sorry bladewire, source article trumps wiki page every time.

not my rules, rules of debate.

so you're exclaiming that America was wrong to deport extremely violent criminal [illegal] immigrants back to their home countries and ms13 is our fault because we deported them.


According to you: Americans deserves both violence from and credit for ms13 because we deported them for being violent gang members.

got it.

I didnt say any of that. I dont know where u got any of that from... but it explains why your logic is deportation of mexicans solves the problem of americas el salvadorian gang.

when did i ever claim deporting them is the solution?

in fucking fact, I've stated that deporting them led to the expansion.

Nope, made up of illegal aliens, they were born else where

Well, then have a seat and stfu.

Well it wouldn't hurt.

their stance is that since violent murdering el savadorians and honduran immigrants started a gang in America that America is to blame for that and to be given credit for it.

America didn't cause those violent murdering thugs to start a gang beyond our deporting them for being violent murdering thugs, which they were before they got here.

We talking about the gang. The gang was born here, built upon american gang politics... to defend itself from other american gangs. Its motherland is los angeles. Its embedded in the american prison system. It started many decades ago with aliens, today most american members were born here. Same as italian mafia, etc.

Theres no ending it bro. Theres no dropping this problem off somewhere else. Its american made. In America its staying.

no. I prefer keeping my distance from people like you.

USA didn't create these violent murdering thugs-

Honduran President Ricardo Maduro still has bitter memories of how his own son was kidnapped and killed by gang members in 1997, and has ordered a "zero tolerance" crackdown on gangs in his country. A law passed by the Honduran legislature makes illicit association a crime — in other words, anyone looking like a gang member is arrested as a suspect.

El Salvador has a similar law, called the "Mano Dura," or Firm Hand, and now the "Super Mano Dura." But some human rights activists and even a former Honduran police commissioner, Maria Luisa Borjas, criticize the crackdown tactics as extreme and repressive.

....and then they grew up..

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uh... yes. this was and is the exact message voters have been sending crybaby pussies like you. Finally we have a President actually doing President things instead of involving the Federal Government in gender bathrooms and fully justified police shootings like that of Michael Brown.

All I know is if you have a penis... and i find you in the bathroom with my daughter... ima hurt you. Take that charge with a smile.