FBI directly lied to the court.. They admit they fired Steele as a source (not mentioning why > because he was talking to the press) and they told the court they didn't believe he was the source of the articles they reference we now know he was in fact the source on.

Where does it say that in the 412 page FISA application?

Or is this another unprovable lie by you?

No it's information that has been public for quite awhile, you've just kept your blinders on.. It's another problem with the warrant and also one reason why they blacked out dates.. Because if they fired Steele prior to submitting the application then they submitted the very first warrant knowing full well Steele had leaked and didn't mention this to the court.. Even if it was after, instead of notifying the court immediately after his firing they waited until the 2nd application months later.. Which is why you find it on the second application on page 100.. in bold..

Ok prove it.

Where do they say that? Not in the 412 FISA application, so where online do they say that?

You keep saying things as fact that you can't prove.

Steel Dossier? Why are we talking about this? The Steele Dossier was paid for by the Republican party. Some of it has been verified.

This investigation and the original FISA warrant was initiated before the Steele Dossier. In fact, this investigation started before Trump announced he was running for office.

No it wasn't.. Steele testified in the lawsuit against him that he did not begin the "dossier" until after he was hired by the DNC.. His own words... Which makes since considering they fed him the information within it...


Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.b773f9dd4577

It IS on the renewal on page 100 as I stated... They "notified" the court 3 months after the fact on the 1st renewal.


FISA memo: Steele fired as an FBI source for breaking 'cardinal rule' --leaking to the media | Fox News

Those "leaks" are the news reports the FBI used to corroborate the "evidence" > dossier

So he leaked to the media and was fired.

What's your point?

There are several points that you keep ignoring..

1. The FBI used those leaks to corroborate his "research"
2. If they fired him before the first application they knowing submitted the application without informing the court that source #1 (the MAIN source) leaked to the media the corroborating evidence..
3. Even if they fired him after the 1st application they state they fired him in October and they didn't notify the court until the renewal application 3 months later which is against policy.. They are suppose to notify the court immediately..

Their main source became untrustworthy the moment they learned he was the source of these leaks.. What HAS to be determined is when they learned of this. Which is what Nunes and co are trying to do..

So he leaked to the media and was fired.

What's your point?

He's untrustworthy as a source because of a leak. False.

You really try hard to invalidate the truth. This is part of your biased psychological defect.

If your "logic" was true jailhouse informants would be invalid, which is not reality.

In fact, you are partially correct. The so called "Steele Dossier" was done by Fusion GPS. Steele was not part of the original research.

However, the original FISA warrant was started in 2014. This was two years before Fusion GPS was hired.

Saying that the Carter Page investigation was stared because of the Steel Dossier is completely incorrect. The investigation was stared two years prior to the Steele Dossier.

He was fired for breaking the "cardinal rule" and you think that's "nothing?" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

He was THE source for the warrant.. His "evidence" was corroborated by HIS OWN leaks.. What part of that do you not get?

You are totally lost.. Carter Page wasn't under investigation 2 years earlier.. He was WORKING for the FBI up until months before for several years prior testifying against other Russians...

You're lying again.

Stop it!

The irony that you support russian espionage on American citizens to attack Hillary Clinton and the DNC via WikiLeaks while you reject info provided by a British MI6 spy to survail a Russian agent is not beyond us you slimy Russian stooge!

YOU have been supporting the BIG LIE all along

Again, you love WikiLeaks and Russian espionage on Americans to attack Americans, you HATE a British MI6 agent legally getting data to survail a Russian spy.

You're a Russian stooge the gig is up you fake cunt!

Not true at all.

"Because of these ties to Russia, Page had been the subject of a warrant pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in 2014."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page

They are trying to keep it quiet that he was in fact working for the FBI as informant for years prior... I'm on my phone so can't post other links right now
https://www.newsweek.com/was-carter-page-spy-russians-or-us-802770

They were running counterintelligence on him.. he was working for counterintelligence.. the person he was testifying against was sentenced in June 2016 which relieved him if that particular duty and FBI pay check

Oh now "it's a conspiracy"

When you can't prove anything with facts you fall on the old "it's a conspiracy" line. Sad

You are mentally ill princsess change your tampon & take your meds

It's publicly admitted now. Just not talked about a lot... For the obvious reason that it kills the narratjve

That article doesn't say Page worked for the FBI. Instead it said Page was interviewed by FBI counterintelligence agents after he met with Russian agents. The Russian agent called Page "an idiot, but somebody who the Russians could work with because of his enthusiasm and desire to earn lots of money."

Good try though.

As I said I'm on my phone. Can't post the links now.. I posted it all when he was first revealed..

I have found several links where Carter Page stated he was giving info to the FBI (and CIA).

I do not find anything confirming that and since Page is known to embellish his importance, I would like to see something verifying what you are saying.

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Well... If he was an FBI agent, why would the FBI be investing him?

He wasn't an FBI "agent" he was an FBI "informant"


DOJ Documents Show Carter Page Helped FBI Catch Russian Spies
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisr...spies-n2444651

He set them up and testified against them.. The case ended around June '16 with the sentencing.. That's when Page was relieved of his duty there..

There's lots more.. Page even admits it himself.. Again they are trying to keep this buried... Both sides.. I assume because they don't want him killed over it..

What anyone will find when looking at those docs is that the FBI was doing their job. If the FBI suspects you're an agent for Russia, then you most likely are.

The FBI doesn't think I'm an agent of Russia. Guess why.

What cunt rag conservative conspiracy hack website told you that, you fucking stupid sheep?

Safe to assume you didn't read the link which explains it and links to the court case?

Just another piece the FBI neglected to inform the court about.... because they wouldn't have gotten their warrant if they did...

This is sad already.

Did you read your own article?

"In the complaint, Monaghan attested to how Page was the target of efforts by Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) agents Igor Sporyshev and Victor Podobnyy to recruit sources in New York City."

Page didn't help the FBI. Page got caught by the FBI.

Which is yet further proof that the investigation started long before the Steele Dossier existed.

Yes I did.. And I read the court documents.. As usual you "don't understand" Page was approached by the FBI because he was propositioned by the Russian agents.. As in the FBI were watching the Russian agents and knew they had approached Page.. Page offered to help, he set them up and got them convicted.. Page was still on that case until June or July 2016. Meaning he was still being paid as a CI by the FBI while he was volunteering on Trump's campaign..

It doesn't say that at all. Page got caught in a FBI investigation. He didn't help.

He did.... Read the court documents.... Granted that's just the initial charging docs.. He setup a sting on them... That's why they are in jail now.... His involvement comes in starting on page 12, he is Male-1.. I'll dig up the details of how the sting played out later.. Basically Page setup a fictitious energy company to do business with them..

He did not work for the FBI. He got investigated by the FBI because they investigating someone else, and Page was caught up in it. They questioned him as a suspect.

He did.. He was a witness in the case.. That's why he is identified as male-1.. Much like the FISA warrant identifying those "sources" against him.. I've posted all of the details in the case long ago.. At some point I'll find the time to dig it up.. No doubt you were arguing with me in that thread as well..

You weave this lie out of 412 pages of truth but the truth prevails especially when MAGA! Mueller Ain't Going Anywhere!

412 pages 90+% based on "unverified and salacious" "evidence" according to the very person who signed it..

We will be seeing the unredacted version, 100% guaranteed now.. You may want to start reversing course as others are..

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https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...teele-dossier/

Trumpsters, forever the victims even with full control of the House, the Senate & the Executive. Grow up and learn how to play defense, playing victim isn't defense

You missing the part where the Senate Intelligence Committee was leaking the FISA.. Many of the establishment on both sides are just like you.. Doing everything you can to work against him.. Several will be lucky to escape treason trials.. There's a good reason why Trump has a General as his Chief of Staff. Because when the time comes, it will be the military behind him..

He might have been a witness. But he did not work for the FBI. He was not an informant. The FBI was investigating someone and they stumbled across Carter Page. At a certain point they questioned Carter Page because of his involvement. He wasn't an informant; He was a suspect.

He was an informant.. It's a fact Rochard. I'll have to dig up all the shit I posted on it before because it's all buried now due to all the reporting.. They don't want to "out" him... Here's a link to Carter Page telling you himself he "helped" the CIA and FBI in the past on Russia...


Carter Page: I regularly briefed CIA, FBI
https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/vid...i-942023747554

Carter Page is/was deep cover CIA...