BOOM!
Page: “(Trump’s) not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” Strzok: “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.”

reasonable like trump. he could shoot someone dead in the middle of 5th ave remember.

that sort of reasoning. since when does trump give a crud about reasoning? since never.

Oh yes, the Trump is stupid card. We can avoid reason and logic by saying those things are irrelevant in the Trump case because the most powerful person in the world is dumb.

you said trump is stupid, not me. I see it more as trump is used to manipulating others to get what he wants.

Of that there is little doubt.

I see onwebcam is posting messages from Strzok and Page.

Do you have any concerns about those people and the investigation they were doing? Any at all?

I'm not closed to it. that's for sure.

Well, that's good. :thumbsup

If there ended up being thousands of text messages between investigators putting out this OIG report that essentially say "Hey, fuck Hillary - let's get her!" - I would have serious concerns about the legitimacy of what they were doing.

I'm not that surprised that anti-Trumpers do not feel the same way. I just don't understand why.

look at the mean spirited, vitriolic and hateful exchange between two non-Democrats who as we all know are just angry, racist and mean people.

I mean.... CNN and Liberals keep telling us all day, everyday anyway.....

Hmm...

Trump's "fixer". LOL

The media comes up with these phrases and then uses them over and over so that society picks up on them.
It's just ridiculous.

He was Trump's personal attorney. I guess everybody who keeps a personal attorney on retainer has a "Fixer" now.
Hell, I have a personal attorney that I pay a grand a month to for a "retainer" fee. So I guess he's now known as "Robbie's fixer".

So dumb.

Anyway, the only things that Michael Cohen could "flip" on would be the normal bullshit that companies go through when doing business. I'm sure Walmart's team of "fixers" could "flip" on even more stuff.

The funny and yet sad thing is...this is all that CNN and MSNBC report on. When you watch Fox News or OAN or BBC (the other cable news stations on my provider) it's as if CNN and MSNBC are in some kind of different universe.

I can't understand why anyone at CNN would ever think that having hour after hour of panels of Trump-Haters "discuss" Michael Cohen would be the least bit interesting or of any service to their audience.

Meanwhile...on Fox, OAN, and BBC...you see news story after news story. Including the latest Cohen or Stormy or "Russia" news. But you also see important events that are happening.

Why on Earth would anyone in the general public have any interest in Michael Cohen? I don't get that.
It's kind of boring.

Nothing new has happened. There is no news to tell on it. It should be a one minute story and then move on to things that actually AFFECT people in this world.

Oh I don't know...they COULD report on the great news of the North Korea meeting (which the OP and all of CNN & MSNBC predicted would NOT even happen). Instead they are trying to make that look bad on Trump so that it will somehow help Democrats in the midterms. Disgusting.

Or they could report on the best economy we've seen in decades...but no...that might hurt the Dems in the midterms. Disgusting.

Or they could even just report the fucking news that doesn't help or hurt any politician. And occasionally they do if it's an event that is so big they just can't ignore it (like the volcano in Hawaii).

Instead they seem to spend 24 hours a day trying to get anti-Trump people in the public pissed off and keep the country divided.
Disgusting.

I'm skeptical about the veracity of the internally created report to begin with. Why would they reveal themselves. Regardless of party. I would expect there to be some wrist slaps but real shady shit will be not be revealed. Comey saving hilary ass from prosecution will not be revealed. Yes, I'm one of the ones who thinks the FBI/Comey gave hilary a get out of jail free card by not recommending prosecution re: the email servers and by announcing reopening the hilary investigation 2 weeks before the election.

of course the guy who claims he "would take a bullet for trump" and paid trump's prostitute 130K$ surreptitiously isn't trump's fixer.

you joker! you almost got me.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Is he going to take a bullet or is he going to flip?

Are they going to discredit him or pardon him?

Options are endless when you can say whatever you want!

exfuckingactly! that's trump. I didn't make up any of that baloney, team trump did.

rudy: "Our recollection keeps changing."

Okay then. :)

Cohen did say he would take a bullet for trump and he has flipped. And trump has bragged about pardon power and shown it off. And trump has prepared a plan to throw Cohen under the bus and has put it in motion.

Really? What has he flipped on?

This story is just another of the endless anti-Trump stories that have no real substance.

It's all designed to stop people from seeing what Trump is DOING.
Economy better than ever? Talk about Stormy Daniels.
Historic meeting with Kim Jung Un? Talk about Michael Cohen.
Hostages released from North Korea a few weeks back? Talk about Michael Cohen AND Stormy Daniels.

It's just insane.

Yesterday, for instance I turned on the t.v. to check the news. Went to FNC. They were airing a LIVE speech with Secretary of State Pompeo and the leader of South Korea making a statement about the North Korean Summit.
Pretty damn important stuff.

OAN was airing it live as well.
BBC was airing it live.

Went to CNN. A "panel" of "experts" discussing Michael Cohen. Not even a mention of it in the crawl.

Went to MSNBC...another "panel" of "experts" discussing the Mueller investigation. And in a tiny box on the right hand part of the screen we could see...but not hear, Pompeo speaking with the South Korean leader.

Disgusting what CNN and MSNBC have become.
But I guess they probably were always like this...but now it's revealed without any more pretense of "journalism".

They just traded places with Fox when Obama was President and Fox looked like CNN does now.

He can't? So when Clinton was under investigation while he was a sitting president what were the original charges for impeachment again?

You'll probably think it was Lewinsky, but that came after. Go on and look that one up and get back to us...

The original "charges" occured during his Presidency.. The sexual harassment occurred prior but that's not what he was charged with. He was charged with lying and obstructing after the case was brought against him. And he was acquitted of those.

This is why I'm ultimately cautiously sceptical in thinking any justice will be done with Trump in the end.

"These charges stemmed from a sexual harassment lawsuit filed against Clinton by Paula Jones. Clinton was subsequently acquitted of these charges by the Senate on February 12, 1999.[2] Two other impeachment articles – a second perjury charge and a charge of abuse of power – failed in the House." wiki

you mean who. He's flipped on trump.


people could argue you're too blinded by rose colored trump glasses to process this story.


certainly that can't be true.

He did? What did he say?



I don't deny the glass color. Would you mind helping by pointing out how he has flipped?

Flip you wig . . .

Fox definitely went after Obama...but they still did the news. Not talking about Hannity...but the rest of Fox: Chris Wallace, Bill Hemmer, Shepard Smith, etc.

CNN has NO news hours at all. It's all just "panels" of "experts" bashing Trump 24 hours a day.

So "no"...Fox never did anything like we are seeing now.

I'm putting 2 & 2 together and put this thread OP together on my own. partly to provoke a conversation.

It's clear to me cohen's looking to make a deal and his current legal team aren't deal makers with the NYAG and they're crazy expensive.

I'm confident he's flipped and I don't mean mueller flipped him. He's decided on his own, probably based on family, and is moving to a legal team/guy more suited to deal making with the NYAG than a legal team more suited to litigation.

i like calling things, what can i say. i usually get em right.

Nope...he was impeached for Perjury and "Obstruction of Justice" (which means whatever the cops want it to mean).

And it was bullshit.
They asked him if he fucked Monica. He denied it under oath.

I don't blame him one bit.
No man alive is going to admit in front of everybody that he was fucking some girl...Hillary was going to KILL him. lol

The impeachment of Clinton was a total travesty by the Republicans. Hillary was the real criminal even then...it was supposed to be an investigation into WhiteWater.
But like all of these "Special Counsels"...it veered off and started going after everyone that was friends or business associates of the Clintons.

That should NEVER have happened.
And neither should this Mueller bullshit.

We the PEOPLE elect our officials to government. It's the very definition of "Democracy".

To allow these unelected bureaucrats to have unbridled power and to answer to nobody is NOT the American way.

I watch MSNBC , almost never CNN.

MSNBC is covering the IG report right now, and the new tent City for mugrsnts being built in Texas.

I'm guessing you hate MSNBC as much as CNN because any TV news that does have far right fucknuts licking Trump's ass then it's not news you're interested in.

You never admit Trump being wrong here, about anything, just like Foxnews.

But...you didn't get the North Korean summit happening right. You called that one wrong.
Just sayin' :)

On this one...what do you think he "flipped" about??? Is he going to tell everybody that Trump is a billionaire playboy who likes fucking prostitutes?

Don't think that's gonna do much of anything or surprise anyone.

There has to be a law broken for a man to "flip".

So far we have a BACKWARDS investigation. Instead of investigating a crime and saying Trump is the suspect...they are investigating Trump TRYING to find a crime.

That's just bullshit in my opinion.

I got ya. So - not based on fact, just your opinion. I'm good with that now that I understand. It sounded like you were saying it as fact.

You know who gets things right? Remember the guy that was telling you that the pre-summit nonsense was theater and that it would happen anyway? That guy. :)

You ignore all the peopke around Trump who were indicted and plead guilty to federal crimes.

You ignore the people around Trump indicted and flipping on Trump.

You ignore that Trump paid out $25 million in a federal class action suit to avoid going to jail.

You ignore that Trump used his charities money to pay his attorney and settle multiple lawsuits.

You ignore everything bad Trump has been proven to do, and act like the FBI investigating Trump is unfounded. Your mind has rotted in toxic dogma.

you really are a joker if you think trump achieved CVID at the Singapore Summit.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I mean really. you've got Geraldo level rose colored glasses.

I have no idea what he's going to flip on. trump didn't take the high road to the 3 comma club.

if he's even in it.

wait, your side was thumping your chest exclaiming that pre-summit "nonsense" was super ultra high level negotiating that only you and trump understood.

now it's just trump shenanigans, like threatening nuclear strikes i guess.

You realize the Trumps are a crime family who does nothing above board...right?

Side? What the fuck side?

*I* said that I wasn't buying the on-again off-again bullshit narratives that were playing out and that the summit would be held as scheduled.

You really get lost in the 11th dimension chess thing for some reason. Might want to consider that you're talking to a normal person.

you side = your view. come on. you know I'm not being offensive here.

I'm not lost at all, reread my posts, I'm very consistent. again, i'm posting to you and in reply to you with respect. you can see that. I'm going to post my views with 100% confidence, why wouldn't I? I don't tread on your views to exalt my own. I certainly poke holes in them. that's part of the political discourse. you know that too.

I appreciate the way we debate - it's open and honest. Sometimes I might misread your jokes for purposeful obtuseness - but that's the web!

I admire how you guys can absorb this information so quickly. 500 pages is a lot to get through to know everything already. I'm still digging in, going back and forth between items, etc. It's going to take me awhile.

You realize the Trumps are a crime family who does nothing above board...right?

That wasn't what you were saying in that other thread.
You were saying flat out that Trump walking away from the summit at that point was not going to work and that there would be no summit.
You were off on that.
I tried to tell you at the time...but you were pretty adamant in your belief.

wrong.


I stated exactly what happened, that the summit was off, and it was. period. And trump
's little bail out negotiating tactic didn't work, there is no CVID.

DOn't try and spin reality just so you can back your guy with blind faith. It's too bad you have to make shit up about me just to cover your ass on your guy trump.

Again, there is no CVID as trump promised, there was no gain from trump bailing out on the deal and in fucking fact, there is no deal at all.

You're the one that fell for that trump baloney not me.
Don't lie about me to back that up.