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dyna mo 09-27-2018 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22340925)
For me, globalism meant nwo type shit. Didn't look into all the indoctrinations and ideologies until like 15 minutes ago

Just a few of the NWO agreements and treaties trump has reneged on:

Global Compact on Migration
Paris Climate Accord
UN funding for Palestinians
International Criminal Court
UN Commission on Human Rights
Trans Pacific Partnership
Iran nuke deal


Are any of those a negative impact on you as an American patriot?

ilnjscb 09-27-2018 10:02 AM

My friends, globalism, both good and bad, is inevitable. There will be some kicking and fighting, but in the end we will be answering to a global government.

thommy 09-27-2018 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22341104)
I have no idea why you ignored my PMing you an olive branch months ago. but you did. I tried to compromise a solution for us to get along in that PM.

nevertheless, if you'd relax on your finger-pointing at Americans, maybe you'd realize how wrong you are about me because then I wouldn't be having to deal with your finger-pointing at Americans.

1st. i will not send a screenshot of my PMs but just looked there - there is no PM from you

2nd. I am fingerpointing on whoever when I see a failure in the system. no matter if it is america, germany, russia or vatican-city.

when i read your own lines i can see that YOU KNOW that there are TONNS of failures in the us system. if a country wants to be a world leader it have to be the best example
for a functional system. self critics is the first step to understand that.

being able to criticize yourself and your own country would be such a role model function but you interpret that as a personal attack.
here it helps to put national pride far back and to look at things from an objective perspective.
and exactly there your problem lies with you because your national pride prevents you from doing so.

and this is where my criticism comes in because i don't have something like national pride I see myself as a world citizen and that makes me able to see things from every perspective. believe me we both are not that far from each other when it comes to basic ideologies - but think about this lines and you will see that you indeed have a problem with that mentioned point.

SecondFloor 09-27-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22341108)
Just a few of the NWO agreements and treaties trump has reneged on:

Global Compact on Migration
Paris Climate Accord
UN funding for Palestinians
International Criminal Court
UN Commission on Human Rights
Trans Pacific Partnership
Iran nuke deal


Are any of those a negative impact on you as an American patriot?

Yeah man, they definitely impact me. Here's how:

Paris Climate Accord - This affects all Americans because it affects everyone on earth. Even sticking to the accords, the world will have to deal with a projected 2 degree rise in temperatures that will raise sea levels and contribute to devastating natural disasters. Even the most right-wing capitalists should be concerned that, unless we combat climate change, coastal infrastructure will be destroyed. The coast is where the vast majority of US citizens live.

International Criminal Court - The purpose of the ICC is to prosecute people convicted of genocide, war crimes, and basic human rights violations. The United States has always claimed to be an ardent defender of human rights. If America wants to show its support of human rights is more than just lip service, it should support the ICC in its mission to convict war criminals and bring them to justice.

UN Commission on Human Rights - The purpose of this commission is to create a consensus between nations that an individual nation has been committing human rights abuses, and to take actions to stop it. This organization is largely toothless, and the human rights records of the members are dubious, but Its still useful for nations to address heinous crimes with a unified front. I can't imagine why any American (or any human with empathy) wouldn't want human rights abusers named and shamed by the international community.

Trans Pacific Partnership - The TPP was created primarily to pressure China to end its unfair trade practices, something which Trump's administration clearly thinks is a big problem. Rather than implement TPP, the Trump admin decided to withdraw and impose tariffs, the cost of which is passed to the American consumer. Now, instead of standing against China with the help of other nations, the U.S. stands alone, taxing its own citizens to wage an ineffective trade war with Beijing. This is of major concern to U.S. citizens who bear the cost.

Iran nuke deal - This deal, brokered by America with the involvement of many other nations, represented real progress in engaging Iran diplomatically to stop its Nuclear program. According to the accounts of the international inspectors, Iran totally complied with the deal, as did the other countries involved. Now, with the U.S. pulled out, the deal is in danger of disintegrating, and if that does happen, the whole world may have to deal with a nuclear Iran.

UN funding for Palestinians & Global Compact on Migration - You're right that these things don't really affect the average American citizen. But I think they affect people with empathy and compassion for their fellow humans who are suffering. Palestine is one of the worst places to be in the entire world right now. The West Bank is blockaded, Hamas has a stranglehold on the government, and the citizens there are struggling to get basic necessities like clean water and electricity. I can't imagine why anyone would want the people of Palestine to suffer because of a dispute they were born into. Similarly, I don't know why any American would want to willfully ignore the plight of refugees desperate for the bare minimum to survive.

SecondFloor 09-27-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22341156)
when i read your own lines i can see that YOU KNOW that there are TONNS of failures in the us system. if a country wants to be a world leader it have to be the best example
for a functional system. self critics is the first step to understand that.

Totally agree with this. Admitting mistakes is not weakness - its strength. Its also necessary for positive growth. America should not be afraid to hear criticism, from its own citizens or anyone else.

dyna mo 09-27-2018 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22341156)
1st. i will not send a screenshot of my PMs but just looked there - there is no PM from you

2nd. I am fingerpointing on whoever when I see a failure in the system. no matter if it is america, germany, russia or vatican-city.

when i read your own lines i can see that YOU KNOW that there are TONNS of failures in the us system. if a country wants to be a world leader it have to be the best example
for a functional system. self critics is the first step to understand that.

being able to criticize yourself and your own country would be such a role model function but you interpret that as a personal attack.
here it helps to put national pride far back and to look at things from an objective perspective.
and exactly there your problem lies with you because your national pride prevents you from doing so.

and this is where my criticism comes in because i don't have something like national pride I see myself as a world citizen and that makes me able to see things from every perspective. believe me we both are not that far from each other when it comes to basic ideologies - but think about this lines and you will see that you indeed have a problem with that mentioned point.

you seem to think I am incapable of realizing the issues plaguing America. The fact is I learned the hard way a long time ago that GFY is not the place to do that. I defend America here.

I sent my olive branch PM to you in July:

https://i.imgur.com/kEt4iTF.jpg

dyna mo 09-27-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22341163)
Totally agree with this. Admitting mistakes is not weakness - its strength. Its also necessary for positive growth. America should not be afraid to hear criticism, from its own citizens or anyone else.

not on GFY.

thommy 09-27-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22341171)
you seem to think I am incapable of realizing the issues plaguing America. The fact is I learned the hard way a long time ago that GFY is not the place to do that. I defend America here.

I sent my olive branch PM to you in July:

https://i.imgur.com/kEt4iTF.jpg

i swear you it is not there - but I donīt know about the functionality of this board.

til today you was on my ignore list. maybe the system does not send PMs in that case.
anyway - i removed you now and I hope we can start that thing again on a real discussion base.

that does not mean that we have to agree in positions but this is what a discussion is here for and i am really open to get thought-provoking emotions instead learning new insulting phrases (all my german hardcore insulting vocabulary is anyway not translatable)

deal ?

dyna mo 09-27-2018 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22341179)
i swear you it is not there - but I donīt know about the functionality of this board.

til today you was on my ignore list. maybe the system does not send PMs in that case.
anyway - i removed you now and I hope we can start that thing again on a real discussion base.

that does not mean that we have to agree in positions but this is what a discussion is here for and i am really open to get thought-provoking emotions instead learning new insulting phrases (all my german hardcore insulting vocabulary is anyway not translatable)

deal ?

Sounds like a good deal to me.


I do feel strongly that you come across like you blame a lot of good Americans for most things wrong in the world. I'm also not ever going to be able to explain things like guns or the electoral college or any of the other myriad of things that make America different.

King Mark 09-28-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22341108)
Just a few of the NWO agreements and treaties trump has reneged on:

Global Compact on Migration
Paris Climate Accord
UN funding for Palestinians
International Criminal Court
UN Commission on Human Rights
Trans Pacific Partnership
Iran nuke deal


Are any of those a negative impact on you as an American patriot?

I'd have to read a lot to answer that. I will when I do.

But for clarification, I am not a Trump supporter. He's a fucking idiot. But I wholeheartedly support my country.

DraX 09-29-2018 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22340861)
Thommy - you're right - I read everything you said and I agree with you.

You made a good point about advertising, that people fall for cheap political tricks the way they fall for advertising schemes. Maybe this is part of the root of the problem. Wealthy capitalists don't really want well-informed citizens who would see through advertising techniques, consume less garbage, and vote in their own interests. They want people easily persuaded - even without facts or evidence.

I think the U.S. has this problem worse than others, but I also worry deeply about European countries going the same route - Orban's Hungary, Andrzej Duda's Poland, and other un-democratic trends in the EU. I think the motivations behind the far-right movements in Europe are often similar to those in the U.S.

I find it interesting you label Poland and Hungary as un-democratic and mainly what they've done is say no to immigrants that do not tend to be real immigrants. Have you missed all the news about Sweden, Germany, Holland and how immigrants are repaying the hospitality of these countries?

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22342005)
I find it interesting you label Poland and Hungary as un-democratic and mainly what they've done is say no to immigrants that do not tend to be real immigrants. Have you missed all the news about Sweden, Germany, Holland and how immigrants are repaying the hospitality of these countries?

well you could put the problem in proper perspective by listing how many refugees/immigrants there are in europe and how many bad things they did...you would also have to compare what they did with the number of non immigrants and how many bad things the non immigrants did...

for example the sweedish government does not agree with you:

https://www.government.se/articles/2...ime-in-sweden/

BaldBastard 09-29-2018 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22342005)
I find it interesting you label Poland and Hungary as un-democratic and mainly what they've done is say no to immigrants that do not tend to be real immigrants. Have you missed all the news about Sweden, Germany, Holland and how immigrants are repaying the hospitality of these countries?

Do your same new sources publish statics on Polish and Hungarian immigrants in other countries ?

Like if I'm walking down the street in Germany and there's a Muslim gang on one side of the road and a Polish one on the other side, Are I best to cross to one side or the other.. or head to the middle of the road and run like fuck cos one groups as bad as the other.

klinton 09-29-2018 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22342013)
Do your same new sources publish statics on Polish and Hungarian immigrants in other countries ?

Like if I'm walking down the street in Germany and there's a Muslim gang on one side of the road and a Polish one on the other side, Are I best to cross to one side or the other.. or head to the middle of the road and run like fuck cos one groups as bad as the other.

there are no gangs on the corner of anyone in Europe, it's not America :)
some casual drunk violence, thats all.

thommy 09-29-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22342011)

for example the sweedish government does not agree with you:

https://www.government.se/articles/2...ime-in-sweden/

facts canīt make fake news sources profitable.
and facts lead to guilt that some can see in the mirror.
it is easier to believe lies than to understand the complexity of the truth

remember your own childhood. wasn't it the "black man" who comes when you are naughty?

what is happening here in the world right now is not least due to the internet because we are just starting to deal with each other and many things seem completely strange. it will take one or two more generations until we realize that the world is also full of individuals of whom not one thinks exactly the same as the other.

klinton 09-29-2018 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22342005)
I find it interesting you label Poland and Hungary as un-democratic and mainly what they've done is say no to immigrants

its not about these countries stance towards immigrants. Their governments took anti- democratic course, taking over all institutions in the country and tramping down the others.
Juidicial system, mass media, NGOs, military.Just to give as less independent course as possible. its a slow proccess, but in Hungary they almost succeed in what they wanted, in Poland its little different but still...step by step.
Something like a (much) lighter version of Putin's Russia or Erdogan's Turkey.

And yes, I oppose these changes and I consider these governemnts as idiots.

Also - as for the immigrants. I seriously doubt that they would even like to live in Poland or Hungary. Lower salaries, similar prices of many things to the western Europe - why even bother ? So all these talk about mass migrants blabla is bullshit, as noone wants to live in a country where you spend 80 % of your salary for rent and food, where you can live in a country where rent and food is maybe 50 % of your salary...
There are some migrants though in Poland already from India, Pakistan, maybe Syria, Egypt, Turkey, Morocco....I have nothing against them. But they are nothing in number though comparing to 2,5 mln immigrants from Ukraine (which is like 7-8 % of total Poland's population).

DraX 09-29-2018 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22342011)
well you could put the problem in proper perspective by listing how many refugees/immigrants there are in europe and how many bad things they did...you would also have to compare what they did with the number of non immigrants and how many bad things the non immigrants did...

for example the sweedish government does not agree with you:

https://www.government.se/articles/2...ime-in-sweden/

Oh you're taking facts straight from the official Swedish government website, it's like taking facts straight from the EU text book. Everything is fine according to them, did they not speak of the extra problematic zones that was none existent 15-20 years ago? How strange?! Did they not mention all the gang shootings by 1st gen and 2nd gen immigrants mainly from middle east, yes your Muslim friends that was none existent 15-20 years. How odd, how could that be, aren't the Swedish politicians aware of what's going on?

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22342013)
Do your same new sources publish statics on Polish and Hungarian immigrants in other countries ?

Like if I'm walking down the street in Germany and there's a Muslim gang on one side of the road and a Polish one on the other side, Are I best to cross to one side or the other.. or head to the middle of the road and run like fuck cos one groups as bad as the other.

You worried about walking the streets in Germany while living in Australia? :1orglaugh

You're not the slightest trustworthy.

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22342019)
its not about these countries stance towards immigrants. Their governments took anti- democratic course, taking over all institutions in the country and tramping down the others.
Juidicial system, mass media, NGOs, military.Just to give as less independent course as possible. its a slow proccess, but in Hungary they almost succeed in what they wanted, in Poland its little different but still...step by step.
Something like a (much) lighter version of Putin's Russia or Erdogan's Turkey.

And yes, I oppose these changes and I consider these governemnts as idiots.

Also - as for the immigrants. I seriously doubt that they would even like to live in Poland or Hungary. Lower salaries, similar prices of many things to the western Europe - why even bother ? So all these talk about mass migrants blabla is bullshit, as noone wants to live in a country where you spend 80 % of your salary for rent and food, where you can live in a country where rent and food is maybe 50 % of your salary...
There are some migrants though in Poland already from India, Pakistan, maybe Syria, Egypt, Turkey, Morocco....I have nothing against them. But they are nothing in number though comparing to 2,5 mln immigrants from Ukraine (which is like 7-8 % of total Poland's population).

Shame on them, fleeing from a war zone full to the brink with suffering, rape, murder, killing and from a financial perspective Poland and Hungary is not good enough. great argument klinton which also reveals the true problem, majority are not refugees but luxury immigrants.

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22342038)
Oh you're taking facts straight from the official Swedish government website, it's like taking facts straight from the EU text book. Everything is fine according to them, did they not speak of the extra problematic zones that was none existent 15-20 years ago? How strange?! Did they not mention all the gang shootings by 1st gen and 2nd gen immigrants mainly from middle east, yes your Muslim friends that was none existent 15-20 years. How odd, how could that be, aren't the Swedish politicians aware of what's going on?
.

oh so you know better than the government of sweeden? :1orglaugh

can you post some facts then?...no?...

I bet you will squirm around posting actual facts but find a great excuse as to why you can not...

BaldBastard 09-29-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22342015)
there are no gangs on the corner of anyone in Europe, it's not America :)
some casual drunk violence, thats all.

No that cant be true I read it on Murdoch media, there's gangs of muzzies everywhere, women of Europe don't go out any more and the men all stay home guarding their doors with guns.. in case the muzzies come knocking.. ask any Russian.. its FACT. they know

I mean.. just look at what's happening in Sweden


klinton 09-29-2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22342038)
majority are not refugees but luxury immigrants.

its obvious. but saying "luxury" is well, kind of... try to live in Africa/ North Africa for 200 euros as a family... so luxury NOT, economic - YES.
I see nothing wrog in that, too bad though that Europe is not XIX century US, where people actually HAD to work to survive :winkwink::winkwink:. too bad also thats not the USA, fresh country made by immigrants from all around the world, sharing similar values :winkwink:

crockett 09-29-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22342015)
there are no gangs on the corner of anyone in Europe, it's not America :)
some casual drunk violence, thats all.

They aren't in America either.. gangs and general slumlords usually stay in their little pockets of influence. The areas with gangs are usually areas no normal person would need to go to anyway.

I often go into some of these areas and never had a problem. It's not like some Hollywood movie that you get shot at driving down a street..

King Mark 09-29-2018 12:39 PM

It's like that in ny. Gangs fight gangs, not even allowed to bother civilians. Infact civilians are to be protected. White folks jogging and walking their poodles right past murderers that will hold the door open for you and help you get your groceries in the building.

DraX 09-29-2018 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22342120)
oh so you know better than the government of sweeden? :1orglaugh

can you post some facts then?...no?...

I bet you will squirm around posting actual facts but find a great excuse as to why you can not...

CRUSIFISSIO!

Just a little taste of what's going on and Swedish government should absolutely not be trusted...:2 cents:

Arson attacks:

2016
https://www.thelocal.se/20160810/sou...car-fire-trend

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-racist-Swedes

2017
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...aks-out-sweden

2018
https://www.dw.com/en/wave-of-arson-...ies/a-45074080

Anti-semitism against Jews:

Anti-Semitism in Sweden Forces Jews to Question their Future - Israel National News

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Perpetrators primarily Muslim immigrants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Sweden

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/o...tism-jews.html

Quote:

In 2015, Sweden was second only to Germany in the number of Syrian refugees it welcomed. Yet the three men arrested in the Molotov cocktail attack were newly arrived immigrants, two Syrians and a Palestinian.
No-go Zones:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...e-lose-control

https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-poli...o-zones-628029

https://www.breitbart.com/london/201...5-no-go-areas/

Tim Pool:


Tim Pool about Sweden in response to Trump's comment, mind it was a short stay and he's not living there but he's one of the best left journalists around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=v0p7Oyvql9s

Paul Joseph Watson interviewing Tim Pool after the visit to Sweden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=GYdl-Kf9e_I

DraX 09-29-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22342124)
No that cant be true I read it on Murdoch media, there's gangs of muzzies everywhere, women of Europe don't go out any more and the men all stay home guarding their doors with guns.. in case the muzzies come knocking.. ask any Russian.. its FACT. they know

I mean.. just look at what's happening in Sweden


Quite ignorant of you to post a video of a forest rave in Sweden to describe there's no problems in Sweden. you want to be taken seriously?

klinton 09-29-2018 04:07 PM

YES SWEDEN, SWEDEN YES :winkwink::winkwink:

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 04:57 PM

@drax

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you are paul markhaming again...I did not ask for your 10 second google search cherry pick....I asked for FACTS

you either have facts that are supported by verifiable evidence from reputable sources, or you do not know what you are talking about...your stats must contain:

1) all the things white boys did
2) all the things non-white boys did
3) comparison of the 1 and 2

now if you do not have this, you obviously do not know what you are talking about and the government of sweeden knows better than you :2 cents:

you seem so sure, why dont you just prove me wrong with actual numbers?


(I bet OP will do a 20 second google search this time and post more cherry pick articles without any real statistics and comparison to white boy crime) :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 05:12 PM

drax > sweedish government :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 05:18 PM

drax did careful research and acquired knowledge that is greater than the entire sweedish government :2 cents::thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 05:24 PM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


https://www.thelocal.se/userdata/ima...3fa1c14902.jpg

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 05:32 PM

drax:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=ru

DraX 09-29-2018 06:09 PM

Serbian bottom feeder links to official Swedish government website and pretends he knows stuff. Apart from that he hates America and wants to see a caliphate in Europe, he enjoys eating dinner with his own kind in the middle east while spreading his hate propaganda.

Every time a story hits the news revealing that the religion of peace isn't so peaceful he quickly arrives to do the daily damage control. Every negative news piece of his precious Muslim brothers and sisters must be buried and deflected at all times.

Ah look one of your friends...:1orglaugh

https://angelforisrael.files.wordpre...lim-man-2.jpeg

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22342244)
Serbian bottom feeder links to official Swedish government website and pretends he knows stuff. Apart from that he hates America and wants to see a caliphate in Europe, he enjoys eating dinner with his own kind in the middle east while spreading his hate propaganda.

Every time a story hits the news revealing that the religion of peace isn't so peaceful he quickly arrives to do the daily damage control. Every negative news piece of his precious Muslim brothers and sisters must be buried and deflected at all times.

Ah look one of your friends...:1orglaugh

https://angelforisrael.files.wordpre...lim-man-2.jpeg

You claim to know better than the sweedish government so the burden of proof is upon you...you can either post some stats as described above, or you are paul markhaming...

Just post stats...should be easy for somebody who is more knowledgeable than an entire government...

pimpmaster9000 09-29-2018 07:10 PM

Drax is about to post stats any minute now...he knows better than an entire european government...will be easy for him...

klinton 09-30-2018 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22342285)
Drax is about to post stats any minute now...he knows better than an entire european government...will be easy for him...

are you aware that Sweden is a bad example when it goes to government's common sense ?
Whole Sweden is like a brainwashed marxist/feminist society mixed with abusrd political corectness...

pimpmaster9000 09-30-2018 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22342367)
are you aware that Sweden is a bad example when it goes to government's common sense ?
Whole Sweden is like a brainwashed marxist/feminist society mixed with abusrd political corectness...

Yes this will make it really really easy for drax to post stats...I posted stats but drax was like "i know better"...so now we will all learn...he is just so meticulous with his research that it will take a while to post all his stats....


Any minute now...real stats...not cherry picked paul markham type searches...

Drax? Bruh?

pimpmaster9000 09-30-2018 04:46 AM

drax knows better than sweeden statistics in 3,2,1....



































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