lol - you actually believe him - that's cute :1orglaugh

I'm pretty sure you know how Google Translate works
Deutschland ein Gefangener Russlands? Donald Trumps Aussagen im Faktencheck - SPIEGEL ONLINE

but to make it short: in reality it's currently about 25%

man, you people are gullible

I get what you are saying but didn’t the victims vote? I thought the whole trump thing was about you guys are left behind.

He says every meeting is great. I get that you have a side but some objective ness is good.

Why? What has Trump done to make our country stronger?

He hasn't changed anything we are doing in Iraq or Afghanistan. In fact, his policy there with both countries is "do what Obama was doing". We now have troops inside of a war zone in Syria; Our forces have been directly engaged by Russian forces. With Korea he has moved our forces away from the border with North Korea, and canceled multiple training exercises.

On the political front he is destroying our relationships with our traditional allies (you know, the ones who supported us after 9/11 and in Iraq), and started trade wars with everyone which will end badly for us.

Everything he has done has weakened our national.

He meant it's much stronger for racists, fascists and authoritarian lovers.

I don't see things that way in the Middle East, except that we do have messes to clean up from previous admins, both Republican and Democrat. It's a new strategy and it will take some time to complete, but - where is ISIS? How long can Iran hold out against what is going on there? We are winning and are going to keep winning.

Asia - same thing, different tactics.

Our "traditional allies" seem to be anything but. Right now they are looking like the webmasters that hang around sponsor parties - hey, as long as you guys are paying and supplying us goodies we will hang with you and give you the Bro High Five, but - wait, you want us to kick in for this party? Chip in for the girls and booze? Fuuuuuuuuck that, we hate your shitty program, blah blah blah....

At some point, you decide to make new friends - which we are.

aha - you call this a hate comment when i tell you that 1200 km gas pipeline is cheaper than 8000 km ???

i think you should read a bit your own glibber to see what hate comments are

completely wrong.

most terrorists are financed by trumps friends saudi arabia.
iran have the same problem with isis as the rest of the world because isis AND saudies
are sunits and iran is one of the few shiite countries in the region.

go and educate yourself before you post your nonsense.

if we would buy only from non hated countries we should stop to trade with US first.

trading is not a war and have nothing to do with human rights or political affairs.

nobody sticks out their own eye because the other cannot see blood

if countries no longer trade with each other because they have different political views, then trade should no longer even take place within the USA because the states have such big political discrepancies


i think you completely misinterpret the situation.
the USA is in trouble and losing allies - Germany does not.

and Geramyn is a fee country - they can decide with who they want to trade - they do not need advise from an old fart.

and this is just the start of it because in a few months you will already see what trump made with your economy.

don´t cry than and say it is Germany´s or the EU´s fault.
you are now in the situation to prove how good you can exist without friends, trading partners and allies.
I am looking forward to see the result.

WICH 2 % ???

the agreement was that the EU countries will rise their OWN MILITARY BUDGET UNTIL 2014 IN THE NEAR OF 2%

can you show me something else ????

while the military spending in Germany in the crisis have been around 3,5 % of GDP
it went down when the crisis ends and Germany started to pay back debts (what you always forget to do)
The agreement we are talking about was made in 2014.

In 2014 the budget was at 1,18% increased til 2017 to 1,24 % and will be in 2018 on 1,5%
and we still do not have 2024.

SHOW ME ANYTHING that proves me wrong.

if i would me Merkel I would decrease the budget now and tell the clown to fuck off.
but I am not such a good diplomat as she is.

There is no objectiveness with the alt-right hate fake nic Russian troll.

None of his fake nics are objective.

He tows the line straight up:

1) Pro Russia

2) Anti American

3) Pro Trump ( because he wants Trump to weaken America )

4) Anti EU

5) Anti NATO ( because it weakens the EU )

6) Pro BREXIT ( because it weakens Britain, which weakens the EU )

7) Anti Russian sanctions

8) Pro racism ( because it weakens America )

9) Pro sexism ( because he's an incel )

10) Xenophobic ( because it weakens America & the EU )

He hasn't deviated from any of these points with any of his alt-right hate fake nics the last 2 years.

When you corner him with logic he'll do at least one of the following:

1) Blame Obama

2) Blame Clinton

3) Change the subject

4) Stop responding

5) Gang up on you with the fake nics, personally insulting you (against GFY TODLS )

6) Make a thread & or poll about you personally attacking you & ganging up with his fake nics ( against GFY TOS )

There's honestly no substance or integrity with the troll. He just spews propoganda & hate with minimal counterpoints, he doesn't have the intellect to logically discuss any point to it's logical conclusion because he's programmed based on emotion, not logic.

Who is this fictitious person you fucking idiot? Any clues? No? Just a mystery?

What is even more comical is that you attribute every view that doesn't agree with your unhinged, manic lie-fest as being "that person".

Crazy how 100% of people agree with you except this one guy. What an amazing fact.

Of course. I'm gullible for watching the actual meeting, the remarks and responses. Uh huh.

Makes perfect sense.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Let's see if hateful thommy is man enough to admit he's wrong.

sure thing hateful thommy, this is from the Wales Summit Agreement NATO countries made in 2014, straight from the official NATO url:

Issued on 05 Sep. 2014
"Allies currently meeting the NATO guideline to spend a minimum of 2% of their Gross Domestic Product (GDP) on defence will aim to continue to do so. Likewise, Allies spending more than 20% of their defence budgets on major equipment, including related Research & Development, will continue to do so.
Allies whose current proportion of GDP spent on defence is below this level will:
halt any decline in defence expenditure;
aim to increase defence expenditure in real terms as GDP grows;
aim to move towards the 2% guideline within a decade with a view to meeting their NATO Capability Targets and filling NATO's capability shortfalls."

https://www.nato.int/cps/ic/natohq/o...xts_112964.htm

Conservative: "Well, i don't know really, lets look at the history and the facts. Oh, found them, here they are and the facts seem to refute what you're saying."

Liberal: "Fuck you! Fuck your facts! You're racist, dumb and a Nazi"

Also Liberal: "I care more than you. I'm more tolerant than you. I'm more compassionate than you. I'm more understanding than you. I'm more reasonable than you."

#WalkAway

Must all people choose between Germany uber Alles or America First, or are there alternatives?

All go nuts in those political topics. I can only say Trump has right about the 2% if you look in what state the Dutch army is in.
We wouldn't even stand longer than 1 day when the enemy cross the border. Shouting pang Pang pang cause the goverment even doesn't buy bullets.
The Dutch soldiers go on mission without proper equipment. They even buy their own bulletproof jackets in the dumpstores themselves...
And many many other stories how bad it is cause the government spent less and less while the soldiers went on more and more missions.
I disagree with most missions, better do less missions. But when you sent troops, give them at least good equipment.
Due to EU rules and stupid dutch politicians the Dutch army doesn't even buy the Dutch made bulletproof jackets.
Too expensive. While the USA buys those jackets in the Netherlands cause they are the best! Strange, isn't it.
normaly the USA buys own jackets, but they wanted the best and that are those Dutch jackets.
So if the pressure from Trump make investments go faster in the dutch army, i support him.

And in Holland endless talks about the Joint Strike Fighter. The liberals like to point that out. It is a lot of money. But Holland spent the same amount of money in Healthcare in 2 weeks...

and what ????? when is a decade finished after 2014 ?
do you have someone in your neighborhood who can calculate that for you ?

you should also read the rest of this paper it is very interessting.


and a few more

The Alliance does not seek confrontation and poses no threat to Russia.


but in your hateful world peace is just a phrase.
for you it is peace and freedom when any idiot can buy a weapon and shoot someone.

you are completely fucked

No one is shocked that hateful thommy is not man enough to admit he's wrong.

I guess he's cool with Putin invading the Ukraine in their own back yard and taking a large chunk of their territory... so long as Germany makes the obligatory "we encourage all parties to seek a peaceful solution" statement to indemnify themselves as they continue funneling BILLIONS to Russia at the same time.

makes sense

but again, key takeaways as always, "you're dumb, he's smart, you don't deserve to live"

Wow wow. NATO against Merica. :1orglaugh And Trump "Russia Russia Russia". :1orglaugh

Yep. Facts are sometimes tough to face.

Well... Then he's right.

while thommy points his finger at trump for bailing out on the Paris Climate accord, germany commits billions to ANOTHER ruskie natural gas pipeline that will ensure Germany fails to meet its paris climate accord promises.

i am the very last one who would choose "Germany über alles" - I am not a nationalist and I can see a lot of things going wrong in Germany.

it is also not about the fact that the european NATO is not really a troup of fighters and it was never since WW2. I think we did quite fine with that and I prefer the diplomatic ways to resolve a problem.

but this here is fucking senseless discussion because all what is in this 2% agreement is written down and it says CLEARLY that the goal to realize that is 2024.

also it can not be used as a must.
what happens in a crisis ?
how do you want to finance an army when the 2% of GDP are only 50% of the money you had before?

Germany did exactly that and STILL spendet the same as before but in the crsisi years it was 3,5% of Germany´s GDP.

or tell me what Luxembourg is doing ?
their army have 1100 people !!!!
and their GDP is very high.
will they buy a ferrari for each army member just to get on the 2% ???

in 2017 the countries in the world spendet in just ONE year :
1.740.000.000.000 us dollar

imagine this amount of money and what the world would be able to do with it.

now lets see what the "enemies" are spending from that:

china 228 billion
russia 66 billion

so on one hand 294 billion from "enemies" against 1.446 billion from the "not enemies"

and this is the status quo. this IS already the fact.

trump now think that this is far too few.
but he does not say he want to decrease the us spendings - no he wants more for that too. what he actually wants is to sell weapons to the allies - weapons what they do not need because there is no war around.

anyway IF there would be a direct war between this big nations tanks would not save us. it would be a nuclear war and this would mean: the end of the planet.

66 billion from russia in 2017 and everyone is afraid of them ???

if the world is afraid of russia who spend 66 billion and the rest of the world 1.446 billion - these weapons for 1.446 billion must be a big crap.

we should better save this money and invest it in the future instead in the end of this planet. only an idiot will not understand that.

no wonder the eu is imploding.

don´t worry - we are already on a good way - even when you hate it that we don´t need you for anything.

in 20 years we will use oil for making salad. and in 30 years we´ve replaced gas too with renewable energy.
maybe we will import vodka than through this pipeline.
and you can drown your gram in the whisky you can't export anymore and drive with your gasoline waster against the next tree (if there are still trees).

WHERE AM I WRONG ??
i highlighted the part in YOUR QUOTE !!!!

so are you fucking drunk or can´t you read you OWN copy and paste ?

if you would understand english a bit better you would know that the lyrics in that song do not fit with germany but fit to USA-trump-hollow brains perfectly.
the words could be from trump.

Maybe thommy is so full of hate due to our American relatives kicking major fucking ass on his relatives in WW2.

Although that doesn't explain why he's not man enough to admit he's wrong.

in 20 years gas and oil will end anyway

'US must explain military presence near Russia borders'
Russia’s defense minister says the US accuses his country of “aggression,” while its own military is advancing closer and closer to Russian borders, calling on Washington to explain why its military bases are edging closer to Russian soil.
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/...n-Turkey-Syria

If what thommy said was true then the Germans would not be spending billions and billions on a second ruskie gas pipeline.

But as per usual, thommy is wrong. Mostly because his hate clouds his ability to think.

I am trolling a little our American comrades with this video.

They will, because of earn on this projects much more.

Maybe someone should explain to you how to tell your ass from a hole in the ground.


https://c2n.me/3VojwOc.jpg

Well said. :thumbsup

And your point is they spend too little or the US is totally fucked up and spends too munch?

They have a ton of solar and wind. I understand it does not fit your narrative but they are doing something.

my narrative is reality. check into it sometime before you just jump right into the middle of something and start acting like you know better.

are you actually trying to argue that Germany is not spending Billions on Nord Stream 2 while pointing your finger at me about that?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fill me in slapass. what is my narrative? the guy who has a democratic socialists of America logo as an avatar, the guy who constantly points out how horrible a guy I think trump is, etc.. just what is my narrative?