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CurrentlySober 10-29-2018 05:17 AM

Fiddy I LIKE POO!

CaptainHowdy 10-29-2018 05:53 AM

Times are hard . . .

bns666 10-29-2018 07:16 AM

nothing new :)

blackmonsters 10-29-2018 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357497)
Dude

You are crying like a little BITCH because you have competition.

As an affiliate

Your job is to close the sale

That is NOBODY'S job but YOURS , as an affiliate

You want 20% commission for life for whales

EARN IT!

If you don't have a dog in this fight then shut the fuck up you stupid dry little cunt

Chaturbate has model affiliates

Chaturbate has whitelable affiliates

Chaturbate has traffic brokers and many other ways of making money on their site.

You don't know the difference between a traffic broker and an affiliate and you are bitching and moaning in this thread and then you cop out at the end and say you have no dog in this fight like a salty little trump.

Fuck off loser :321GFY


But how does anyone know that you know what you are talking about when you won't even post a link to your website and any business you have?

Anyone can post what you say and not back it up; so why should anyone think you have all the answers?

:2 cents:

Mohawk Steve 10-29-2018 08:50 AM

The user behind the bio designs with shady site overlays has been banned from all of their accounts. Please report things like this if you ever come across another one and we will take appropriate action.

SBJ 10-29-2018 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22357694)
The user behind the bio designs with shady site overlays has been banned from all of their accounts. Please report things like this if you ever come across another one and we will take appropriate action.


:thumbsup Thanks a lot for dealing with this fast!

Bladewire 10-29-2018 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22357512)
And you say my post was just insults and sarcasm? There's clearly just 3 options here:

1. You're trolling
2. You have no clue how the affiliate model works
3. You really are just an idiot

4. You're a lazy affiliate
5. You think an affiliates job is to just send traffic, not make a sale
6. You blame sponsors for your failure to make good money
7. You lack the creativity & drive to be truly successful

sarettah 10-29-2018 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22357694)
The user behind the bio designs with shady site overlays has been banned from all of their accounts. Please report things like this if you ever come across another one and we will take appropriate action.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

sarettah 10-29-2018 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22357697)
:thumbsup Thanks a lot for dealing with this fast!

#Metoo

;p

I don't usually paste up emails but I don't think Steve will mind this time.

Quote:

From: Steve
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 10:47 AM
To: sarettah
Subject: Re: A shady shady issue.

Hi,

I've banned this user and all of his other accounts I found, forever. We don't tolerate the kind of crap he pulled.

Thanks,
Steve
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Mohawk Steve 10-29-2018 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22357697)
:thumbsup Thanks a lot for dealing with this fast!

Glad to be of assistance :thumbsup

Mohawk Steve 10-29-2018 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22357710)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup :upsidedow

RazorSharpe 10-29-2018 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357705)
4. You're a lazy affiliate

You don't know the first thing about me or how I work and even if you did, your opinion on the kind of affiliate I am means absolutely nothing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357705)
5. You think an affiliates job is to just send traffic, not make a sale

That is one aspect of it yes, but again, you're stating an opinion think that I simply run a whitelabel, and you'd be incorrect (as usual). Having said that, even if I did only send traffic to a whitelabel, you're saying that it's OK for the sponsor to have things in place that rob me of my commissions? Please tell me what program(s) you run so I can stay well clear. You've demonstrated that you're not to be trusted and think nothing of stealing from people who send you traffic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357705)
6. You blame sponsors for your failure to make good money

I'm not blaming anyone really. I'm stating as a matter of FACT that models who use duplicitous tactics to steal commissions from affiliates are just as shady as you are. This has absolutely nothing to do with the sponsor (again showing your ignorance).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357705)
7. You lack the creativity & drive to be truly successful

I have PLENTY of creativity, but you're perhaps right that I'm not driven enough. That however is something that is easily fixed and even if it isn't, I'm comfortable and it hurts no one. You on the other hand have displayed that you have no clue about the affiliate model and would think nothing of stealing from anyone who was stupid enough to send you any traffic. I'll let you decide which is worse.

Bladewire 10-29-2018 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22357809)
You've demonstrated that you're not to be trusted and think nothing of stealing from people who send you traffic.

Dude you are high

You don't stay in business 20 years like me with that kind of mentality.

Chaturbate allows models to link their affiliate code in their bio right? Chaturbate gives the last affiliate link clicked the credit for the sale right? Those aren't my rules. I believe in no traffic leaks. Chaturbate is in a difficult spot though because models need to link to their social media, etc.

I was trolling a bit yes but you saying I believe in theft is an unjustified lie. You can apologize. I don't hold grudges

SBJ 10-29-2018 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357816)
Dude you are high

You don't stay in business 20 years like me with that kind of mentality.

Chaturbate allows models to link their affiliate code in their bio right? Chaturbate gives the last affiliate link clicked the credit for the sale right? Those aren't my rules. I believe in no traffic leaks. Chaturbate is in a difficult spot though because models need to link to their social media, etc.

I was trolling a bit yes but you saying I believe in theft is an unjustified lie. You can apologize. I don't hold grudges

I've been in the biz 17 years and there is a huge difference from allowing a model to have an affiliate join link and what was going on here. This was every image and link was relinked to the designer's affiliate code. If you support this then yes you support theft.

sarettah 10-29-2018 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357816)
Chaturbate gives the last affiliate link clicked the credit for the sale right?

No. Chaturbate sets a 30 day cookie. The sale is yours for 30 days after they have clicked your link (unless they clear cookies of course) even if they click someone else's after you.

Not sure if it works the same way with white labels or not.

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Bladewire 10-29-2018 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22357819)
I've been in the biz 17 years and there is a huge difference from allowing a model to have an affiliate join link and what was going on here. This was every image and link was relinked to the designer's affiliate code. If you support this then yes you support theft.

I never said I supported that, that's spammy, you're pulling that out of your ass.

You said I support stealing from people

SBJ 10-29-2018 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357822)
I never said I supported that you're pulling that out of your ass.

You said I support stealing from people


I'm not going to read all your BS to show that you thought there was nothing wrong with them having their profiles as they had them.

Unlike others have better things to do today.

No more feeding the troll for me.

sarettah 10-29-2018 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357822)
I never said I supported that, that's spammy, you're pulling that out of your ass.

You said I support stealing from people

When the OP described the situation you came in defending the model getting the sale. In effect you were defending the theft. I don't think you realized exactly what the situation was when you took your stance. I did not understand it at first until I dug down and looked at the code involved.

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RazorSharpe 10-29-2018 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357816)
Dude you are high

You don't stay in business 20 years like me with that kind of mentality.

Chaturbate allows models to link their affiliate code in their bio right? Chaturbate gives the last affiliate link clicked the credit for the sale right? Those aren't my rules. I believe in no traffic leaks. Chaturbate is in a difficult spot though because models need to link to their social media, etc.

I was trolling a bit yes but you saying I believe in theft is an unjustified lie. You can apologize. I don't hold grudges

What's your point about being in business for 20 years? I'm sure Chris Mallick was in business for a long time but that didn't stop him stealing from a load of people.

I have nothing to apologise for. I asked you at the very start if you were trolling and you decided to ignore that question and instead berate me for being a lazy affiliate. I responded to each of your points with honesty and my opinion of the type of person you are. You can call it a lie but your stance in this thread says otherwise.

I guess you'll be apologising to TFCash for the utter nonsense you directed towards him?

Bladewire 10-29-2018 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22357827)
When the OP described the situation you came in defending the model getting the sale. In effect you were defending the theft. I don't think you realized exactly what the situation was when you took your stance. I did not understand it at first until I dug down and looked at the code involved.

.

Those are Chaturbates rules!

A model is allowed to have their affiliate code in their bio. There is no theft when those are the rules the affiliate agrees to.

People sending traffic to Chaturbate know they are competing with model affiliates on the site.

I stated that in this case it was a bio maker and those models probably don't know he's hijacking the links but I was on my phone and couldn't look at the code.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357233)
If you think your job as an affiliate is to just direct traffic to a page and the page makes the sale for you then don't promote models who have affiliate links on their pages.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357264)
99% of the time it's not the models doing it, it's the free bio page makers. They make the bio pages look cool, for free, and put their links in the HTML.

If a model sells themselves well in a bio page, they've earned that sale.

It's a models job to sell themselves, they are the ultimate affiliate for a platform.


RazorSharpe 10-29-2018 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357832)
Those are Chaturbates rules!

A model is allowed to have their affiliate code in their bio. There is no theft when those are the rules the affiliate agrees to.

People sending traffic to Chaturbate know they are competing with model affiliates on the site.

I stated that in this case it was a bio maker and those models probably don't know he's hijacking the links but I was on my phone and couldn't look at the code.

So the fact that Chaturbate has banned the affiliate hasn't done enough to tip you off that you're wrong? SMFH

LitAsFuck 10-29-2018 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22357694)
The user behind the bio designs with shady site overlays has been banned from all of their accounts. Please report things like this if you ever come across another one and we will take appropriate action.

very good news :thumbsup

Bladewire 10-29-2018 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22357900)
So the fact that Chaturbate has banned the affiliate hasn't done enough to tip you off that you're wrong? SMFH

The bio maker was spamming his affiliate link in the bios of multiple models. That's wrong. As I said, 99% of the models probably don't know he's doing that. That's wrong.

Chaturbate didn't ban models with their own affiliate links in their own profiles.

Why are you trying to conflate the two? Oh yeah, because you don't like Chaturbates terms and you want to blame me got it :thumbsup

You are still competing with model affiliates on their site and that's just the way it is. Their platform their rules.

SBJ 10-29-2018 02:00 PM

um, why is his cb account live again? It was 404ed earlier today.

https://chaturbate.com/real_rock_n_rolla/

Someone want to email Steve and ask him? I'm not at a place I can.

Mohawk Steve 10-29-2018 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 22357920)
um, why is his cb account live again? It was 404ed earlier today.

https://chaturbate.com/real_rock_n_rolla/

Someone want to email Steve and ask him? I'm not at a place I can.

That account is banned now, too. He had a few more accounts up his sleeve.

nikki99 10-29-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22357933)
That account is banned now, too. He had a few more accounts up his sleeve.

:thumbsup

RazorSharpe 10-29-2018 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22357915)
The bio maker was spamming his affiliate link in the bios of multiple models. That's wrong. As I said, 99% of the models probably don't know he's doing that. That's wrong.

And that is what this thread is about, but you seemed quite happy to "conflate" the issue at hand with models and sponsor terms and other nonsense.

In any case, it's pretty clear where you stand on issues relating to integrity, so I'll leave you, and your 20 years of creativity and drive, to be truly successful.

RycEric 10-29-2018 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22357933)
That account is banned now, too. He had a few more accounts up his sleeve.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup Also, hope you're good man!

ianmoone332000 10-29-2018 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22357933)
That account is banned now, too. He had a few more accounts up his sleeve.

Top stuff Steve :thumbsup

JuicyBunny 10-29-2018 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22357694)
The user behind the bio designs with shady site overlays has been banned from all of their accounts. Please report things like this if you ever come across another one and we will take appropriate action.

Thanks, Steve. Thats great news for all the honest affiliates here.

MaDalton 10-29-2018 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22357968)
And that is what this thread is about, but you seemed quite happy to "conflate" the issue at hand with models and sponsor terms and other nonsense.

In any case, it's pretty clear where you stand on issues relating to integrity, so I'll leave you, and your 20 years of creativity and drive, to be truly successful.

It's time you get that dog so you don't waste your time arguing on GFY ;)

Diomed 10-29-2018 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 22357968)
And that is what this thread is about, but you seemed quite happy to "conflate" the issue at hand with models and sponsor terms and other nonsense.

In any case, it's pretty clear where you stand on issues relating to integrity, so I'll leave you, and your 20 years of creativity and drive, to be truly successful.

You are trying to apply logic to a guy who doesn't leave his house and spends 5 hours a day on an adult webmaster forum literally having conversations with his other fake nics.

Same guy that wears pig masks to obscure his face and crackhead eyes :2 cents:

OneHungLo 10-29-2018 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFCash (Post 22357491)
I'm doing my job, not blaming anyone. Just pointing out when a program is taking advantage of their affiliates, by letting the models steal traffic, when all they have to do is a little filtering.

You really are off your med's tonight, your a douchebag most of the the time, but you have it dialed up to like a 10 this evening :1orglaugh

In case you've not noticed, I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't run cam programs. Don't send any affiliate traffic to cam's, but if I did I'd be pissed off if the cam operator allow the models to steal the traffic I sent by overlying affiliate clicks of their own back into the signup page.

Bladewire, you should really take up a hobby or something :321GFY

As you've probably noticed, Bladewire is rarely on the right side of anything.

emmasexytime 10-31-2018 05:15 AM

Thank you steve.

And this is why everyone loves chaturbate and uses it :)

Beaver1 10-31-2018 08:31 PM

I posted that two days ago, no ne gave a shit on that:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...kes-sales.html

This chatroom is online since month and just one of many, stealing your exisiting members.


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