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thommy 05-10-2018 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22267038)
That is what we are paying ... The only implication ( don't be so defensive , not everything is related to your emperor ) is that if the barrel goes up, the price at the pump will also ....

But I could be wrong ... maybe it will go down .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

|Note: since january 2018 , it went up 40 % .

the price on the pump is only ONE effect what will be negative on longer term.

1. if the price for oil is high it means that there is a high demand - many people want it and as it is sold in US many people will buy dollars. if many people buy dollars the dollar will go up.

2. a strong dollar is bad for the exports. us have already a negative trade balance because nobody buys from US on a strong dollar.

3. as gasoline prices are part of the inflation calculation it means that inflation will increase. to keep the inflation low the national bank have to increase the interest rate.

4. a high interest rate will hit the companies because they have to pay more for lending money and that will decrease their profit.

5. if profit goes down the stocks will fall. and as the majority of americans have their pension in stocks their pension will fall because they do not profit from higher interest they get hit from it.

the result of all that you will not see right away - it is a longterm effect what needs also a long long time to be fixed once it is notable.

Steve Rupe 05-10-2018 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22267104)
Nuking up is a good way...keeps the Invaders away...

In your mind it does. In reality it doesn't. A nuke is not and end all. Specifically a singular nuke or a few nukes. The US has detonated over two hundred airburst nukes over the US. We are still here. We have thousands of cities. The loss of a couple of cities is not an end all.

dyna mo 05-10-2018 08:53 AM

In reality, "nuking up is a good way" for a nation to bankrupt itself and starve its citizens.

TheSquealer 05-10-2018 09:48 AM

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pimpmaster9000 05-10-2018 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22267459)
In your mind it does. In reality it doesn't. A nuke is not and end all. Specifically a singular nuke or a few nukes. The US has detonated over two hundred airburst nukes over the US. We are still here. We have thousands of cities. The loss of a couple of cities is not an end all.

technology is still young...you do not know what the next 20-30-40 years will bring...3d printed flesh eating bacteria?...

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22267459)

In reality, "nuking up is a good way" for a nation to bankrupt itself and starve its citizens.


well you either bankrupt yourself through nuking up or the invaders bankrupt you with their "liberation" and "Democracy"...not to quote movies but it is better to die standing on your feet than live on your knees...one day the weak countries will have the "off" switch to life on earth and invaders will be forced to leave them alone...

Sarn 05-10-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22267453)
the price on the pump is only ONE effect what will be negative on longer term.

1. if the price for oil is high it means that there is a high demand - many people want it and as it is sold in US many people will buy dollars. if many people buy dollars the dollar will go up.

2. a strong dollar is bad for the exports. us have already a negative trade balance because nobody buys from US on a strong dollar.

3. as gasoline prices are part of the inflation calculation it means that inflation will increase. to keep the inflation low the national bank have to increase the interest rate.

4. a high interest rate will hit the companies because they have to pay more for lending money and that will decrease their profit.

5. if profit goes down the stocks will fall. and as the majority of americans have their pension in stocks their pension will fall because they do not profit from higher interest they get hit from it.

the result of all that you will not see right away - it is a longterm effect what needs also a long long time to be fixed once it is notable.

increase the rate will rise inflation comrade because expensive moni will be add in price, for getting low inflation required downing rate

Putin: Russia Looks To Get Free Of U.S. Dollar ‘Burden’ In Oil Trade
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-N...Oil-Trade.html

Trump Iran sanctions just gave Saudi Arabia and Russia more clout in the oil market, so watch for higher prices
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/09/trum...ore-clout.html

https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnb...36.530x298.jpg
:1orglaugh

Sarn 05-11-2018 12:14 AM

Oil prices could hit $100 a barrel next year, Bank of America says
Bank of America: World oil price could hit $100 a barrel next year

Oil prices risk spiking to $100 next year, Bank of America analysts say
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/10/oil-...lysts-say.html

Oil at $100 Is a Possibility Next Year, Bank of America Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...f-america-says

Grapesoda 05-11-2018 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22266302)
I have no idea how I feel about this. With the deal in place at least we had inspections. I know Israel claims they have proof but I haven't seen any of it.

I still maintain that one country cannot tell another country they cannot have nuclear weapons. Does the United States have the right to say "Iran cannot have nuclear weapons"? No, we cannot. Same with North Korea. The United States - the only country who has ever used nuclear weapons - cannot tell other countries they cannot have the same weapons everyone else has.

We told North Korea they could not have nuclear weapons, and now they do. What's changed? Nothing. Nothing at all.

inspection never slowed the irains down and every seems to know that but you and Obama and maybe Hillary...

Grapesoda 05-11-2018 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22267880)
Oil prices could hit $100 a barrel next year, Bank of America says
Bank of America: World oil price could hit $100 a barrel next year

Oil prices risk spiking to $100 next year, Bank of America analysts say
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/10/oil-...lysts-say.html

Oil at $100 Is a Possibility Next Year, Bank of America Says
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...f-america-says

yep keep talking about trump pussy habit and oil will go sky high... because that is what's happening...

Matt-ADX 05-11-2018 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22266302)
I have no idea how I feel about this. With the deal in place at least we had inspections. I know Israel claims they have proof but I haven't seen any of it.

I still maintain that one country cannot tell another country they cannot have nuclear weapons. Does the United States have the right to say "Iran cannot have nuclear weapons"? No, we cannot. Same with North Korea. The United States - the only country who has ever used nuclear weapons - cannot tell other countries they cannot have the same weapons everyone else has.

We told North Korea they could not have nuclear weapons, and now they do. What's changed? Nothing. Nothing at all.

No you didn't

Sarn 05-11-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22268029)
yep keep talking about trump pussy habit and oil will go sky high... because that is what's happening...

The USA extract shale oil and it has a bigger cost price and wanna more big oil prices.


U.S. Will Be the World’s Largest Oil Producer by 2023, Says IEA
Influence on global oil markets is also expected to rise, with U.S. oil exports more than doubling
The U.S. is likely to overtake Russia to become the world’s largest oil producer by 2023, accounting for most of the global growth in petroleum supplies, a top industry monitor said Monday.
U.S. crude production is expected to reach a record of 12.1 million barrels a day in 2023, up from 10.6 million a day this year, said the International Energy Agency, which advises governments and corporations on industry trends. American oil output will surge past Russia, currently the world’s largest crude producer at roughly 11 million barrels a day.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-wil...iea-1520236810


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