You're focused on fructose for some strange reason. There are so many things that are bad for you can't possibly eliminate them from your diet unless you want to eat fucking bean sprouts and cabbage. That's boring. Everything is ok in moderation. Fuck your scientific knowledge. I had a giant bowl of ice cream before bed last night and I still have a six pack the next day and also I'm not dead. Your problem is you know too much so all you do is talk.

You can worry about fructose if you're guzzling a gallon of corn syrup daily. It's not necessary to worry about it if you eat a normal, healthy amount of fruit.

dumb serbie. when you make an outlandish claim like fruit is as bad as processed sugar, the onus is on you to prove that claim. it's not on me to disprove that ridiculous statement.

you're too dumb to realize that.

I just had cake and cannoli too. Waiting to keel over.

Can't be accurate

Processed sugars are high in fructose...google highest sources of fructose...fructose is bad...dynamo keeps avoiding my question: why is inferior,less nutrient dense,fructose rich fruit good?

There are no studies that have been done to research whether frucose from processed sugar is worse than fructose from fruit because: fructose is fructose...they are THE SAME...

As for moderation, sure, if you work out you can get away with moderation, or if you have a fast metabolism...you could also smoke in moderation, but most people do not do well with moderation...

BUT

if you have the need to count calories in the first place: THEN YOU PROBABLY FUCKING CANT get away without gainig fat, BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKING COUNTING CALORIES HELOOOO...my advice is rock solid...fructose = you fuck yourself for 20 seconds of oral pleasure...


Go ahead eat fruit LOL...spike your insulin, block your leptin and be hungry like some bitch...pimp dont care...

finally the shitstain serb gets it. a fucking banana with a whopping 6 grams of fructose isn't bad for you and no Americans give 1 single fucking shit what a shitstained serb eats.

as if people are going to eat 6 bananas at a time. you know how many bananas people eat at a time? ONE.

jesus titty fucking christ you're a fucking nitwit.

Blocks leptin more than most veggies...creates hunger...you are reaching with the 6 bananna example, nobody will eat 6 but they will have more hunger than with most veggies afterwards...do not play dumb...

Why is fruit good? Dont be a pussy and amuse me LOL...take a stab at it and try to answer...I wont flame you too hard I promise...

ehtanol and fructose molecules...notice the similarity?...well guess what? long term effects from alcohol and fruit are the same...want high bad cholesterol? want low good cholesterol? want fatty liver? want cardio vascular disease? want oxidative stress? want accelerated aging?

well by all means enjoy your alcohols because guess how fructose acts in the body: like an alcohol

guess where those sugar alcohols come from that are in artificial sweeteners? NOT VEGGIES LOL...thats right: fruit and berries...alcohol...


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-PrKIBlvPm...-structure.png
https://biologydictionary.net/wp-con...1/Fructose.jpg




why is fruit good again? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So now you're a fucking chemist? How long does it take to get through your thick fucking skull that you would have to a major amount of fruit for it to be dangerous? And you would have to do it every day?

Found an article explaining what you're not understanding.

Fructose Foolishness | Whole9

All you guys who get so tied up with granular details about nutrition always lack perspective and context.

wrong...20OZ is the standard dose of soda in the USA and nowhere else in the world...I think 8oz is the standard, I do not drink canned shit it so I do not know but its around that...a normal can of coca cola has 13g of fructose (25g of sugar total 55% is fructose), one banana has 8...one apple has 16 grams of fructose...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

3 apples per day is like 3+ cans of coca cola :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

enjoy your fruits :thumbsup

oh and if somebody mentions how fiber in fruit slows down the absorption of the fructose they can suck my nuts upfront...it slows down absorption like yoyoba stops aging :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


so yeah...listen to dynamo :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dynamo is a faggit btw

this is what 40 looks like eating fruit

https://i.imgur.com/5gXYffs.png

I suck at eating, never been a forte and my Rasta cab dude who even though only two months younger than my mom has become a friend and keeps bringing me food without me even asking. I adore him. He's such a treat in my life.

too sad right now to eat much. keep forgetting.

tofu and salsa and spicy V8s. plus frozen blueberries and watermelon

once I get my strength back physically and mentally will get my abs back as well.

but for now, this is what fruit does to a broken body.

You look good and healthy JesseQuinn.

Keep enjoying life and fruit!

thank you for what you wrote, just not there yet. between the breakup and the car accident it's been..a lot

not healthy in any way right now.

I guess you're not Indigenous but what's cool is that one doesn't have to be to have a spirit animal to guide them.

mine is the Eagle which is SO much responsibility. got some strong shoulders but too much sometimes though.

If you are down for it, discover yours?

I would be very curious to learn.

you meatheads aren't understanding the problem as per usual...

When people are asking about these kinds of things they are NOT bodybuilders and they are NOT sub 12% bodyfat, not ever. so your examples are worthless bullshit unless you are talking to other bodybuilders maintaining. You can get away with eating more fruit than the rest of us because you are lean already and you are in higher metabolism bracket than most. Not from diet but just from the fact you are lean. So fat people eating fruit is stupid, at least anything larger than a size of a single handful a day.
Neither of you dimwits lost your fat from piling on the fruit, neither of you have been anywhere near a competition and done that either, unless you lost miserably...

What's the point of reading up on health and nutrition if you can't understand that people come at this from different perspectives of health and fitness?

whatever you are doing is working..... what where we talking about?

first serbie exclaimed "fruit is just as bad as processed sugar".

when i rubbed his nose in that bullshit he then squealed out-

"fruit is not as good for you as the most nutritionally dense vegetables on the planet"

when I rubbed his nose in that bullshit, he then changed it all to

"fruit is good in moderation"


slimey serbie covered in putin splooge slippin around.


ahahaha.

Love likes not the falling fruit . . .

Of course you wouldnt want someone losing weight to have an extraordinarily large amount of fruit...but lets be honest how many over weight people are getting fat from over eating fruit? Last i checked its high fructose corn syrup...the processed version of fructose thats causing these issues.

And lol @ you for thinking competitors dont eat carbs during their prep...

poor serbie. what a sad way to go through life. not enjoying fruit while pointing your finger at those who do.

all while being drenched in putin splooge.

I like Pop Tarts.

That's cool right?

As long as they aren't fruit Pop tarts you're good!


I noticed they have pumpkin Pop tarts now.

I did not change anything you are a door mat who changed the context...

1) fruit is just as bad as processed sugar, 1 apple = 1 can of coca cola
2) fruit is not as good for you as the most nutritionally dense veggies...also things that are not as good: cyanide, domestos, cocaine etc...I in no way contradicted what I said
3) you can get away with eating some fruit IF you are already lean or an athlete...you can get away with heroin as well...

it amuses me how desperate you are to cover your obvious lack of knowledge...carry on :thumbsup



the rest of you enjoy your sugar alcohols and apple = can of coca cola diets...I just had cabbage and broccoli witch chicken...none of that poison for me :thumbsup

Maybe if you enjoyed a fresh peach or some blueberries now and again you wouldn't be such a miserable guy.

only lemon, lime and the occasional avocado for me...fighter jets like me need optimum fuel...none of that weak ass shit :2 cents:

This argument is the equivalent of us saying dont eat spinach because it may contain e-coli. No one is sitting down and eating 3-4 apples at a clip or in a day for that matter.

Its funny you mention cyanide...there are a few cyanide precursors in veggies that are bio-available if you do not cook them thoroughly. Lima beans being one of them. Poison veggies

jtfc!!!!!!

there is no reason to consume fructose...the body does not need it for anything and it can make it...people having trouble with fat loss will get fucked if they eat fructose...everything about fructose is bad...there is not 1 single benefit other than the taste...

Yup and eating meat and protein rich food raises insulin levels as well. Excess protein gets converted to glucose and consuming too much will also mess with your insulin sensitivity.

Sugars are not as bad as you claim - I believe it boils down to poor word choice. In this day and age going outside is "bad for you" Consuming fructose is counterproductive for those attempting to lose weight. Thats about it. Every body type is different and each person will metabolize said sugars differently.

Nice little comparison of foods using the insulin index.

http://i64.tinypic.com/1eyxv.jpg

protein is a must...you eat it or you die eventually...the insulin with protein is "fixed insulin" if you will...there is no way around this...of course you can eat meats that spike insulin less...but still protein is a must...it is what it is...

whether you eat carbs on the other hand is your choice...high gi vs low gi intake ratios are critical to regulating "variable insulin", the insulin you CAN control...avoiding fructose is a no brainer here...



gluconeogenesis is not a problem with "fattier meat"...also if you avoid bad carbs you feel less hunger...leptin is not blocked...it is hard to over eat....

Yes but regardless fructose stored within the cell walls of fruit takes about 4x as long to absorb and digest than say sugar from a can of soda. If youre looking at labels this isnt evident...

he knows everything.

what's worse is he spends day in and day out here month after month year after year saying truly mean-spirited things about Americans.

There is fiber in bread as well but it still makes you fat...regardless of the fiber you are still introducing unnecessary fructose in to your diet...

The slowing down of absorption 4x is just not true...an apple has 2 grams of fiber but 16g of just fructose...it MAY slow down absorption a bit but 4x is just not true...pizza has the same fiber per 100g...so does pasta...it all makes you fat...



Funny how nobody can explain the benefits of fruit...especially dynamo LOL...fake expert IRL

the daily recommended fiber amount is 25 grams. an apple actually has more than 4 grams fiber. Thats a full 20% of daily required fiber. In 1 fucking apple.

And if you want to get the shits, just eat 10 or so grams of fiber at once without ton of calories to go with it.

an apple has 2g of fiber per 100g...there is no way that just 2 grams can slow down the intake of the other 98 grams 4x....it can slow it down a bit, but not significantly...fiber is not an active substance, it just increases the viscosity of intestinal contents a bit...

I think the 4x figure is fake science, or at least it sounds like fake science sponsored by a group with interests....

The ratio of fiber to total cals of an apple is
1:25

The ratio of total daily required fiber to total cals is

3:200

An apple is loaded with fiber

I repeat, an apple, has 2g of fiber per 100g...you can try and make this number look bigger how ever you wish, 2% is 2%...

2% of an inactive substance can not slow down the processing of the remaining 98% by 4x...it does not work that way....it does not magically cover the 98%...

pizza has the same dietary fiber % as an apple...so does bread...