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dyna mo 05-24-2018 06:53 PM

North Korea's Foreign Ministry released a statement this evening that they:
"reiterate to the US that we are willing to sit face to face at any time and in any way,"



that doesn't gibe with the conclusion of trump's breakup letter to Un:

"If you change your mind having to do with this most important summit, please do not hesitate to call me or write. The world, and North Korea in particular, has lost a great opportunity for lasting peace and great prosperity and wealth. This missed opportunity is a truly sad moment in history."

dyna mo 05-24-2018 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22275827)
he doesn't need nukes.

if he didn't need nukes, then why have him and his dad invested so much and sacrificed so many people for nukes over decades of nuke dev? Just to get nukes to give them up?

Phoenix 05-24-2018 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22275829)
if he didn't need nukes, then why have him and his dad invested so much and sacrificed so many people for nukes over decades of nuke dev? Just to get nukes to give them up?

Was a different time. He could get more people with his bio weapons. He has a shitload
Of missiles pointed at Seoul and incheon.

onwebcam 05-24-2018 08:44 PM

But I thought Kim cancelled last week? LOL Ya'll some suckers.

"North Korea says it is still willing to sit down for talks with the United States “at any time, at any format” after President Donald Trump abruptly canceled his planned summit with Kim Jong Un."

TheSquealer 05-24-2018 09:12 PM

Back in January, Democrats confidently predicted a "blue wave" would wipe out Republican control of Congress in this year's midterms -- as polls showed a massive lead for the party in the so-called generic ballot.

This forecast is looking less certain as that lead shrinks by the week, with one poll even showing Republicans on top.

The "generic" ballot asks voters which party they plan to support, without getting into specific candidates. As recently as April, a Reuters poll showed Democrats with a 13-point lead. Some Democrats cited various surveys, including a CNN poll in December that showed an 18-point lead, as proof that they'd at least claim the House in November.

“#Megatsunami next November,” predicted an excited Rep. Ted Lieu, D-Calif.

I learned a new word today: Megatsunami. As in, the 18 point lead Dems have in the generic ballot point to a Democratic #Megatsunami next November. https://t.co/gl5xSigoz4
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) December 20, 2017

But that lead has all but disappeared, with Reuters' latest poll showing a slight Republican edge of less than 2 percent. The trend is reflected in other polls. A CNN poll this month showed the Democratic lead at just 3 percent, down from 16 percent in February.

Acepimp 05-24-2018 09:21 PM

The clueless leftists spend all day bashing Trump.. and then:

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f0&oe=5B8D6F9B

Yet, a funny thing happened this evening. North Korea issued a statement saying it was regretful over the American decision and asked the U.S. to reconsider.

“We express our willingness to sit down face-to-face with the U.S. and resolve issues anytime and in any format,“ the conciliatory statement read. ”Our commitment to doing our best for the sake of peace and stability for the world and the Korean Peninsula remains unchanged, and we are open-minded in giving time and opportunity to the U.S.”

It seems the president’s gambit worked. What the media failed to acknowledge was that North Korea had been refusing to respond to U.S. diplomats who’d been trying to arrange the details of the June 12 summit. So Trump called it off, and in the process called Pyongyang’s bluff.

Whether or not it worked is still undetermined. But, for the first time in weeks, North Korea has responded. And it says it wants to negotiate.

The Art of the Deal.

:cool-smil

ruff 05-24-2018 09:22 PM

Some more of that there goddamn winning! Yee Haw!

Bladewire 05-24-2018 09:25 PM

Slow day for the resident GFY alt-right hate fake nic troll

GAMEFINEST 05-24-2018 09:37 PM

Trump makes NK look smart

Acepimp 05-24-2018 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22275872)
Slow day for the resident GFY alt-right hate fake nic troll

https://i.imgur.com/cIaExQC.gif

:1orglaugh

Diomed 05-24-2018 10:36 PM

SO many Bladewire's in this thread...

Edit to add..

Bladewire, if you continue to call everyone a fake nic (75% of the active board) while operating multiple fake nics I'm literally going to do exactly what you've been doing and post an "informative" paragraph directly under every single one of your posts when I see them.

Your choice.

Diomed 05-24-2018 10:43 PM

It is clear that the alt-left truly do suffer from that Trump disease (it's a real thing).

They are so disconnected they would rather see the US crumble rather than to make a single concession.

Why can't people ever un-fuck themselves out of the loop.

It's an epidemic, and not just with partisan politics.

Bladewire 05-24-2018 10:45 PM

Slow day for the resident GFY alt-right hate fake nic troll

Diomed 05-25-2018 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22275912)
Slow day for the resident GFY alt-right hate fake nic troll

Alright mate,

Time to go Bladewire on your ass. Shall I include your other "personas" in the group when I pull a Bladewire on ya Bladewire?

pimpmaster9000 05-25-2018 01:00 AM

I am always amused when he posts screenshots from his phone :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Acepimp 05-25-2018 05:38 AM

https://i.imgur.com/Pkr9Aab.jpg

^^ This is BladeLiar. He's a fake webmaster

:1orglaugh

2MuchMark 05-25-2018 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22275820)
Mark, you don't understand negotiations...
North Korea's Foreign Ministry released a statement this evening that they:
"reiterate to the US that we are willing to sit face to face at any time and in any way,"

It's the Art Of The Deal to walk away from the table. Just as Trump has been saying all along.

You wouldn't have even wrote this post if you would actually LISTEN to what the President is saying instead of hearing it through the prism of biased news channels who misrepresent everything that the President says and does.

Hi Robbie,

Trump canceled the meeting, and he didn't have to. No matter what, Trump should try his best to keep the meeting.

What deal? There is no deal yet. This isn't Trump walking away from any deal.

As for what he said on TV is nothing compared to his ridiculous letter. Did you read it?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd-A0yfVQAAyzKe.jpg:large

What a fucking clown he is. Did he really have to threaten again, and boast about his "Massive and powerful" nukes? Seriously. You know someone else wrote this letter, and you know Trump inserted that line. What a fucking child he is, omg..

onwebcam 05-25-2018 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22276044)
Hi Robbie,

Trump canceled the meeting, and he didn't have to. No matter what, Trump should try his best to keep the meeting.

What deal? There is no deal yet. This isn't Trump walking away from any deal.

As for what he said on TV is nothing compared to his ridiculous letter. Did you read it?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd-A0yfVQAAyzKe.jpg:large

What a fucking clown he is. Did he really have to threaten again, and boast about his "Massive and powerful" nukes? Seriously. You know someone else wrote this letter, and you know Trump inserted that line. What a fucking child he is, omg..

I take it you didn't notice he is responding to "tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement"

Matt-ADX 05-25-2018 07:06 AM

Mark you are aware that the US wants to enter the meeting with the Libyan style of demilitarization. Something that no damn foreign country wants given what happened to Ghaddafi. So if Kim doesn't even want to entertain that idea (which he said he does not) Trump only loses by taking a meeting and having Kim get a good photo op out of it.

So was there a deal? Yeah, get rid of your nukes or I won't meet you.

dyna mo 05-25-2018 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22276046)
I take it you didn't notice he is responding to "tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement"

that was due to Pence threatening the Libya model on NK if Un does not agree to a deal.

dyna mo 05-25-2018 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22276047)

So was there a deal? Yeah, get rid of your nukes or I won't meet you.

so much for trump's deal making prowess then eh.

Matt-ADX 05-25-2018 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22276056)
so much for trump's deal making prowess then eh.

Hmm, I think he got a lot. He got Un to go to SK, he got the hostages back, he got them to get rid of test sites. He canceled the meeting and Un still said he would like to kiss and make up. I don't know about you but to me it certainly looks like Trump has all the leverage.

beerptrol 05-25-2018 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22276056)
so much for trump's deal making prowess then eh.

The ghostwriter of The Art of The Deal said trump was a fraud!

dyna mo 05-25-2018 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22276058)
Hmm, I think he got a lot. He got Un to go to SK, he got the hostages back, he got them to get rid of test sites. He canceled the meeting and Un still said he would like to kiss and make up. I don't know about you but to me it certainly looks like Trump has all the leverage.

the deal was about denuking. that's it. the other stuff was fluff. NK won't denuke, regardless of kiss and makeup.

dyna mo 05-25-2018 07:49 AM

and no, he didn't get NK to get rid of their test sites. they were done testing and had already destroyed the test mountain with tests.

Matt-ADX 05-25-2018 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22276069)
the deal was about denuking. that's it. the other stuff was fluff. NK won't denuke, regardless of kiss and makeup.

So if that's what the deal was about and they won't can't you agree that him giving Kim the chance to get a photo op and use it for propaganda is a bad idea? Thus canceling the meeting was a good move?

dyna mo 05-25-2018 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22276085)
So if that's what the deal was about and they won't can't you agree that him giving Kim the chance to get a photo op and use it for propaganda is a bad idea? Thus canceling the meeting was a good move?

I'm not one of the ones that hoped trump didn't succeed. I'm one of the ones that hoped he would.

as for photo ops, Un's already been legitimized now as a world leader and he still has nukes. He's already gotten most if not all of what he wanted.

But yeah actually, canceling the meeting was a good move because nothing would have come out of it anyway. Un's intransigent on NK nukes. trump doesn't have the deal making skills to talk Un into getting rid of them.

2MuchMark 05-25-2018 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22276046)
I take it you didn't notice he is responding to "tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement"

Of course, but think about it: It shouldn't matter. It's just a statement. If Trump wasn't such a snowflake, he could just dismiss the statement.

My point is this: Trump has been handed a GOLDEN opportunity here: To meet with the leader of NK, something that no other president, like OBAMA, has had the chance to do. This right here would be historic enough. On top of that, Trump has the chance to reduce tensions and create peace.

Trump didn't create this - it was handed to him on a silver plate. All he has to do is be calm, and for fuck sakes just learn a show little basic diplomacy.

"Your recent comments aside I am looking forward to meeting with you and work together with you to reach a lasting peace together for our nations." - That's all he had to say.

Robbie 05-25-2018 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22276044)
Hi Robbie,

Trump canceled the meeting, and he didn't have to. No matter what, Trump should try his best to keep the meeting.

What deal? There is no deal yet. This isn't Trump walking away from any deal.

As for what he said on TV is nothing compared to his ridiculous letter. Did you read it?

What a fucking clown he is. Did he really have to threaten again, and boast about his "Massive and powerful" nukes? Seriously. You know someone else wrote this letter, and you know Trump inserted that line. What a fucking child he is, omg..

I suppose that partisanship is what defines what people see, hear, and think.

I watched the entire thing play out and saw it as masterful on Trump's part.

You get the same input and come out with he's a "fucking clown".

I think the difference is the prism that we are viewing info from. You take what CNN and MSNBC say as good news reporting. I look at them as completely biased and filtering everything through an anti-Trump bias.

Yes Mark...there is a NEGOTIATION. And you have to be willing to walk away from the table.
And of course there isn't a deal yet. That's what the negotiations are for.

And the build up to actually meeting is a vital part of any negotiation. It determines who is going to start out with leverage.

Trump has the leverage right off the bat because he is the President Of The United States. So you can't blame Kim Jung Un for trying to get leverage.

So he made the U.S. team sit in Singapore for 3 days and his team never showed up and went dark on all communication with them.
And then he made threats (again) to destroy the U.S. with nuclear weapons.

Then Trump said I'm sorry...but I'm canceling the summit.

THEN...North Korea did a 180 degree turn and released that statement last night with a peaceful tone.

As of today, Trump is saying the meeting MIGHT still happen.

Mark...to me that is a masterful piece of work by Trump. He is doing what nobody else has done.
You are a very smart guy...and to see you caught up in the hatred of Trump and be blinded shows me that it can happen to the smartest of people.

I don't mean that in a smart-ass way. I mean it very sincerely. This illogical hatred of Trump and denouncing of everything he does is affecting half the people.
Doesn't matter if you are dumb as a rock, or smart as a whip...the emotions of it seem to blind people to the truth.

Matt-ADX 05-25-2018 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22276091)
trump doesn't have the deal making skills to talk Un into getting rid of them.

I don't think anyone has that ability. What happened in Libya is now on the mind of every dictator in the world. He gave up his nukes and the US and Europe fucked him.

dyna mo 05-25-2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22276097)
I don't think anyone has that ability. What happened in Libya is now on the mind of every dictator in the world. He gave up his nukes and the US and Europe fucked him.

You are probably right. trump's over his head.


canceling the iran deal didn't help the sitch either. that's about as smart a negotiating tactic as the move of the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem during middle east peace talks.


there's no art to see here.

Matt-ADX 05-25-2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22276094)
Of course, but think about it: It shouldn't matter. It's just a statement. If Trump wasn't such a snowflake, he could just dismiss the statement.

My point is this: Trump has been handed a GOLDEN opportunity here: To meet with the leader of NK, something that no other president, like OBAMA, has had the chance to do. This right here would be historic enough. On top of that, Trump has the chance to reduce tensions and create peace.

Trump didn't create this - it was handed to him on a silver plate. All he has to do is be calm, and for fuck sakes just learn a show little basic diplomacy.

"Your recent comments aside I am looking forward to meeting with you and work together with you to reach a lasting peace together for our nations." - That's all he had to say.

Kim Jong Un is more desperate to meet Trump than Trump is to meet him. The guy has said time and time again he isn't going to pull an Obama, make a deal just to make a deal (see Iran) The meeting will still happen and it will be on his terms and when he wants.

When he first said he was meeting Un you and your CNN cronies said how it was reckless of him and that now it made NK legit on the world stage. Trump leverages this upcoming meeting to get some things he wanted and then backs out when he gets them and now you and CNN shit on him for ruining a chance at peace.

Get your narrative together.

Rochard 05-25-2018 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22276095)
I suppose that partisanship is what defines what people see, hear, and think.

I watched the entire thing play out and saw it as masterful on Trump's part.

You get the same input and come out with he's a "fucking clown".

I think the difference is the prism that we are viewing info from. You take what CNN and MSNBC say as good news reporting. I look at them as completely biased and filtering everything through an anti-Trump bias.

Yes Mark...there is a NEGOTIATION. And you have to be willing to walk away from the table.
And of course there isn't a deal yet. That's what the negotiations are for.

And the build up to actually meeting is a vital part of any negotiation. It determines who is going to start out with leverage.

Trump has the leverage right off the bat because he is the President Of The United States. So you can't blame Kim Jung Un for trying to get leverage.

So he made the U.S. team sit in Singapore for 3 days and his team never showed up and went dark on all communication with them.
And then he made threats (again) to destroy the U.S. with nuclear weapons.

Then Trump said I'm sorry...but I'm canceling the summit.

THEN...North Korea did a 180 degree turn and released that statement last night with a peaceful tone.

As of today, Trump is saying the meeting MIGHT still happen.

Mark...to me that is a masterful piece of work by Trump. He is doing what nobody else has done.
You are a very smart guy...and to see you caught up in the hatred of Trump and be blinded shows me that it can happen to the smartest of people.

I don't mean that in a smart-ass way. I mean it very sincerely. This illogical hatred of Trump and denouncing of everything he does is affecting half the people.
Doesn't matter if you are dumb as a rock, or smart as a whip...the emotions of it seem to blind people to the truth.

Trump has not made a single "deal" in the entire first year of being in office. TTP? Walked away from. Paris Climate Agreement? Walked away from. Iran? Walked away from.

Of all of the promises he has made, to date he kept only one of them - a tax break for the rich. #winning.

This morning I read a stunning article about US troops on our border with Mexico. The Border Patrol union president, who fully supported US troops on the border, is now calling this a "colossal waste of resources". http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...on-border-is-a

Remember he said he was going to take on the pharmaceutical companies and lower the cost of medication? He did that two weeks ago today. His announcement was so pathetically weak that stock in the pharmaceutical companies went up.

beerptrol 05-25-2018 08:51 AM

https://i.imgur.com/WXg5pme.jpg

Matt-ADX 05-25-2018 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22276110)
Trump has not made a single "deal" in the entire first year of being in office. TTP? Walked away from. Paris Climate Agreement? Walked away from. Iran? Walked away from.

Trump has not made a single deal that I Rochard want or approve of.


Fixed that for you bud

dyna mo 05-25-2018 08:55 AM

does anyone feel safer now?

the art of the nuclear deal is making childish threats of nuclear annihilation combined with name calling and bailing out on nuclear deals and that's OK?

Bladewire 05-25-2018 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22276110)
Trump has not made a single "deal" in the entire first year of being in office. TTP? Walked away from. Paris Climate Agreement? Walked away from. Iran? Walked away from.

Of all of the promises he has made, to date he kept only one of them - a tax break for the rich. #winning.

This morning I read a stunning article about US troops on our border with Mexico. The Border Patrol union president, who fully supported US troops on the border, is now calling this a "colossal waste of resources". http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...on-border-is-a

Remember he said he was going to take on the pharmaceutical companies and lower the cost of medication? He did that two weeks ago today. His announcement was so pathetically weak that stock in the pharmaceutical companies went up.

QFT! The foreign Trump supporter nic chiming in here is a perfect example.

And Robbie will wonder why his insurance premiums are still high, and he'll blame Democrats. He'll wonder why his drug prices haven't gone down and he'll blame Democrats.

It's one thing for Robbie to lie to people online in support of trump it's another thing when he takes a cold hard look at his reality outside of being a Trump cheerleader.

Matt-ADX 05-25-2018 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22276120)
QFT! The foreign Trump supporter nic chiming in here is a perfect example.

And Robbie will wonder why his insurance premiums are still high, and he'll blame Democrats. He'll wonder why his drug prices haven't gone down and he'll blame Democrats.

It's one thing for Robbie to lie to people online in support of trump it's another thing when he takes a cold hard look at his reality outside of being a Trump cheerleader.

There is a difference between giving someone credit when they do something right and giving them shit when they do something wrong. You blindly just criticize anything he does because you want America to fail for some reason.

xClips Jim 05-25-2018 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22276119)
does anyone feel safer now?

the art of the nuclear deal is making childish threats of nuclear annihilation combined with name calling and bailing out on nuclear deals and that's OK?

Or - something else is going on.

Personally, I feel safer - since you were asking.

Bladewire 05-25-2018 09:04 AM

Fake nic troll is melting down in every thread today wow!


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