I really apreciate that you do not see my points as hater-stuff.
I don´t want to make anyone responsable for a mistake and hate him for that - I just want to show him WHERE he is wrong and WHY.

I am not Nostradamus and can predict the future of the world but I see a lot of things they are more logic than logic and if one deny that he earns the "idiot mark".

the climate change you mentioned is one of the really great examples.

the NASA brought you to moon - americans are proud on that (and with reason)
the NASA have send robots to mars what are working longer than anyone expected - and americans are proud of that (and with reason)
the NASA will bring people to mars in the next 10 years - americans are proud on that

and ALL of that WITH REASON because the people working there are NOT idiots and have done things that nobody ever did before...you CAN be proud on that and the world will celebrate it with you !

now the SAME NASA tells the whole world the HUMAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS EXISTING AND IN A CRITICAL PHASE - and now they are idiots?

do you understand what i mean when i call such a brain bonsai idiot?

another example is the past financial crisis.
the whole fucking world knows how it was caused and there is no doubt nowhere.

obama, against unbelievable resistance from rows of financial mafia and republicans, has passed a law that can at least have some regulatory effect to protect those who end up paying the bill: ordinary citizens.

trump overturned this law on the first day and received applause - not only from the financial mafia and the republican party but also from those who had to pay the last bill even though they were not to blame for the disaster?

idiots? yes 1000% idiots !

trump tells people that he is punishing china with duties and his followers are cheering?

only: who pays these duties? China? no !!! the american idiots but unfortunately not ONLY the idiots!

from his public position as POTUS, trump is fighting a war against a personal arch enemy - jeff bezos - and tells the people he or amazon would exploit the US post.
jeff bezos responded and simply stopped "robbing". the losses of the mail have been increasing ever since and when bezos is finished, a letter delivery in usa costs 5 times more than now.

no - not just for the idiots, because that'd be great.

trump is also waging a trade war with its neighbor canada, even though the usa is writing a trade plus with canada.
what have they done to him? brought too much money into the US cash register ?

with an idiot as president and idiots as his followers, you can even make enemies of neighbors.

trump is also not good to speak of germany and one of the reasons is that germany buys the 25% cheaper gas from russia and not the expensive american one which on top of that would have to be transported by ship across the sea under huge environmental pollution.

he claims to be a smart businessman and knows what a good deal is. well, europe knows that too, because otherwise they wouldn't have had better trade balance sheets than in the USA since time immemorial.

what did he reach? putin pays 100% for northstream 2 ! and europe have even less costs.
dealer or idiot? I think this question is also easy to answer.

In asia he kicked US out of all and everything. whole asia is in china´s hand now. that will help a lot to stand a trade war against the USA.
china knows that they will losse on it but they don´t care. but what about the idiots? will they care?

i can write this list from here to the moon because there is not one day when trump isn´t doing a HUGE mistake.
and as i said - the problem is not trump because he will be forgotten in the history and maybe a future generation will call his voters simply: the idiots

the problem is that the world has lost confidence in the american people and system because it is no longer predictable and trustworthy.
under these circumstances it cannot be ruled out that steve bannon or jack the ripper will become the next president. and THAT is NOT due to trump but to those who chose him and still haven't realized that they didn't put their hand in a sweet cake but deep into a dirty and shitty toilet.

That was beautiful thommy, really.

Tear.

If only Americans behaved the way you demand.

And Steve bannon was not currently a huge hit throughout Europe.

I think you are correct when you say Trump is a symptom and not the cause. For the last 40 years America has de-funded public education systems. When we do budget for schools, it is based off the taxes in the school area, so rich areas have good schools and poor areas have worse schools - and the distance gets wider all the time.

Democracy requires intelligent, well-informed citizens to work correctly, because it requires that citizens participate in political decisions. Some political issues are very complicated - issues of global finance and geopolitics - we need citizens who understand these difficult problems and can make informed choices.

In Italy, in the 1400s, when the founders of the Renaissance were trying to figure out how to implement democracy, they looked at the education system of the ancient greeks. The humanist education - rhetoric, logic, argument, communication - and they decided THIS is what makes democracy work. America needs this kind of citizen - well-informed, well-educated, intellectually curious. But it has starved its education system, and now we have adult citizens who can't discern reality from fantasy.

What planet are living on where everyone has a skilled trade or college education required job? What are these low skilled workers supposed to do? Just live off the government? Many of these low skilled workers WANT to work but we've let china steal all our jobs over the last 30 years. PS those jobs are coming back and not only that they're coming back in record numbers.

There are opportunities for unskilled labor in the U.S., they just generally don't involve the production of physical goods. This happens as rich countries transition into service-based economies, because having a better standard of living goes hand in hand with not doing dangerous, physical labor. Unskilled U.S. workers can work in the service economy as waiters, attendants, cleaners, etc.

just like you, I would have written it if my english was perfect enough.

nice that you don't use your head only for hair cutting.
and nice that you think about the real problems that don't offer simple solutions in themselves.

if i let my dogs choose how often they get to eat, they would be dead after a few months. so they are not allowed to vote and are excluded from democratic rules and that is good for them.

but now unfortunately i am an ardent advocate of democracy - at least when it comes to the human society and here begins the problem, because if people have the educational status of my dogs, that can end in disaster.

here the heart of freedom beats against the heart of logic and to defeat this evil we don't need hollywood but an equal education system all over the world and for everyone.

we need people who also recognize when they are pulled over the table with rhetorical tricks that could be read in any 2-dollar pocket book.

we live in the age of manipulation and also the advertising industry would not exist at all if these tricks would not work.
may stupid mistakes make? yes - they may - but only as long as these mistakes do not have to be paid by others.

education is therefore the highest goal that we humans should have. education, empathy, logic and farsightedness are the true rare earths from which we have too little.

for me, it's simply frightening that millions of people don't realize that in the oval office a notorious liar and dilletant is sitting - and in addition a damn bad liar.

it's also a mystery to me why these people don't recognize the carrying capacity in a worldwide economy, because the consequences will still be noticeable in decades to come.

i can't understand why so few people have even the simplest basic knowledge about what they like best: money.

this is where the problems and limits of democracy lie. maybe this is how the founding fathers of america saw it and that's why they introduced the electors who could turn the people's will for the better solution. this was perhaps the underlying idea that led them to it. but to continue this circumstance forever and to live with the fact that the voters are stupid and remain stupid doesn't make democracy grow but die.

there is a user here who wants to explain to me that the USA is not a democracy but a constitutional republic. Doesn't that also scare you that young people in this country have so little knowledge about forms of government that they don't even KNOW that they live in a democracy (even if in a special and limited form of it)?

A country that has been waging wars for democracy for decades. In which millions of soldiers have left their lives for democracy has inhabitants who do not know that they themselves live in a democracy? Should such people really be allowed to vote or wouldn't an election licence be appropriate in this case?

Please do not take this the wrong way. America is not the only country in the world with this problem. But America is the only country that claims to have understood democracy and from here on it becomes an oxymoron.

I worry about America but I worry even more about the remaining 96.7% of humanity for whom this is supposed to be an example.

You defend your 2nd Amendment and take thousands of deaths every year in exchange for it on the grounds that it is right to defend yourself against your government when it gets out of control. The government has been getting out of hand for decades - so what has the 2nd Amendment done, except killing people?

You hate the Russian oligarchs who milk the people there like cows and live in dependence on a few oligarchs who for decades have been telling you the blue of the sky and fooling you into believing the beautiful world.

There has never been a war movie shot in Hollywood in which the US Army doesn't win heroically and bravely. No matter what atrocities the same army has committed in the world and unmentioned the fact that America has never won a war (at least not alone).
Wake up America - this is not the reality that is called Matrix.

SecondFloor, I hope you see what thommy is telling you. he is telling you that he thinks his dog is smarter than you and your fellow Americans.

here's what thommy thinks of all Americans, including children:

wait, that's all thommy does is complain about Americans being the cause of all of his failures.

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dafuq you yapping about.

it is THIS planet what requires that if you want to live a good life.
you say chinese take this low skilled jobs?
ok i am sure you will find people doing this jobs for 300-400 dollar per month in US.

ohhh... I sense your answer already: they should get paid more.

and how much more do they have to earn when everything suddenly costs 300% more?

and the next question would be: for WHOM do they produce when these were partly manufactured in china, and now cost 300% more on the export market as well?

i think this company will not need a lot of them at the end because no exports and far less sales inside the country.

your miscalculation is that you give unlimited budgets to every american household. but they don't. actually, they don't have any budgets because the goods they buy belong to banks or credit card companies.

if a sweatshirt costs now 15 dollars and they buy 3 of them and later 45 dollars they will simply buy 1. and for 1 you do not need the same amount of workers as for 3. and if they still buy the 3 sweat shirts for the higher price the new car or bicycle will be delisted from the buying list. does that logic reach you?

the jobs you are talking about now are jobs what are created by new bank loans.
many people who planed to build an own home took the chance of cheap interest and bought it now.

to build that many houses you need many workers, right ?

but here are the bad news. the new house orders crashed since 3 month dramatically.
after those houses are build there will not be work for these people.
what do they do than? going to blame china and ask for more house credits from them?

the default risk on private loans granted to houses and cars in the past 2 years has meanwhile almost reached the level of 2008 again.
can you remember what the result was?

how many new cars do you think will be built if you can buy auctioned used car 50% under value? how many houses will be built if the debtor's houses are auctioned at a bargain price?

and here i talk only about 2 of your VERY BIG industries.
if people in this industries losing their job ALL other industries will be effected.
and than the financial markets will crash and as trump gave them their old conditions back they do not have saved money to pay back anybody. who do you think will pay it ? trump ?

remember this very good: 2019 the world will fall in the next financial crisis. and this time it will be MUCH bigger. and even china who helped you out with money in the last crisis will suffer and can´t lend you anything.

what will you do than? begging putin to buy your nukes ?

logic is a rare good - and logic in economy is even harder.
i hope with this child explaination i could make it a bit clearer for you.

you do not have to tell him what i am telling him.
in opposite to you he is smart and understand what i write.

btw. why do you spend so much time here and spread your inner hate?
did the ugly old cunts you shot don´t want to work with you anymore or did you lose your job as university professor for teaching bullshit?

you can try as hard as you want - i will not take you serious. i just can see that you are a poor old and lonely fart who looks for enemies to get rid of the hate on your own miserable life.

take it easy - read a bit marx and engels - they will tell you how to be happy as a nobody.

wait, thommy claimed last week the markets were crashing 2018 q3 and 4. that was before I pointed out we are almost finished with q3.

now his doom & gloom has been conveniently rescheduled for 2019

are you really trying to claim you didn't compare your dog to Americans? you don't realize you wrote that right here in this thread?

so thommy now claims he didn't write this:

take a knee Americans. Thommy's going to lecture us on how we need to behave like he demands we do. his failures are our fault.

thommy, you sling porn traffic that you can't convert. you are not an upstanding pillar of your community.

Thommy - you're right - I read everything you said and I agree with you.

You made a good point about advertising, that people fall for cheap political tricks the way they fall for advertising schemes. Maybe this is part of the root of the problem. Wealthy capitalists don't really want well-informed citizens who would see through advertising techniques, consume less garbage, and vote in their own interests. They want people easily persuaded - even without facts or evidence.

I think the U.S. has this problem worse than others, but I also worry deeply about European countries going the same route - Orban's Hungary, Andrzej Duda's Poland, and other un-democratic trends in the EU. I think the motivations behind the far-right movements in Europe are often similar to those in the U.S.

when in the history of America has the public been well-informed? last I checked, our government has been functioning for 240+ years without any intelligence tests required for voters.

in fact, we're the leaders of the free world.

SecondFloor, where did you get your college degree?

The vote itself is an intelligence test of how well a citizen can discern what is in the collective best interest of his/her country. Sometimes the voters have done a better job, and sometimes worse. I think what concerns me and Thommy is that in the U.S. we seem to be at an extremely low point in voter competence, and this is allowing politicians to outright lie, call facts false, and trick citizens into voting against their interest.

Trump's America is not acting like a leader. In fact, Trump is open about his contempt for multilateral organizations like the U.N. How can the U.S. lead other nations when it is distancing itself from international cooperation? Trump is an isolationist, and a nation by itself can't lead anything.

University of Oregon, in Physics

then you're smart enough to know that in your scenario that puts requirements like education on citizens to be allowed to vote, smart people in charge won't let porners vote. why would they? your education won't save you.

No one is advocating that there be a test to determine voting rights. What we're saying is that public education needs to be a serious funding priority so that every person has the ability to fully understand issues that are critical to our governance. Stuff like macroeconomics, international diplomacy, and the critical importance of the scientific process in determining what is factual.

educated people will conclude that porn is not in the best interest of the USA. porners won't get a vote.

my point was made regardless of trump.

again, none of that was required in the past 240 years during which America rose to be the leader of the free world.

Thats absolutely correct, but the projection of power isn't the only goal. One example: Right now the stock market is soaring, but we're going on over 3 decades of wage stagnation, in large part because of republican policies that have weakened worker protections and unions. Many of the blue collar workers hurt by these policies voted for their authors. This is where a better education could have helped them.

The fact that the average American worker is squeezed doesn't necessarily weaken economic might. I could have a very profitable slave plantation, but that doesn't mean all is well just because its successful.

The economy of today is vastly different than that of America 200 years ago, and many voters don't seem to grasp it. Today, economic might is not just what a country produces within its borders, but by its ability to cooperate with other nations and project soft power via diplomacy. The Trump trade and foreign policy strategies are way out of step with the modern system.

Everyone you associate with perhaps..


Globalist is made up code word by white nationalists.. been used for years by them..

Yet of course we all know you are a recycled fake nick that was push extreme right wing bull shit here for years. Then each time you pop out of blue posting nonsense before the nick goes back into retirement..

..but we all know who you are... the hateful troll from the north.. Eonblue.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

the worlds seems to think you are the #1 threat to global peace tho...awkward...

Absolutely

Change my mind...

without globalism you would not even write here. internet would not exist and possibly america would never been found and europe would still live in the middle age where only rich people could afford to pay for salt.

every step humanity took in the past was based on new influences, new trading partners, new visions, new friends and new ideas.

and this is not since the word globalism exists - this is since thousands and thousands of years.

for me, globalism means nations working together to solve global problems like migration, global warming, world hunger, poverty, trade, and peace/war. those things won't stand a chance of being put in a better direction if nations don't work together. that's part of what's so irksome about euros trashing Americans like you see here daily on GFY and what motivates trump to say shit like "why should we help people that don't like us"?

I get that part too. nevertheless.

For me, globalism meant nwo type shit. Didn't look into all the indoctrinations and ideologies until like 15 minutes ago

Yup, answer stays the same.

https://www.livingroomconversations....spirations.jpg

you all might want to look up what the federal reserve is forecasting for US economic growth over the next three years.. very sad forecast as your moron in chief bankrupts America.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/mark...27-p506c1.html

your posts are like beautiful flowers on a pile of cow manure :thumbsup

Yes, global warming and poverty are fake inventions to push a secret alliance,the nwo.

Being an anti globalist, used to be a left wing thing in the late 90s early 2000s. Remember the riots and protest at the G20 summits? The Left used to be anti war too. What happened to that? The real reason they've abandoned all that is because Obama is black and Clinton is a woman. Thats it. Obama/Clinton got away with murder and lefties were silent. The only reason the loonie left dont like Trump is because he beat they Lady who they wanted so bad to be the first women president. Just so they could show the world "look at us, we're so progressive". Mean while we would probably be on the brink of WW3 with Russia and the middle east would be complete chaos would she have won.

Btw, who the flying fuck is EonBlue? Lol.

hillary's a cunt and I'm the most liberal motherfucker here.

this is one of your posts what i can agree to 100%

please more of that - i see you CAN

I have no idea why you ignored my PMing you an olive branch months ago. but you did. I tried to compromise a solution for us to get along in that PM.

nevertheless, if you'd relax on your finger-pointing at Americans, maybe you'd realize how wrong you are about me because then I wouldn't be having to deal with your finger-pointing at Americans.