well, he does like chaos ....

As much as Trump has to appease his base, Kim has to do the same

There's no surprises here, war games were planned well in advance and delayed, NK was fully informed and also said it was ok.

Kim needs to keep his hardliners happy.

Trump needs to accept NK as a nuclear power, send them a few trillion in cash and pull back sanctions so South Korea and China can trade with them.

Kim needs to stop his weapon building, hand over all his nukes, chemical and biological weapons and allow a few thousands inspectors in to review and monitor every military operation he has.

Neither will fully happen, so far Kim has offered to stop testing weapons he has tested and Trump has offered to put a McDonalds and Starbucks on every street corner.

Politically KIM by FAR has the upper hand. Both leaders have shown they don't give a fuck about their countries population or welfare.

Trump wants votes, Kim wants money and one thing we all understand about American politics.. they will pay what is needed for those votes.

Submit and accept NK as a nuclear power.

Your critique is not correct it its entirety.

Ha. That's a pretty good post really.

This is a negotiation - a difficult one. This is not Trump's world, it's not the kind of negotiation Trump is used to. In Trump's world it's two business people who want to do business with each other, and have common goals. This is the direct opposite. This is two groups of people who want direct opposite things.

Whatever. This is just comical to watch.

Just read that Kim Jong Un has said he will not agree to a deal where he has to give up his nukes. I can't imagine a deal worth a shit being made that includes him getting to keep them.

This is over before it ever started.

The dream that it was a deal, done 'n dusted that suited all involved.. was only a dream.
However the mere fact we have all parties involved at the negotiating table in itself is a HUGE step.

No one is going to get what they want, but reality is even the smallest of steps, is a HUGE advance.

Trump can't invade Nth Korea without significant risk to Americans and allies in the area, let alone the reaction from China and Russia. Trumps already thrown everything he can at Nth Korea.. sanctions.

Kim has Dotard by the Gonads, because Dotard needs this as a political win... Kim certainly doesn't, he's actually got more explaining to do if he accepts it.

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North Koreans are convinced that South Korea is going to join with them and their wealth is going to flow in, which combined with the Norths Military clout will make Korea.. one of the most powerful counties on the planet.

(Adds "evil snicker")

With the Rodong Sinmun in reach, more North Koreans are talking international relations- Daily NK

“The nuclear weapons were being developed while we starved, so there is widespread suspicion over why the government has decided to abandon them,” said a source in South Hamgyong Province. “Most North Koreans want a unified Korea to combine North Korea’s nuclear weapons with South Korea’s strong economy.” The source further said that, “There have been no proper explanations given about denuclearization and so there are many who are wondering why North Korea needs to get rid of them.

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If Kim was to sign... I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest that when he returns to NK he's executed on the spot. We better hope the military have a planD for that one.

Kim went to South Korea and started negotiations, one of the main lollipops SthKorea/ USA can offer is investment in the North. All was smiles many hand shakes and photos taken, then everyone went home. Western media reported Triumphs , Give Trump the Nobel Peace prize!!!.

This is what Kim did on return...

North Korean authorities form new group to block foreign influence- Daily NK

After the April 27 Moon-Kim Summit, an inspection unit has been formed by the North Korean authorities with the pretext of blocking “capitalist phenomenon”, tasked with conducting wide scale crackdowns.

During a telephone call with Daily NK on May 4, an inside source from South Pyongan Province said, “The unit (tasked with rooting out 'anti-socialist' activity) was formed by the central authorities and has become quite active recently. The unit is evaluating people's clothes and hairdos, engaging in fierce reprimands.”

“There are units sent down to the provincial level from the Central Party authorities,” the source explained. “Within the provincial level, there are units formed within the regional People’s Committees Ministry of State Security offices, police stations, and legal offices. They have all been given licenses to conduct censorship. On a white piece of paper, 20 centimeters by 10 centimeters, is red writing that permits the holder to engage in crackdowns against any type of antisocial behavior.”

The "anti-socialist unit" located within the Central Party has nearly unlimited authority to question the residents’ appearance and control the spread of capitalism thinking and trends. They are not just evaluating individuals. They are also observing the goods produced by enterprises and severely cracking down, according to a source in North Pyongan Province.

“This unit very carefully inspects all the contents of one’s bags and belongings. If there are any illegal items found, they are unconditionally confiscated. For example, if someone has a tire that can’t be produced in North Korea, the unit officers will ask, where did you get this? Or, where are you sending this? If you don’t have a receipt or an invoice, it is considered illegal and confiscated," he said.

If personal or corporate property has foreign language writing on it, it is judged to be "anti-socialist" and can therefore be confiscated.

“The Party has invested the unit with wide authorities, giving it the power to go into the markets and the factory enterprises. But they technically can’t go into private homes unless people report suspicious activity first,” the North Pyongan Province-based source explained.

He added that before the units became active, notices were handed down that said, “If anyone is detected with the following, they must be unconditionally reported: clothing that's not in our style, hairdos that aren't in our style, foreign songs, and language that is not ours.”

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winning right?

Chump isn't a negotiator and is desperate to get a deal with NK. If Chump knew some history he would know that this is how NK behaves!

Sorry, guys - I just don't buy the whole thing. Seems like part of the movie - feels very scripted. Time will tell. Thread bookmarked. :)

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Also...

Currently, the most powerful man on Earth.

So now North Korea is saying denuclearization is off the table.

If denuclearization is off the table, what's the point?

President Moon better get busy solving this. He's the only one responsible for what happens over there.

pooty > trump

:thumbsup

Debatable, but you would not agree if they both played by the same rules. :winkwink:

brinkmanship!


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Bolton = clown.
I knew when I watched his interview on Sunday there might be a problem with his "libya model".

He was never going to give up his nukes. The Nuke club is a good place to be. Trump gets praises people forgot many presidents have done this dance, its a focus because he really has done nothing else worth a shit to talk about. Its all smoke and mirrors.

that only makes sense to uneducated anti-american orphans.

Yeah, I can't stand that guy. Hopefully he's one of the asshole good guys in the movie.

get over it...pooty is the most powerful man in the world...trump is just a little bitch who has 1/3 of the power...look at pooty not giving a fuck:

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AHAHAHAHahAHAHAH

you keep thinking that, shell lobber.

trump is a little bitch who can not even get a wall built...pooty had a bad hair day and banned the gay parade for 100 years :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

that is true power...when you answer to nobody :thumbsup

not like your little bitch potuses and their little bitch congress :thumbsup

yes, we all know you're a hypocrite.

Look what happened in Libya to Muammar Gaddafi . There's no way Nk is going to denuclearize. Trump can swear up and down they aren't looking for regime change, but he and his people cannot be trusted. Who's to say the next president doesn't like the deal and cancels it.

Nukes means we won't fuck with the NK leader.

Are you not aware that this is breaking news and part of the negotiations going on currently ? Pompeo has been using diplomacy preceding the denuke summit.



"If Chairman Kim chooses the right path, there is a future brimming with peace and prosperity for the North Korean people," Mr Pompeo added.


IF.


His comments set a positive tone for the talks in the Asian city-state of Singapore on June 12

I've learned that Rochard is not exactly rational. Emotion over reason trips me out.

China wants One Belt One Road. They aren't going to let anything get in the way.

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See you in Singapore!

"Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN" there that clear everything up for you, Eddy breath the fresh air.. okay? the dems loose almost everything if NK settles with trump :winkwink:

I still get a good chuckle from his banter, this is one example of many

pretty stupid ...

Bolton: Hey Kim, want a deal like Kadaffi ?

Different people in charge this time. But he would be wise to be cautious.



And Ivanka is a ghoul? Sheesh.

LMAO. Yeah, that seems pretty consistent with his way of thinking.

I think NK is right to point it out. At the same time though, perhaps we've known all along that NK won't negotiate denuking at all, that would explain why we didn't stop our military exercises that were already happening. Why stop them if Un is still belligerent?

or trump and his team are completely obtuse to negotiating a deal.

or both i guess. ........

trump will do well. he has more in common with the NK guy than any other guys we have had dealing with him, and the deal will be brokered by china behind the scenes anyway.


so watch the china biz news for a clue on how that's going... see how trump stepped into save a Chinese telecommunication company? see? the dems are really crying about that..

President Trump says he's working with China to save ZTE

the dems suck HUGE FILTHY cock if trump seals this deal... OBAMA black man to save the world... blah blah blah and big ears never really accomplished anything except a war in the Ukraine and civil war in Syria


and that is NOT speculation on my part.... read the news.... trump know what the fuck he is doing the dems are trying to obfuscate all his accomplishments by yelling about trump cock... just like big ears was all about the gay athletes in the Olympics and did even give one hot shit about the Ukraine when Russia was moving on that... happened at the same time

I asked my account about that... his comment: Putin's cash is worthless outside of Russia.... interesting comment and my accountant is really sharp :winkwink:

I do read the news. That's evident.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-p...nment-partner/

it´s because Trump can´t be trusted & is happy to show corruption...

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:disgust


Trump ruins everything :(

Trump hasn't ruined anything, let alone everything.

hyperbole.

Coming to you live from the "It's true because it's a meme" camp...

of course it's not true.


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