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Tasty1 10-15-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22350024)
the most important lines in that nice beatles songs for you :

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head

Well, i hear the EU talking a lot of destruction of Poland...
In the end, the Brexit will be allright.

Paul Markham 10-16-2018 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22349979)
paul, you are a fucking moron.

the BIGGEST advantage of the EU is that negotiations are taking place with a UNITY.
This is no longer a matter of individual countries buying, but of a large community that no country in the world can oversee.

Exactly THIS IS why the EU is hated by putin and trump and that's why fake news and simple but untrue explanations are delivered to naive people like you to destroy this community from inside.

who do you think will benefit from a trade agreement between USA and GB (should it ever be concluded) if Great Britain is only a small dispensable part over the big pond?

what do you think would happen if not the USA but every single US state concluded trade agreements ?

you don't understand anything but nothing about the world economy and the bundled purchasing power.

the EU is exactly that what you're preaching here. the states have OBLIGATED themselves to buy from each other, they have agreed on common values and standards and act as a UNITY to the outside with these very standards.
trade is not ONLY easier inside the EU with same standards it is also easier with other countries.

maybe you would have been happy in your time if your film cassettes each had a different format. or maybe even your own format for yourself. but nobody would have produced it for you mister super smart because you are easy to overlook.

everything you write here sounds like you've flown over some fake news article 5 minutes before but not like KNOWLEDGE.

you are a retired pussy picture taker and that is also granted to you. but you were never, are not and will never be someone who has even a hint of idea about the subject of economy.

i mean, look at you. where did your economic wisdom take you? you wouldn't even be able to survive financially in your country of birth. and YOU tell us something about economics? do you think anyone needs a goat to take care of the leaf salad?

Now it's only an advantage to be in the EU. :1orglaugh

That advantage is what? Not the single currency as not EU countries were foolish enough to join it, not even having the same standards applies across the EU. The UK drives on the left but EU countries have no problem adapting to sell cars.

If the EU countries were allowed to negotiate trade deals it would be a damn faster than the long EU process.Maybe a decent trade deal with the US might force them into buying more from the UK.

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The United States had $686 billion in total (two ways) goods trade with the European Union during 2016, its largest Goods trade partner. Goods exports totaled $270 billion; Goods imports totaled $416 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with the EU was $147 billion in 2016.
What's happening with Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership the deal the EU insisted upon doing behind closed doors. Allowing the bureaucrats to sell Europe down the river, without anyone checking up on them.

In the US different States have their Governments, allowing them to make some of their laws. But as you point out they all trade with each other.

Film cassettes standards are world wide and were around and set before the EU existed. You have totally failed to give us any reasons for being ruled by a centralised government dictated to by unelected bureaucrats who can't decide where to base themselves. The seven institutions of the European Union (EU) are seated in four different cities, viz. Brussels, Frankfurt, Luxembourg and Strasbourg, rather than being concentrated in a single capital city. The EU agencies and other bodies are located all across the union, but usually not fixed in the treaties. And you claim it makes life easier.:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 10-16-2018 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22349981)
btw. it looks like you just found the headline of this article and did not read it.

so i will copy the important part for you from YOUR article:



next time you send me a "prove" read ist first !!

So bureaucrats would make it harder? Rolling over means applying the same rules so no worries.

Paul Markham 10-16-2018 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22350137)
what have that to do with the EU ?

nothing !

if the EU would be same a german webmaster would be able to make his money the same way as the dutch webmaster can.

but youth protection is not regulated from the EU it is based on country laws and not on EU laws. so if you hate this law in your country (and I donīt know WHY you should because you are in one of the most liberal) you should blame holland and not the EU.

For now the EU doesn't regulate youth protection. Give them time and they will set up a committee to do it. The EU grows in power slowly so you see how bad it is over the years.

Paul Markham 10-16-2018 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22350159)
Well, i hear the EU talking a lot of destruction of Poland...
In the end, the Brexit will be allright.

Because the EU demands a centralised government which Thommy has failed to point out is needed. It has too punish the countries that step out of line.

Unlike the States where localised rule is treasured.https://study.com/academy/lesson/wha...oles-quiz.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_..._United_States

The American State and Local Government - TheUSAonline.com

And yet it stills functions great and has an enormous trade with the world. Making Thommy's argument irrelevant.

pimpmaster9000 10-16-2018 05:45 AM

as soon as every country leaves the evil evil EU, cash will start falling from the sky...just vote for the miracle pill leaders, they know better...oh, and if they fuck up, you can blame the EU :thumbsup

same narrative as in yugoslavia...IRL out of the 7 new countries, 6 are doing shit...serbia is doing the most shit because it was under sanctions for 20 years etc but macedonia/kosovo/croatia/montenegro/bosnia are doing far worse than they did in yugo...the standard of living is lower, the politicians are richer...only slovenia is doing "better" but IRL it is doing the same as it did in yugo...nothing changed except who you pay taxes to...

moral of the story: :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 10-16-2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22350436)
as soon as every country leaves the evil evil EU, cash will start falling from the sky...just vote for the miracle pill leaders, they know better...oh, and if they fuck up, you can blame the EU :thumbsup

same narrative as in yugoslavia...IRL out of the 7 new countries, 6 are doing shit...serbia is doing the most shit because it was under sanctions for 20 years etc but macedonia/kosovo/croatia/montenegro/bosnia are doing far worse than they did in yugo...the standard of living is lower, the politicians are richer...only slovenia is doing "better" but IRL it is doing the same as it did in yugo...nothing changed except who you pay taxes to...

moral of the story: :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Countries like those of the old Yugoslavia will be better off inside the EU. The EU gives money to these type of countries. We in Czech are doing better. In our small town we have two examples of wasted EU funds. A pond that dries up in the summer as it has no natural water and a small tower on top of of a hill. The only thing to see is the town.:Oh crap

https://scontent-atl3-1.cdninstagram...66005248_n.jpg

pimpmaster9000 10-16-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22350458)
Countries like those of the old Yugoslavia will be better off inside the EU. The EU gives money to these type of countries. We in Czech are doing better. In our small town we have two examples of wasted EU funds. A pond that dries up in the summer as it has no natural water and a small tower on top of of a hill. The only thing to see is the town.:Oh crap

when a small fish enters the pond where big fish are the result is always the same...macedonia/serbia/montenegro/croatia/bosnia = all the same story = big fish eats little fish...

I can go in to detail but the lets just look at croatia and serbia...

serbia is a bombed out shit hole with 20 years sactions, 2 wars and even greater destruction post war by western puppet leaders and banks and their loan sharking to desperate people...it is fair to say that serbia got the biggest shaft...

now lets look at croatia...croats make $10/day more than serbs, no dispute about this, but life is more expensive in croatia...so IRL it is 5$/day...

5$/day is the realistic difference...and this 5$ is ONLY because serbia got the worst cards dealt...

compared to europe, all ex yugo countries are a joke...yugoslavia had a better living standard than any exyu country today...

Paul Markham 10-16-2018 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22350485)
when a small fish enters the pond where big fish are the result is always the same...macedonia/serbia/montenegro/croatia/bosnia = all the same story = big fish eats little fish...

I can go in to detail but the lets just look at croatia and serbia...

serbia is a bombed out shit hole with 20 years sactions, 2 wars and even greater destruction post war by western puppet leaders and banks and their loan sharking to desperate people...it is fair to say that serbia got the biggest shaft...

now lets look at croatia...croats make $10/day more than serbs, no dispute about this, but life is more expensive in croatia...so IRL it is 5$/day...

5$/day is the realistic difference...and this 5$ is ONLY because serbia got the worst cards dealt...

compared to europe, all ex yugo countries are a joke...yugoslavia had a better living standard than any exyu country today...

In the EU the votes of the small fish when banded together can easily out vote the few big fish. Otherwise I would gladly agree with you.

redwhiteandblue 10-16-2018 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22349328)
the first mistake of britain was already not to use the euro.

Sorry....did you actually write that? I mean, was that actually the thought in your head when your fingers touched the keys on your keyboard to make those words?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I'm sorry, I just can't take anything else you say seriously after that.

Tasty1 10-16-2018 10:30 AM


SIK 10-16-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22350485)
now lets look at croatia...croats make $10/day more than serbs, no dispute about this, but life is more expensive in croatia...so IRL it is 5$/day...

That isn't the only measurement of life quality in any country.

Anyway, biggest problem in Croatia is corruption in every (even tiniest) branch, causing insane % of government money to go down the drain, without any progress.

Serbia and Bosnia got it even worse than Croatia.

pimpmaster9000 10-16-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK (Post 22350575)
That isn't the only measurement of life quality in any country.

Anyway, biggest problem in Croatia is corruption in every (even tiniest) branch, causing insane % of government money to go down the drain, without any progress.

Serbia and Bosnia got it even worse than Croatia.


if a comet fell from the sky and completely destroyed the serbian parliament it would be the best thing that ever happened to serbia in its entire history...we would have 2-3 weeks of freedom before the west installs new puppets...

I laugh at the "exit" crew, thinking that a smaller country can ever be independent from the big players...the smaller you are the higher the "fixed expense" is of having a corrupt government...at least when you are a big country the fixed expense is divided among a larger population so the cost is less and the political leverage is greater...

Tasty1 10-16-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK (Post 22350575)
That isn't the only measurement of life quality in any country.

Anyway, biggest problem in Croatia is corruption in every (even tiniest) branch, causing insane % of government money to go down the drain, without any progress.

Serbia and Bosnia got it even worse than Croatia.

Croatia is rapidly growing in popularity for holidays.
I drove the whole coast a few years ago, looked nice.
Saw some people working at parking lots missing some parts of their body.
Nice toll roads payed by Europe and when driving them i had to pay again for them.

SIK 10-16-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22350600)
Croatia is rapidly growing in popularity for holidays.
I drove the whole coast a few years ago, looked nice.
Saw some people working at parking lots missing some parts of their body.
Nice toll roads payed by Europe and when driving them i had to pay again for them.

That (tourism) is insane money cow for Croatia and that is pretty much the only thing keeping us afloat, because all other industry is 99% dead.

Biggest problem is corruption overall and of course nepotism.

There is around 1 300 000 workers in Croatia, out of which 450 000 work for the country, which is an insane expense considering we're in capitalism (even though it is more like communism if you ask me).

So yeah: first summer tourist season that FLOPS = Croatia in the gutter

Personally, I want it to happen coz only then will shit start changing.

Paul Markham 10-16-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22350600)
Croatia is rapidly growing in popularity for holidays.
I drove the whole coast a few years ago, looked nice.
Saw some people working at parking lots missing some parts of their body.
Nice toll roads payed by Europe and when driving them i had to pay again for them.

EU paying for things the poorer countries can't afford, don't need or charge the user for is part of the EU'as ideology. Here they paid for some of the motorways or contributed towards them. And still Czech Government operate tolls for the trucks. It's all done automatically by cameras over the motorways at regular intervals. They make a mint out of it. But it's all legal.

Unlike the endemic corruption. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26014387


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