thats why its important to not repeat history, hope you understand this ;]

It is Tito (one T) :)

Yugoslavia was a bad idea from the first day. Too much difference between nations, religions and too much centralization from Beograd (Serbia). If it wasn't war, economy would snap it in even more pieces than it did.

Exactly. Learn from history. That's a totally different thing than being ashamed for someone elses behavior that you cannot control.

again you have trouble reading...did I mention war? no...it is just you having reading problems or your IQ is too low to understand...

all of europe OWES their former colonies and victims a chance of a better life by leaving them alone and NOT eating US shit...(reading problem help: not money or war)...I did not mention war <----concentrate your tiny brain...I did not mention money <----concentrate your tiny brain....

the EU does not have a right to complain about the smell of US shit, while it actively eats US foreign policy ass...the EU does not have the right to complain about people running away from US foreign policy while the EU actively supports US foreign policy...

if you do not like the smell of US foreign policy shit, do not let the US shit on your part of the world (not war <----concentrate)...if you do not understand this very very simple idea you are stupid and I can not explain it any simpler :thumbsup

tito was croat...serbs had no problems living under a croat...the same croats who sided with the nazis, had concentration camps and held serb speed killing competitions and you even had a specialized knife for it:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbosjek

and then croats got angry when tito went away...they formed their own terrorist organization and hijacked airplanes, attacked embassies and even planned to blow up the statue of liberty:

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/23/u...americans.html

"The arrest of nine Croatian nationalists last month, which Federal agents say halted ''the most violent terrorist group in the United States,'' has brought an uneasy calm to the nation's two million Croatian-Americans."

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i know what you mean but i have had an interesting experience 2 years ago when i was visiting Vietnam.

these dwarves with an average height of 1.45 meters tossed out the americans with stones and bamboo sticks and sacrificed millions of people for it.

nevertheless, nobody hates america or the americans. i have never seen a country in my life where technical schooling has reached the brains so well and political schooling so badly.

even though it's still a dictatorial communist regime today, a lot has changed. i'm sure in 10 or 15 years vietnam won't be communist anymore and it will go this way without blood and wars. simply because the people there are so eager to learn and have the education to know how to receive qualified information.

in vietnam time will repair it - in other countries where these learning possibilities are missing (like in many islamic states where people often can't even read or write) the way will be longer and harder, because we are not able (and for egoistic reasons not willing) to transport education there.

the problem of our time are the technical achievements we have made. in the past no country could destroy the world - in 10 years every banana state can. this raises completely different problems. there are only 2 ways with which mankind can survive.
1. a worldwide dictatorship that is forced with blood and war.

or

2. a global democracy that makes it essential to make compromises and take a step towards each other

The 3rd option is the complete destruction of the planet.

it is in our hands which of them becomes real

you are contradicting yourself because you are believe in things that are PROVEN wrong.

how do I rise against it? on twitter or gfy perhaps? :1orglaugh

but anyway, like I said - I 100% reject the idiotic logic of historical guilt
that "white guilt" shit is the biggest leftist nonsense

but the following tells a lot about you:

quite a historian I see, nice recollection of 1940-1945 age of nazi europe / croatia

lets go 50 years in the future to modern age, 1991 and beyond, when Serbian paramilitary was slaughtering Croats, locking them in concentration camps, and singing songs about "we'll get meat from butchering Croats, we just need some salad with it"

you see, from your selective history choice, I see you're just a miserable frustrated Serb, just because NATO bombed your asses back to stone age because you wanted to do the same to Kosovo :thumbsup

hypocrisy is a bad thing, cheers.

protest against the USA shitting on our side of the world...expel US diplomats...introduce sanctions...

your right wing "no white man is ever guilty" nonsense is most amusing...



well yes they remember WW2 and how croats murdered everybody left and right, and when your new nationalist/separatist/terrorist leader franjo tudjman, author of a book on guerilla warfare, got support from honest honest bill clinton: the region panicked

you make croatia sound like the cradle of innocence :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

to this day you celebrate "oluja" where you ethnically cleansed 200.000 people in 1 day...where there is smoke, there is fire :2 cents:

croat history IRL:
"The Croats promptly set about exterminating or deporting the minority Serbs in their new state with a barbarism that shocked even the war-hardened German troops."

maybe you are the ones that are shit? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nope. USA is shitting on YOUR side of the world, because you're shitting on others.
You know, like when child bullies a smaller child and then a bigger child steps in and gives some deserved spanking.

Croatia got no problems with USA (or anyone for that matter), we're not fucking around with neighbors.

For fucks sake, even Putin told your president to chill the fuck out, couple of days ago.

Don't twist my words please. I was very precise in what I said.

See? We're efficient as fuck.

Offer EU countries an open trade deal instead of the EU and the whole thing collapses. The only reason to stay in the EU is trade. That was why it started out as the Common Market and has taken more and more power.

Fiddy i like poos !!! :)

We can argue about anything around here . . .

Islam is Islam. It depends on whet texts of the Holy books you adhere to.

Christianity in the main does not demand the death of those who disagree with a version of Islam the killer adheres to.

you are dead right about power and influence. The EU and unelected bureaucrats wield too much power over Europe.

It's not the responsibility of educated countries to educate those who are under elected. Who will pay for that?

Tell us how we solve the problems and how much it will cost?

keep eating US ass in your ethnically pure croatia then...it is just history repeating that croats murder serbs and side with the invaders...I hope the 10$/day extra that you make than bombed out serbia was worth it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the rest of europe will get flooded with US shit and I will be in south or central america laughing...it is what you get for being US lapdogs...but you will make nice $$$ for the american military industrial complex :thumbsup and one day when the rest of the world arms up you will be fighting their proxy war for them or getting racketeered in to paying """"""Defense""""""" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh'''


yes I know this is why nobody wanted to live under your terrorist leaders :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbosjek

"In the Jasenovac concentration camp competitions in speedy slaughter were organized by the Ustaše. The winner of one such competition, Petar Brzica slit the throats of 1,300[9] (or 1360 [10]) prisoners."

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...%80%931945.jpg

good luck with that, hope you find true happiness, then and there :thumbsup

trade is based on same money and same standards.
and it will also only make sense when every country helps the other to keep or gain trading power.

the first mistake of britain was already not to use the euro.
this made longterm deals unpredictable because a company that orders for the next season in some other country of the EU did never know how much it will be than.

the second mistake of ALL EU countries (but britain in front) was/is that they all want to make their rules as standard and this can not work.

a unity need same rules for everybody. and to keep everybody "happy" they implemented ALL negative from EVERY country instead just taking the best one.
we have the best example in porn. if a german or french webmaster is doing the same as a dutch webmaster he will go for many years to jail.

and now let´s talk about security standards !
how can one country with high security standards buy from another one that does not have the same standards? and how can this country with the high standards sell to one with low standards? the production costs for high standards are much higher and not competitive to low standard production.

we always come back to the point that it is IMPOSSIBLE to explain people economy who do not have a clue about it. but exactly this was leading to the brexit because people have been so dumb that they believed in lies what have been proven lies already one day after the vote.

http://cdn3.spiegel.de/images/image-...wo-1012936.jpg

so christians are the "educated" ones?

why do they have to steal and falsificate another religion?

the answer is: because they are a biz like every other religion is (because every other religion except a few natural ones are stolen from the same gilgamesch epos)
and as long as people don´t even know that there are no educated ones on no side.

the only different in the christian culture is that there are many who woke up and left the religion. so yes there are more UNRELIGIOS in the west - that´s the point.

You talk absolute garbage sometimes.

Countries are forming trade deals all the time without adopting the same laws and currency. Does Germany have the Renminbi and allow China to dictate it's laws? Does it effect other countries using different currencies? your ideology about the same rules is garbage.

The good thing is the UK stayed out of the single currency. Lumbering Germany to under right other countries massive debts. Sometime those debts will come home to rest.

You obviously know nothing about exports and imports. Goods sent or received from abroad must conform the the standards of the importing countries. That way we can do business with non-EU countries without being ruled by them.

I fail to see why it's impossible for you to grasp the obvious truth.

List the projects that only could have been achieved by the EU and you will see the pros of membership. List the bad things the EU has done to see the cons. Start with the EU, Euro, migration, freedom of movement, etc.

More educates than Muslims. Belief in any form of god is a sign of a poor education. As you point out some are based on 3000 year old gilgamesch fables. Which probable go back further than that in oral stories. That's why in the West most people are giving up on religion.

You complain about the Mormons and there wanting to go back 200 years. Does that include executing people for little or no reason today?

Great point :thumbsup

it is funny to explain someone with no skills in economy how economy works.

why do you think jaguar builds for the continent with steering left?
CORRECT ! because otherwise they wouldn't be bought there !

and do you think that makes the production for jaguar cheaper?
no ! and therefore they are much too expensive - which is another reason why only a few of them are sold!

without common standards, a product cannot even bear the same name.
marmelade and jam for example are 2 very different products. now ask an austrian if he knows what jam is. they have only ONE WORD for it and that is called MARMELADE (and they complained a lot when they had to change there common standard)

germany also had to accept that beers coming from abroad and actually not allowed to exist in germany at all according to a set of 1516 should be called beer. 15 years ago they weren't even allowed to be on german shelves because they are full of chemistry.
since then you have to look closely at beer to see if it is a real or a chemical beer. but the Germans had to bow to the fact that marmelade can only consist of fruits if it wants to be called that way and jam contains mainly sugar water.

and if you ask me we would need even more standards and EU regulations because i still buy the same tablets in germany for over 50 € and in spain for the same product I pay 2,69 €.

i would call it also good if on "bananas from spain" also the information is written that they actually come from peru and were packed only in spain

how will you trade if every importing country first has to research what is legally allowed in a supplier country and what is not?

there have always been standards in trade - because how else could you buy a screw in size 10 if you don't even know what the 10 stands for and each country has a different standard.

england just wants to leave everything at its own standards. the others should change that.
all over europe the inch measure for screens has been adopted but the decimal meter system, which is also valid in the whole EU, has not been adopted by england until today. don't you think that this costs time and manpower?

again - you are not anybody who ever run a big business with many employees. so you try to explain something where you do not have the smallest skills.
people who do not know what are they talking about should not make the rules or even complain the existing ones because they can´t come up with better ideas.

No you're against the EU because you want Europe to be weak.

If you loved "your" country you'd want to reform the EU, not disband it.

You have far right radical views and spew Russian propaganda here constantly. You said you'd rather move to Russia over America. It's clear why you want the EU disbanded and it has nothing to do with your love of the country you immigrated to, yet have nothing good to say about, Holland.

You jealous foreigners always trying to stir the pot with Europeans. Lame

I couldn't imagine going to a board like GFY online and speaking a foreign language, talking about a foreign country and their people and their politics and telling them they don't love their country trying to cause conflict it's just bizarre. You'd literally have to have no life, and a shity existence in your own country, to think that was fun or an escape from your demise or worth your time :(



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You forgot to login to your Nico-T nic in your reply to me :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I see you had to cut out some of my post, and alter it, to make a false equivalency.

Unfortunate that you can't be honest to make a valid point.

I'm not on a Dutch speaking board, pretending to be Dutch, posting about Dutch politics every day, with multiple fake nics.

Yeah, you got me there. :helpme

One word change: Americans -> Europeans

But more than enough to prove you're a hypocrite :)

Nope, but you are on an English speaking board, speaking about Brexit :1orglaugh

So countries outside the EU are unable to trade with each other because they have different standards? And non-EU countries can't import into the EU.

As for bananas we don't have them in Europe as they are grown in tropical climates.

And oil and gas are forbidden in the EU unless they come from EU countries.

Do you ever think before you post?

Yeah because my family is from the British Isles you moron. Your false equivalencies are so weak.

Still waiting for Thommy to name the things that only could have been achieved by the EU, could not of been done before and not done by other countries. Can he help us?

it is a least MUCH harder and only the cheap price gives that a sense.
EU imports and exports were growing a few 100% since the Euro.
is that not prove enough?

paul, england and CZ are not the only countries in the EU.
i have a banana tree here in my house in spain and they are a huge export good for spain.

what ??? i did not get that. we do have oil and gas in the EU but we still need to import from non EU countries. and in oil and gas are INTERNATIONAL standards. the only incalculable aspect is the price because these goods are usually sold in US-dollar because it is not only the price it is also the exchange rate what can change here and this is a double risk.

actually the EU is working on oil trade deals with iran in euro instead of dollars and that
makes much more sense for the EU countries.

yes i do and when i tell you something about anything you can be sure that it is something i was already interested in before.

but the real problem is that I do understand economy and you are not.
it was and is my fucking job to understand that and if i would be bad in that i would probably also live in CZ today in a cheap old home and cry about the good times in the past when every lame idiot could make money.

you might have other qualities that I do not have but in economy you are definitely
on a very low knowledge level.

So countries that are not in the EU can trade with the EU and the EU has signed trade treaties with non-EU countries and does trade with non-EU countries. Thank you for agreeing with me at last.

This will educate you more.

And https://cer.eu/in-the-press/eu-has-3...n-after-brexit

Now tell us what the EU has achieved that no other country has done.

Good luck with supplying bananas from only EU countries. LOL

paul, you are a fucking moron.

the BIGGEST advantage of the EU is that negotiations are taking place with a UNITY.
This is no longer a matter of individual countries buying, but of a large community that no country in the world can oversee.

Exactly THIS IS why the EU is hated by putin and trump and that's why fake news and simple but untrue explanations are delivered to naive people like you to destroy this community from inside.

who do you think will benefit from a trade agreement between USA and GB (should it ever be concluded) if Great Britain is only a small dispensable part over the big pond?

what do you think would happen if not the USA but every single US state concluded trade agreements ?

you don't understand anything but nothing about the world economy and the bundled purchasing power.

the EU is exactly that what you're preaching here. the states have OBLIGATED themselves to buy from each other, they have agreed on common values and standards and act as a UNITY to the outside with these very standards.
trade is not ONLY easier inside the EU with same standards it is also easier with other countries.

maybe you would have been happy in your time if your film cassettes each had a different format. or maybe even your own format for yourself. but nobody would have produced it for you mister super smart because you are easy to overlook.

everything you write here sounds like you've flown over some fake news article 5 minutes before but not like KNOWLEDGE.

you are a retired pussy picture taker and that is also granted to you. but you were never, are not and will never be someone who has even a hint of idea about the subject of economy.

i mean, look at you. where did your economic wisdom take you? you wouldn't even be able to survive financially in your country of birth. and YOU tell us something about economics? do you think anyone needs a goat to take care of the leaf salad?

btw. it looks like you just found the headline of this article and did not read it.

so i will copy the important part for you from YOUR article:

next time you send me a "prove" read ist first !!

Yes, that is why me stop the EU! Or the dutch webmaster just move to another coutry where they also don't give a shit :)

the most important lines in that nice beatles songs for you :

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head

There's no revolution without destruction . . .

what have that to do with the EU ?

nothing !

if the EU would be same a german webmaster would be able to make his money the same way as the dutch webmaster can.

but youth protection is not regulated from the EU it is based on country laws and not on EU laws. so if you hate this law in your country (and I don´t know WHY you should because you are in one of the most liberal) you should blame holland and not the EU.

blah blah blah

Hillary lost the election. Deal with it.

That is step 2, they will make all laws the same and that will be worse than the laws in Holland.

I remember i could stay in Brazil for 6 months, cause the Benelux had an agreement with Brazil that both countries had 6 months visa. Than suddenly Brazil had to make a deal with the EU. And than the same rule for Eurpeans in Brazil and Brazilian in the EU counted, people can maximum stay for 3 months.. Thanks EU.. And that is how it will go with all laws, all wil be changed for European laws.