This is why I'm ultimately cautiously sceptical in thinking any justice will be done with Trump in the end.

"These charges stemmed from a sexual harassment lawsuit filed against Clinton by Paula Jones. Clinton was subsequently acquitted of these charges by the Senate on February 12, 1999.[2] Two other impeachment articles – a second perjury charge and a charge of abuse of power – failed in the House." wiki

you mean who. He's flipped on trump.


people could argue you're too blinded by rose colored trump glasses to process this story.


certainly that can't be true.

He did? What did he say?



I don't deny the glass color. Would you mind helping by pointing out how he has flipped?

Flip you wig . . .

Fox definitely went after Obama...but they still did the news. Not talking about Hannity...but the rest of Fox: Chris Wallace, Bill Hemmer, Shepard Smith, etc.

CNN has NO news hours at all. It's all just "panels" of "experts" bashing Trump 24 hours a day.

So "no"...Fox never did anything like we are seeing now.

I'm putting 2 & 2 together and put this thread OP together on my own. partly to provoke a conversation.

It's clear to me cohen's looking to make a deal and his current legal team aren't deal makers with the NYAG and they're crazy expensive.

I'm confident he's flipped and I don't mean mueller flipped him. He's decided on his own, probably based on family, and is moving to a legal team/guy more suited to deal making with the NYAG than a legal team more suited to litigation.

i like calling things, what can i say. i usually get em right.

Nope...he was impeached for Perjury and "Obstruction of Justice" (which means whatever the cops want it to mean).

And it was bullshit.
They asked him if he fucked Monica. He denied it under oath.

I don't blame him one bit.
No man alive is going to admit in front of everybody that he was fucking some girl...Hillary was going to KILL him. lol

The impeachment of Clinton was a total travesty by the Republicans. Hillary was the real criminal even then...it was supposed to be an investigation into WhiteWater.
But like all of these "Special Counsels"...it veered off and started going after everyone that was friends or business associates of the Clintons.

That should NEVER have happened.
And neither should this Mueller bullshit.

We the PEOPLE elect our officials to government. It's the very definition of "Democracy".

To allow these unelected bureaucrats to have unbridled power and to answer to nobody is NOT the American way.

I watch MSNBC , almost never CNN.

MSNBC is covering the IG report right now, and the new tent City for mugrsnts being built in Texas.

I'm guessing you hate MSNBC as much as CNN because any TV news that does have far right fucknuts licking Trump's ass then it's not news you're interested in.

You never admit Trump being wrong here, about anything, just like Foxnews.

But...you didn't get the North Korean summit happening right. You called that one wrong.
Just sayin' :)

On this one...what do you think he "flipped" about??? Is he going to tell everybody that Trump is a billionaire playboy who likes fucking prostitutes?

Don't think that's gonna do much of anything or surprise anyone.

There has to be a law broken for a man to "flip".

So far we have a BACKWARDS investigation. Instead of investigating a crime and saying Trump is the suspect...they are investigating Trump TRYING to find a crime.

That's just bullshit in my opinion.

I got ya. So - not based on fact, just your opinion. I'm good with that now that I understand. It sounded like you were saying it as fact.

You know who gets things right? Remember the guy that was telling you that the pre-summit nonsense was theater and that it would happen anyway? That guy. :)

You ignore all the peopke around Trump who were indicted and plead guilty to federal crimes.

You ignore the people around Trump indicted and flipping on Trump.

You ignore that Trump paid out $25 million in a federal class action suit to avoid going to jail.

You ignore that Trump used his charities money to pay his attorney and settle multiple lawsuits.

You ignore everything bad Trump has been proven to do, and act like the FBI investigating Trump is unfounded. Your mind has rotted in toxic dogma.

you really are a joker if you think trump achieved CVID at the Singapore Summit.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I mean really. you've got Geraldo level rose colored glasses.

I have no idea what he's going to flip on. trump didn't take the high road to the 3 comma club.

if he's even in it.

wait, your side was thumping your chest exclaiming that pre-summit "nonsense" was super ultra high level negotiating that only you and trump understood.

now it's just trump shenanigans, like threatening nuclear strikes i guess.

You realize the Trumps are a crime family who does nothing above board...right?

Side? What the fuck side?

*I* said that I wasn't buying the on-again off-again bullshit narratives that were playing out and that the summit would be held as scheduled.

You really get lost in the 11th dimension chess thing for some reason. Might want to consider that you're talking to a normal person.

you side = your view. come on. you know I'm not being offensive here.

I'm not lost at all, reread my posts, I'm very consistent. again, i'm posting to you and in reply to you with respect. you can see that. I'm going to post my views with 100% confidence, why wouldn't I? I don't tread on your views to exalt my own. I certainly poke holes in them. that's part of the political discourse. you know that too.

I appreciate the way we debate - it's open and honest. Sometimes I might misread your jokes for purposeful obtuseness - but that's the web!

I admire how you guys can absorb this information so quickly. 500 pages is a lot to get through to know everything already. I'm still digging in, going back and forth between items, etc. It's going to take me awhile.

You realize the Trumps are a crime family who does nothing above board...right?

That wasn't what you were saying in that other thread.
You were saying flat out that Trump walking away from the summit at that point was not going to work and that there would be no summit.
You were off on that.
I tried to tell you at the time...but you were pretty adamant in your belief.

wrong.


I stated exactly what happened, that the summit was off, and it was. period. And trump
's little bail out negotiating tactic didn't work, there is no CVID.

DOn't try and spin reality just so you can back your guy with blind faith. It's too bad you have to make shit up about me just to cover your ass on your guy trump.

Again, there is no CVID as trump promised, there was no gain from trump bailing out on the deal and in fucking fact, there is no deal at all.

You're the one that fell for that trump baloney not me.
Don't lie about me to back that up.

and I'm right about cohen too,

ahahahahahahahahahahahah:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orgl augh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"President Donald Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen has indicated to family and friends he is willing to cooperate with federal investigators to alleviate the pressure on himself and his family, according to a source familiar with the matter.

Cohen has expressed anger with the treatment he has gotten from the President, who has minimized his relationship with Cohen, and comments from the President's lawyer Rudy Giuliani, the source said. The treatment has left him feeling isolated and more open to cooperating, the source said."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/polit...ors/index.html

poor Robbie, having to lie about me to back up trump on his no deal with NK.

but but trump is a master negotiator!

ahahahahaha. no.

WTF? Are you just trying to be an asshole to me?
I know exactly what you typed. It's in black and white on this site. And you were dead wrong about it.

Never mind. I see now that you have decided you are just going to be a troll now.
I guess there's probably nothing here for you anyway with the way this business is at this point.

So go ahead. Be a troll. Have fun with bladewire and crockett.

I'm done.

thank you Robbie, no one needs to hear your made-up baloney about trump. and we certainly don't need you to make up lies about us just to justify your view on trump.

The fake news media reports this every time, just because someone is willing to cooperate with their case has nothing to do whatsoever with Trump. However, they conflate the two things then the anti Trumpers run with it and the next day it turns out to be false as usual