons.. however their finance minster was in North Korea last week ;)

USA and Israel won't like any of that, so basically ya got 6-12 months to invade.

Its not something that's going to be renegotiated, 30 days for Trump to flip or other countries to step in, count down has started.

We're not going to invade Iran. Let's all relax.

It's like a house filled with old women in this place. I wish I had been here to see what was being said about the North Korea stuff last year - I bet it was more of the same.

Soon, Iran will be free of their shitty regime. End of lesson.

Most of you are not ready to hear or see it - understandable.

Thread bookmarked for future bragging rights.

No, because that's false. Please get informed before commenting :1orglaugh


No, he is in violation of the Logan Act and should be arrested.


HUH? The deal allowed Iran to have nukes. Trump is against that plan. You're delusional.

:pimp

You can't relax based on what both sides are currently saying.

Trump want's to break the deal, Iran has said they've no intention of renegotiating it. Iran also said today if sanctions return, they'll start spinning weapons grade uranium again. By the time any sanctions bite the economy, Iran will have enough to start making weapons. Trumps said he wants to start sanctions in 30 days.

USA can invade Iran or Israel is going to be erased from the map.

Israel can do its own erasing and has stated more than once that if Israel is doomed it will take the world out with it. Strong words but I have a tendency to accept that statement at face value or at least think they will try to carry that out to the very best of their ability.

He violated the terms of the agreement, just like the loser he is who went bankrupt 5 times.

The other countries are still in the agreement, it's not like it ends because Trump pulls out his shriveled dick :2 cents:

Trump saids a million times that he doesn't believe in letting the enemy know what's going to happen in advance, but here he is telling thrm in advance what he's going to do just like he did with North Korea just like he did with Syria just like he did with Russia. Fucking lying dotard.

Highly unlikely. Look, I know USA has some things to sort out these days and we're not currently led by the best people, a lot of us know that. But have some faith, we've had rough patches and poor leaders before and we made it through those tough times.

And I'm not too terribly concerned with the nk nuclear arsenal. It's certainly not a serious threat of harm, combined with the peace process between the koreas, I'm pretty relaxed about it. there will be peace in korea and nk settling down, in spite of trump.

Barack Obama

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama...55854913976749

"Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East."

I don't believe a nuclear armed Iran is an option because of who they're going to target, and the power that country has controlling your own government, Republican or Democrat.

Which leaves?

I didn't know we were talking about war in the middle east in general at some point. Sure anything can happen and I'd bet there will be plenty of warring in the me in the future. You stated that the US will invade Iran.. and soon. That's a lot different and something I think is highly unlikely. Also, trump just shot himself in the foot nuking the deal, he'll never get a coalition together to make that happen, as mentioned earlier, he's no deal maker. he's a deal breaker.

Too many things stand in the way of a US invasion of Iran.

We are all 100% fucked.

Its not what stands in the way of the USA, but what's now standing in the way of Iran acquiring nukes. Then at what stage of that development do other countries step in to delay it. No treaty means no inspectors, no one they can all get the fuck out and have no right to be there any more. All indications are Iran could spinup weaponised uranium in 6-12 months.

30 days time line to change that scenario.

I don't like any of that either. But the US would never invade iran over any of that. It would take Iran building and launching a nuke for us to invade them.

Getting out of the IRAN deal that NATO approved and all of the allies approved.

Great idea indeed.

Iran directly blame Israel for their issues, Israel is the primary target for them, Israel currently believes Iran is making weapons grade uranium. With no treaty, they certainly will be. Despite having a better equipped military Israel is still a small country in comparison, Israel 8 million : Iran 80 million.

Israel can't fight this alone, Israel can't risk Iran having nukes. Before any sanctions cause damage.. Iran will have nukes.


Black Jack Foley once said:

A teacher holds a stick and says to the student,

"If you tell me this stick is real, I'll beat you with it"
"If you tell me this stick is not real, I'll beat you with it"
"If you say anything else or nothing, I'll beat you with it"

The student thinks a bit, then reaches out grabs the stick and breaks it.

Sometimes you need to break the stick.

Trump is the stick.. 30 days

Lot of simplistic, one sided views.

The deal was struck the way it could not stand in the long term. The Islamic republic of Iran (this is the official name) has a lot of disturbing things in its charter alone. One would need to understand the meaning of treaty in Islam to be able to interpret such deal, a treaty is only valid as long as it's convenient for the Islamic party, as long as the Islamic party is not strong enough, in a position to break it.

Don't confuse Iran (as a historically Persian territory and people) with the Islamic republic of Iran. The deal was struck with the Islamic republic of Iran. The Islamic republic of Iran (Islamic theocracy) is not a reliable partner, its only (and a major) value is as a counter force to the Sunni expansionism.

One of the primary reasons for the recent riots and protests in Iran (which were of course completely omitted and downplayed by our mainstream media not to "offend" the Islamic regime) was that the actual population of Iran saw exactly zero from the funds that were released by the Obama regime. It certainly helped to strenghten the regime and its armed forces, and make any prospect of change way less likely though.

Alternative for the nuclear deal will be war with Iran or nuclear Iran or sign a new deal.

In NK's case I suspect it's more like 'Tell him what he want's to hear and with any luck it will shut him up for a while'...

this is not hard. everybody in the fucking world knows more than this amateur economist and professional liar.

Tell your nurse to read you the numbers of today.

oil is 2,9% up and now guess where the DOW will go with such an oil price.

Oil Futures Rebound After Trump’s Plan to Reinstate Sanctions on Iran
U.S. sanctions could reduce global crude supply
https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-fut...ata-1525834122

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Netanyahu in Moscow now.

the international atomic energy agency made 10 inspections and has confirmed 10 times that Iran fully complies with all requirements.

so far, rouhani's opinion of the EU is more important and will continue to abide by the treaty. if the EU agrees to the sanctions, the whole thing is really dangerous. because if iran attacking israel, the arab world would put itself at the side of iran. the usa would have to put itself on the side of isreal and thus would mean a real war between the muslim world and the west.

as the arab world would not be able to win such a war on a conventional way it would be a war based on terror as we have never seen it before.

good ole USIS...


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