For years Robbie complained about the US sticking its nose in the business of other countries, now he's ok with trump threatening to nuke them. :1orglaugh

Also,

When Trump threatens to use nukes, then he means it right? otherwise he's just kidding about using nuclear strikes and that's OK?

The fact of the matter is Trump has something on NK. My guess is it has something to do with the Obama admin and/or Hillary. My other guess is they were using NK to sell arms. The fact that Kim did a 180 and is now pretty much begging Trump to the negotiation table is very telling.

He's not threatening to nuke them.. If you remember correctly it was Kim that was showing off his rockets and making threats. Trump is just saying, "You don't scare us, we have bigger guns and they don't shoot blanks"

The best way of looking at the whole thing is through Chinese glasses.

Yeah China is nosing in as well.. But, they are the ones who brought it together.. Everyone is just flexing their muscles.

that was absolutely a nuclear threat and you know it. We don't play word games with our nuclear weapons.


And another passive aggressive threat of a nuclear strike is embedded in Trump's breakup letter:

"You talk about nuclear capabilities, but ours are so massive and powerful that I pray to God they will never have to be used."



As Americans, we should agree this is not how we want to represent ourselves.

Fake nic troll has been melting down all day

seriously.


trump's tweet:

"North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!"

Trump is just saying, "You don't scare us, we have bigger guns and they don't shoot blanks"

So you think making veiled phony threats of nuclear strikes as a negotiating tactic to get a signed deal is good and right for America(ns)?

Hi Mark! It seems that you ignored the facts I posted yesterday. Here it is again:

What the media failed to acknowledge was that North Korea had been refusing to respond to U.S. diplomats who’d been trying to arrange the details of the June 12 summit. So Trump called it off, and in the process called Pyongyang’s bluff.

^^ This was the correct move, and now NK is saying they want to have the talks. Rachel Madcow lied to you AGAIN.


^^ So clueless. Rocgard, you listed 3 deals that Trump wasn't involved in. They were ALL terrible deals so he pulled out- an excellent move on all 3 of them. And no, it wasn't a "tax break for the rich" - It was for ALL Americans. Why would you be opposed to lower taxes? Oh right, the media tells you to hate Trump no matter what. You got duped buddy :2 cents:

Acepimp, are you OK with America using taunts and threats of nuclear strikes as bargaining chips in negotiating deals?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NK has launched how many missiles over Japan? Maybe a veiled threat is in order.

That's all that we're going to get with Trump other than his obvious desperation for a deal to save face. Trump would go-to war to distract from the fact he fucked up President Moons negotiations, and Trumps obvious corruption in illegally cashing in on his presidency.

The letter is very interesting. It was written by Trump himself. The part where he says the only talk that matters is between himself and Kim is particularly interesting. NK said what they did because Bolton and Pence both made reference to the Libyan model, this obviously isn't something any nation with nukes wants and it caused NK to react poorly and make a threat. So Trump responded with his own threat which obviously worked. Overall read the letter and it is a very sympathetic one, it does show that Trump really was keen on the meeting IMO

2018 and nuclear threats are now OK. I think you should reconsider.

He said months ago at that UN speech that if NK doesn't get with the program, they'll be totally destroyed. They know the deal- this is all just theater

you know I know you know you're avoiding the question.

Think about it...the U.S. has ALWAYS done that. So does every other country.
They usually do it behind closed doors.

Remember in 2006 when the Pakistan President revealed that top U.S. officials threatened to "bomb Pakistan back to the Stone Age" after 9-11?

No, they didn't tweet it out and tell everyone...but YES our country has ALWAYS threatened and taunted.
That's all part of arguments, negotiations, etc.

In the end...all these diplomats are just: People.
They aren't geniuses. They aren't some kind of infallible super-men and women.

Threats are made all the time. At the U.S. and by the U.S.

You just are getting a President that doesn't hide shit from the American people anymore and we aren't used to seeing the truth.
We have gotten used to being lied to by govt. and placated to FEEL "safe".

EDIT:
Here's a quick history lesson:
"In 1953, Eisenhower threatened the use of nuclear weapons to end the Korean War if the Chinese refused to negotiate.

The United States issued several nuclear threats against the People's Republic of China in the 1950s to force the evacuation of outlying islands and the cessation of attacks against Quemoy and Matsu, part of Republic of China.

Recently declassified documents from the National Archives (UK) indicate that the United Kingdom considered threatening China with nuclear retaliation in 1961 in the case of a military reclamation of Hong Kong by China.
Ali Magoudi, a psychoanalyst of French president François Mitterrand, claimed that Margaret Thatcher threatened nuclear war against Argentina during the 1982 Falklands War in order to procure codes from France to disable Argentina's French-made missiles. This claim has not been confirmed by either the French or British governments.

In 1981, the United States Department of Energy said there had been 75 cases of nuclear blackmail against the United States, though only several were serious attempts."

What will Princess and company say if the summit happens anyway?

↑↑↑ He's manic

Percy said Trump deserved a Nobel Peace Prize even though Trump has never met with the leader of North Korea. Then he says it's inevitable and Trump created peace. Now he says it's no big deal. Then he says it's going to happen.

This is what happens when your mind is so susceptible to suggestion that you literally change your mind 5 times in the day about a topic. Poor Robbie do sad to see the deterioration of his mind online.

Nk isn't going to get rid of their nukes. If the deal they come up with is worse than The Iran deal then he'll try and find a way to make it look great. NK will probably throw in a few hotel/golf/ resort deals for him and his family

Robbie, my point about being better/smarter than needing to threaten with nukes is exactly on account of history. The very first example you stated is Korea 65 years ago and here we are 65 years later and threatening again with nukes. that makes sense? in what way? It didn't work the first time, Korea has been at war ever since. We did not win in Korea.

We should be way beyond the need to childishly taunt and threaten others with nuclear weapons. Regardless of the POTUS.

We're supposed to have evolved. Learned from the past, grown. Lead by example.






We can't allow ourselves to be nuclear thugs Robbie.

Trump would do ANY deal to have an international Trump high rise hotel with attached resort and golf course in North Korea... anything

My point is...taunts and threats have ALWAYS been used in negotiations.

Sure, if our diplomats are sipping tea with their pinky fingers extended as they negotiate a deal with the Swedish ambassador... then no threats are needed.

But when dealing with backward country's who only respect strength? It requires manning up and a little bit of trash talking.

800 military bases in 70 countries makes you just conventional thugs :thumbsup the protection racket is going strong :2 cents::2 cents:

All of those countries, other than a couple, we are there at the invitation of the governments. They want us there for a variety reasons. We are the richest most powerful nation the world has ever known but we are a benevolent power.

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yes by invitation of the puppet government you put in place or extort with economic terrorism...you also may want to look up the word benevolent in the dictionary :2 cents:

here is a map of your "benevolence":

https://yp6uap4od3sncuze-zippykid.ne...tervention.jpg
https://justseeds.org/wp-content/upl...ntion_1500.jpg
http://britam.org/USOverseas.jpg



nigga pls :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

On average, the USA drops 70 "benevolence" bombs every day LOL

Might pay to take note of the following trend...

major trading partner USA= China, major trading partner South Korea= China, major trading partner North Korea= China, major trading partner Japan= China, major trading partner Australia= China, major trading partner Vietnam= China, major trading partner Thailand= China, major trading partner Burma= China, major trading partner Hong Kong= China, major trading partner Taiwan= China, major trading partner Malaysia= China, major trading partner Brazil= China, major trading partner Indonesia= China, major trading partner Chile= China, major trading partner Germany= China, major trading partner New Zealand= China,

and on and on and on...

So while we all agree America has the biggest guns do not for a second equate that to meaning the most power, Xi is the man by far and no one has advanced his position as world leader more.. Than Donald Trump, if anything he's actually bent over backwards to ensure it.

*steve rupe*

https://i.imgur.com/XSzjB9C.jpg

If they can get North and South Korea to sign a peace treaty.. on that war that stopped 50 years ago, then its a great Photo shot and outcome for all. No one has to really give up anything all leaders get a boost. Sanctions and denuclearization's negotiated separately.

The best thing for the USA is to have North & South at peace so if there was a military confrontation, South Korea is no longer a target of the North. Take South Korea out of the threat zone, then there's nothing to stop the USA annihilating NK. Will totally depend on what Foxnews said to Trump the day before and if Xi thinks there's money to be made.

Attack by portraying my view with effeminate metaphors. Makes sense.


No wonder you advocate USA being nuke thugs.

And no, I already proved your "nuke man up" theory false with your own example of Korea.

I thought you were the live and let live, the government should mind its own business, dont help our own, libertarian.

Not so eh Duke Nukem.

Robbie will make excuses for everything Trump does, no matter what.. Trump could drop a nuke on Canada and Robbie would be here telling us how it was right thing to do..

That can't be correct?? He's a massive libertarian, by his own words here.

BTW,
Here's the Libertarian party platform on nukes:

Here's an actual real history lesson for you:

Ike’s nuclear bluff, and its supposed success at ending the hostilities, is a dangerous myth, one that gave later presidents false confidence in the effectiveness of nuclear intimidation.

The myth of Ike’s nuclear recklessness could lead us into war.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2cc62f1cc4a9

None of that alters the fact that we are currently the richest most powerful country on this earth and I will not see that change in my lifetime.