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dyna mo 10-15-2018 10:05 AM

and BTW, the classy thing for the fucking billionaire, no tax paying. most powerful guy on the planet to do would be to pay a charity $1m anyway. not exclaim "who cares". he's a shitty guy.

dyna mo 10-15-2018 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22349899)
What part of "if it proves you're Native American" do you not understand? 1/500th? That's proof? Really? LOL

I actually could likely qualify for scholarships and shit but never in my life have I called myself Native American.

I'm not the fucking nitwit that made a fucking million dollar bet without specifying terms.

you really think someone somewhere is 100 fucking percent indian. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

sarettah 10-15-2018 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22349871)
The reason we are even having this discussion is because she listed herself as a minority in her profession..

"Harvard Law School in the 1990s touted Warren, then a professor in Cambridge, as being "Native American." They singled her out, Warren later acknowledged, because she had listed herself as a minority in an Association of American Law Schools directory."
https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/polit...tas/index.html

Again she's no more Native American than the pile of morning shit I took.

She has claimed that her Mother told her she had Native American roots. That is the way most people know their background is from Family history.

She indicated she was minority on a survey from the Association of American Law Schools, it had nothing to do with getting or keeping a job. It was a survey passed to all new faculty members (meaning she was already hired before she filled it out),

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That association received faculty lists from law schools and sent personal profile forms to new faculty members. The group first asked about minority status in 1986.

The directories don’t indicate which minority group the person belonged to, so it would not be obvious to schools or other readers that Warren was thinking of her Native American roots.
Harvard used the information, she did not.

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At a time when law schools faced public pressure to show greater ethnic diversity within their faculty, the university’s Crimson newspaper quoted a law school spokesman in 1996 saying Warren was Native American.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/

So, the only thing she is guilty of in this enttire debacle is believing in her family history as it was passed down to her.

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22349882)
My Great grandmother was full blooded Cherokee BTW..

And you know this how? Have you had a DNA test to prove it? Have you had your family tree traced by a qualified genealogist? I doubt it. You probably know that because it is the family history that your parents or uncles and aunts or other relatives have passed down to you and you believe it because you have no reason not to believe it. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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onwebcam 10-15-2018 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22349903)
you really think someone somewhere is 100 fucking percent indian. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Depends on how far back you want to go, Pangaea?

sarettah 10-15-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22349881)
The DNA test revealed that Elizabeth Warren is not 1/512 Native American, she’s 1/1,024. That’s 0.0009765625.

Helix, I would have thought better of you.

The 1/1024 comes from if it is 10 generations back. The expert said from 6 generations to 10 generations so a range. The absolute least it could be is 1/1024.

I know that you side with the Trumpettes but you usually show integrity and do not outright mis-represent.

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Robbie 10-15-2018 10:13 AM

The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.
And in doing so, she would have bumped out an actual Native American looking for that same opportunity.

So Trump is called a piece of shit for calling her out on it...and she actually DID this and is considered a "hero".

Kinda like WikiLeaks showing that the Clinton campaign was breaking laws and was corrupt and fucking Bernie Sanders out of his chance at the nomination....and Trump gets investigated while Hillary is a "hero".

Backwards world we live in.

dyna mo 10-15-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22349906)
Depends on how far back you want to go, Pangaea?

why didn't you ask trump that when he made the bet, kemosabe?

Rochard 10-15-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22349881)
Warren specifically claimed to be Cherokee; the DNA test did not prove this to be true.

It's amazing how people try to argue this.

The DNA test said she was part American Indian. Which completely backs up her claim. The test did not prove she was not part Cherokee.

sarettah 10-15-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22349883)
in spite of the fact that she's spent a career touting her minority status and clearly lying about it and exploiting the lie for political gain.

That is pure bullshit right there but don't let facts get in the way of a good smear job.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/

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RedFred 10-15-2018 10:16 AM

And yet Trump sued Bill Maher over this. Seems he can fling ape shit but can't take it.



dyna mo 10-15-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22349911)
The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.
And in doing so, she would have bumped out an actual Native American looking for that same opportunity.

So Trump is called a piece of shit for calling her out on it...and she actually DID this and is considered a "hero".

Kinda like WikiLeaks showing that the Clinton campaign was breaking laws and was corrupt and fucking Bernie Sanders out of his chance at the nomination....and Trump gets investigated while Hillary is a "hero".

Backwards world we live in.

she was raised being told she was part indian and it was her heritage. there were no DNA tests when she applied to college nor were DNA tests required.

sarettah 10-15-2018 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22349911)
The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.

And again, pure bullshit and mis-representation.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/

And again, don't let the facts get in your way.

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Rochard 10-15-2018 10:20 AM

I am so not taking a DNA test. My family history is "spotty" at best.

In short... My father was married in the early 1960s, had a daughter with his wife, then a week later had a son with another woman. This was "not allowed" in the 1960s. Four or five years later my mother met my father, had me, then died. Us three kids had no idea of any of this; It was completely hidden from us. My sister figured it out when she went to get her driver's license and discovered on her birth certificate her last name was Buss, which was changed a few years later when she was legally adapted by her step father. She had no idea the man she knew as her father wasn't in fact her father.

We've all met, although all three of us have never been together all at the same time. I don't speak to my sister much; She's become very religious after her fourth marriage. My brother and I get together once a year or once every other year, it's no big deal. It's kind of neat really.

But I don't want to do a DNA test only to discover everything we were told or everything we've discovered since is wrong. We also don't want any other brothers or sisters.

directfiesta 10-15-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22349881)
According to the New York Times, the average white person in America has nearly double the amount of American Indian DNA (0.18%) as Elizabeth Warren (0.098%), who claims to be Cherokee.

The DNA test revealed that Elizabeth Warren is not 1/512 Native American, she’s 1/1,024. That’s 0.0009765625.

Most tribes require percentage of Native blood at least 1/16th to claim Native American heritage. Warren specifically claimed to be Cherokee; the DNA test did not prove this to be true.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/s...ity-study.html

Your link does not even menti on Warren ... just more fake news from fake news maker .

This IS her actual DNA summary :

https://mk0elizabethwarh5ore.kinstac...eport_2018.pdf

RedFred 10-15-2018 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22349911)
The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.


Oh bullshit. Inform yourself


Warren herself didn’t trumpet this side of her family story. When applying to college and law school, records show that she either identified as white or declined to apply based on minority status.

The facts behind Elizabeth Warren, her claimed Native American ties and Trump's 'Pocahontas' insult

directfiesta 10-15-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22349912)
why didn't you ask trump that when he made the bet, kemosabe?

He didn't ask Tonto !!!!

onwebcam 10-15-2018 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22349904)

And you know this how? Have you had a DNA test to prove it? Have you had your family tree traced by a qualified genealogist? I doubt it. You probably know that because it is the family history that your parents or uncles and aunts or other relatives have passed down to you and you believe it because you have no reason not to believe it. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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Because she told me herself? She died around 30 years ago.. Lived until I think 103.. Because it's literally part of the history of the town my family founded? My Great grandfather literally traded a cow for her.... Her own story... Family still has 1000+ acres of settlement property.. Everything in town is named after us.. Even the liquor store.

dyna mo 10-15-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22349921)
Your link does not even menti on Warren ... just more fake news from fake news maker .

This IS her actual DNA summary :

https://mk0elizabethwarh5ore.kinstac...eport_2018.pdf


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Conclusion. While the vast majority of the individual’s ancestry is European, the results strongly support
the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual’s pedigree, likely in the range
of 6-10 generations ago.
so she could easily be ~5% indian.

baddog 10-15-2018 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22349920)
In short... My father was married in the early 1960s, had a daughter with his wife, then a week later had a son with another woman. This was "not allowed" in the 1960s.

What do you mean was not allowed in the 1960s?

sarettah 10-15-2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22349925)
Because she told me herself? Because it's literally part of the history of the town my family founded?

But you do not have scientific proof, do you? You accept it because it is what you have been told. It is part of you and you do not need to question it.

That is what personal history and family history is all about.

Warren was told by her family that she is part Cherokee and she had no more reason to doubt it than you do. And again, there is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage no matter what it is.

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Gloria Wysong, a cousin, said that her mother told her that the family's heritage "was Delaware, but the Delaware and Cherokee merged together."

And David Herring, Warren’s brother, said he grew up hearing, "Your grandfather is part Delaware, a little bitty bit, way back, and your grandmother is part Cherokee."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/

onwebcam 10-15-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22349928)
But you do not have scientific proof, do you? You accept it because it is what you have been told. It is part of you and you do not need to question it.

That is what personal history and family history is all about.

Warren was told by her family that she is part Cherokee and she had no more reason to doubt it than you do. And again, there is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage no matter what it is.



https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/

Up until about 15 years ago Pow wows were held on my mom's property. It's literal history.. Not "folk tale"

DraX 10-15-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22349781)
If i take a DNA test and have 1/500th (you could get that if someone sneezed on you) possible African DNA, could I claim minority status?

As a matter of fact yes you can, according to crus law you're then part of a weak minority and it comes with the added bonus of treating others badly. If you want. The majority will protect and defend you no matter what...:2 cents:

RedFred 10-15-2018 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22349925)
Because she told me herself? She died around 30 years ago.. Lived until I think 103.. Because it's literally part of the history of the town my family founded? My Great grandfather literally traded a cow for her.... Her own story


Your grandfather traded a cow for your grandmother? Fuck, no wonder you're so fucked up.


Do you post in the barter section of craigslist Will trade ape shit for a wimin?

onwebcam 10-15-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22349932)
Your grandfather traded a cow for your grandmother? Fuck, no wonder you're so fucked up.

Yep, that's how it was done in those days.. Actually still gets done that way in many cultures don't ya know? Ever heard of dowry?

sarettah 10-15-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22349930)
Up until about 15 years ago Pow wows were held on my mom's property. It's literal history.. Not "folk tale"

It still is not scientific proof. Here they hold Pow Wows at one of the local community colleges. That does not mean that the college is a Native American college or that the land is tribal land.

I do NOT doubt you or your beliefs regarding your ancestry. That you think your personal proof is more important or reliable than someone else's personal proof is what I question.



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Bladewire 10-15-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22349881)
Warren specifically claimed to be Cherokee; the DNA test did not prove this to be true.

You have a serious problem with facts and the truth.

"I will give you a million dollars, to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian,"

She proved it.

Now all you incel trolls are spinning lies like little bitches.

You have no dignity or self respect.

All the Trump supporters want to back out of a lost bet. Proof these people are all pieces shit and can't be trusted. What disgusting fuckups you are.

dyna mo 10-15-2018 10:45 AM

a guy who claims to be worth $10B welching on a $1m bet is like the rest of us welching on a $1 bet.

Robbie 10-15-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22349918)
And again, pure bullshit and mis-representation.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-native-ameri/

And again, don't let the facts get in your way.

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Politifact?
Facts?
Those two things don't go together.
They are nothing more than a biased source of opinion that cherry picks want they want to see.

Warren repeatedly used the line that she was native American her whole life.

You would have to be blind if you can't look at her and plainly see she was LYING the entire time.
And why would she do that?
How would it benefit her to make that shit up?

Think about it...and don't let some reporter do your thinking for you and try to tell you something is a "fact" when it's only his analysis

The only FACT is that she lied about her heritage in order to get ahead.

Bladewire 10-15-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22349943)
Politifact?
Facts?
Those two things don't go together.
They are nothing more than a biased source of opinion that cherry picks want they want to see.

Warren repeatedly used the line that she was native American her whole life.

You would have to be blind if you can't look at her and plainly see she was LYING the entire time.
And why would she do that?
How would it benefit her to make that shit up?

Think about it...and don't let some reporter do your thinking for you and try to tell you something is a "fact" when it's only his analysis

The only FACT is that she lied about her heritage in order to get ahead.

You lost the bet fair and square

Pay up!

Stop trying to weasle out of it

"I will give you a million dollars, to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian"

She proved it.

Pay up loser!

Robbie 10-15-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22349937)
a guy who claims to be worth $10B welching on a $1m bet is like the rest of us welching on a $1 bet.

I'll bet you a dollar you're wrong! Lol!

directfiesta 10-15-2018 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22349933)
Yep, that's how it was done in those days.. Actually still gets done that way in many cultures don't ya know? Ever heard of dowry?

was the cow related ????

cousin, sister-in-law ... ???

sarettah 10-15-2018 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22349943)
The only FACT is that she lied about her heritage in order to get ahead.

Prove it.

You will not be able to. I used politifact because it was available. The only ones saying she used it to get ahead are her opponents.

You state something is a fact but don't back it up with anything. I at least take the time to back up my claims.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/el...s-controversy/
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“I never used it to get ahead,” she said in the Nov. 27 interview with Cooper. “I never used it to get into school. I never used it to get a job.”

We are not aware of anyone having proved anything different.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...r-what/257415/

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The best argument she's got in her defense is that, based on the public evidence so far, she doesn't appear to have used her claim of Native American ancestry to gain access to anything much more significant than a cookbook;

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html

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In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/har...ss-report-says

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Although critics have charged that Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., has advanced her career with a narrative that she is a distant descendant of Cherokee and Delaware tribes, Harvard University never considered her ethnicity when it hired her as a law professor, according to a report Saturday.

The Boston Globe reported interviews and documents showed that the issue was not considered by Harvard Law faculty when it considered her application in the 1990s.

The report also saw no consideration of her race when she applied to work at Rutgers, the University of Houston, the University of Texas or the University of Pennsylvania.
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RedFred 10-15-2018 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22349948)
was the cow related ????

cousin, sister-in-law ... ???

:1orglaugh


http://i.imgur.com/IiiKHkp.jpg

Rochard 10-15-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22349927)
What do you mean was not allowed in the 1960s?

I thought of you when I wrote that actually.

Having a child out of wedlock was taboo back then, not to mention having a child with your wife and then shortly after having a child with your girlfriend. Of course my father and his wife divorced.

My brother... His mother was "sent away" to have the kid "out of sight" and he was later adapted by his grandparents because it was improper for a single woman to have a child.

2MuchMark 10-15-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22349793)
According to the professionals, these tests are not very accurate. https://now.tufts.edu/articles/pulli...ancestry-tests

LOL! Typical.


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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22349840)
The thing is, she never claimed any more than that and she never, from all accounts, tried to use it to her advantage job wise.

Fearless leader mocked her and stated that he would give $1 million to a charity of her choice if she took the DNA test and it proved Native American ancestry.

She took the test and proved it and now he reneges and you are all ok with that.

That shows you have as little integrity as he does.




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Bang-on. :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22349845)
You ignorant alt-right idiots think you know more than the professor of genetics at Stanford who administered the test :1orglaugh

This was released today and explains Elizabeth Warren's heritage. Forward to 3:25 to see the genetic test results you stupid ignorant bitches.




Awesome video, thanks for sharing this.


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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22349857)
Or would you too dismiss it as 'junk science' simply because you don't enjoy the results it digs up on you?

Imagine what a certain GFY'er would say if a DNA test revealed he was 1/10000000th black lol!


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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22349867)
Trump is now denying he ever said he'd pay $1 million if Warren took a DNA test with results showing she's Native American.

What? President Donald Trump, lie to the American people? Impossible! He's such a top-notch stand-up guy...!

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22349911)
The bottom line is that Warren lied about her heritage in order to use affirmative action policys to get into college and apply for jobs afterwards.

Sorry Robbie, whoever told you that was lying or misinformed.


https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_1200w/Bo...penn-state.jpg
(Warren changed her listed ethnicity to Native American in December 1989, nearly three years after she was hired as a white woman by the University of Pennsylvania Law School)

In September 2018, the Boston Globe published the results of an investigation over whether Warren was hired at Harvard because “had decided to self-identify as a Native American woman and Harvard saw a chance to diversify the law faculty.” The Globe concluded that:

"In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

The Globe examined hundreds of documents, many of them never before available, and reached out to all 52 of the law professors who are still living and were eligible to be in [on the decision]. Some are Warren’s allies. Others are not. Thirty-one agreed to talk to the Globe — including the law professor who was, at the time, in charge of recruiting minority faculty. Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment
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Sources:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html

and

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/el...tive-american/

dyna mo 10-15-2018 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22349946)
I'll bet you a dollar you're wrong! Lol!

Ahahaha! Good one.

thommy 10-15-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22349867)
Trump is now denying he ever said he'd pay $1 million if Warren took a DNA test with results showing she's Native American.

Trump denies offering $1 million for Warren DNA test, even though he did

"I didn't say that. You'd better read it again," Trump told reporters at the White House when asked about his $1 million offer.

During a campaign rally on July 5, Trump taunted Warren for her claims of Native American ancestry, a staple of his campaign stump speeches.

"I will give you a million dollars, to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian," Trump said at the time. "I have a feeling she will say 'no.'"

but he also turns another curve.

how funny is the following:

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Russian interference in the 2016 election

Asked after his Putin comments whether he thought Moscow meddled in the 2016 presidential election, Trump said he didn't think it was just Russia.

"They meddled. But I think China meddled, too. And I think other countries ..." Trump said. He added, "And I think, frankly, China is a bigger problem."
what a fucking comedy

nooooo it´s not ONLY russia´s fault that you have to stand me - it was the chinese

Acepimp 10-15-2018 12:24 PM

"The DNA test revealed that Elizabeth Warren is not 1/512 Native American, she’s 1/1,024. That’s 0.0009765625."

The average American has double the amount of Native American DNA.

But Trump should pay the million dollars! :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Matt 26z 10-15-2018 12:45 PM

Warren opened a can of worms with this. She would have been better off with everyone wondering if perhaps a great great grandparent was native.

Now everyone knows she is one one-thousandth native and Trump is going to hit her hard with that all the time.

TampaToker 10-15-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22349826)
He's a crappy deal maker.

Failed at North Korea

Failed at ending Obamacare

Failed at building a wall

Failed at trade war with China

Won at pissing your type off and living in your head rent free :thumbsup


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