I bet you see a whole floor of doctors don't you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Your lack of knowledge in the affiliate world and traffic brokering is not lost in your deflection misses "I have no dog in this fight"

Yet you bitch and moan like a failed lazy "affiliate" through and through over and over again in this thread.

You are not fooling anyone you stupid lazy has been.

And I got caught in his troll trap :helpme:helpme:helpme

I waste more time on gfy going back and forth with him than anyone else :disgust

Lesson learned, should put bladewire on mute :1orglaugh

I'm not offering you insults or anything for that matter. I asked a question which you've failed to answer. If you're trolling, good for you, the troll force is strong in you. However, if you're not, then quite simply, you're ignorant of our the affiliate model or any kind of partnership works.

I don't come here to "offer insults", but when someone like yourself says things that are clearly meant to attract insults, I oblige. It really is that simple.

Be careful RazorSharpe you'll get sucked in too :firehair His only purpose here is to increase pageviews, I think they pay him like 2¢ per post to keep it lively around here. But when he's gone off his med's then he just tends to run people off :BangBang:

And you say my post was just insults and sarcasm? There's clearly just 3 options here:

1. You're trolling
2. You have no clue how the affiliate model works
3. You really are just an idiot

You're right, I really shouldn't get sucked into the vortex of his crazy; I have better things to do. Thanks for making me see that before I invested any more valuable time on this buffoon.

He kind of reminds me of this weird uncle that I had. He was always a dickhead, but when he started hitting the whiskey, man you had to run for the hills. He would start cussing up a storm and begin throwing shit at the walls :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just when I thought you couldn't get any more ignorant.

You are toxic gold son..

My Kinda uncle :2 cents: :thumbsup

Fiddy I LIKE POO!

Times are hard . . .

nothing new :)

But how does anyone know that you know what you are talking about when you won't even post a link to your website and any business you have?

Anyone can post what you say and not back it up; so why should anyone think you have all the answers?

:2 cents:

The user behind the bio designs with shady site overlays has been banned from all of their accounts. Please report things like this if you ever come across another one and we will take appropriate action.

:thumbsup Thanks a lot for dealing with this fast!

4. You're a lazy affiliate
5. You think an affiliates job is to just send traffic, not make a sale
6. You blame sponsors for your failure to make good money
7. You lack the creativity & drive to be truly successful

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

#Metoo

;p

I don't usually paste up emails but I don't think Steve will mind this time.

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Glad to be of assistance :thumbsup

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup :upsidedow

You don't know the first thing about me or how I work and even if you did, your opinion on the kind of affiliate I am means absolutely nothing.

That is one aspect of it yes, but again, you're stating an opinion think that I simply run a whitelabel, and you'd be incorrect (as usual). Having said that, even if I did only send traffic to a whitelabel, you're saying that it's OK for the sponsor to have things in place that rob me of my commissions? Please tell me what program(s) you run so I can stay well clear. You've demonstrated that you're not to be trusted and think nothing of stealing from people who send you traffic.

I'm not blaming anyone really. I'm stating as a matter of FACT that models who use duplicitous tactics to steal commissions from affiliates are just as shady as you are. This has absolutely nothing to do with the sponsor (again showing your ignorance).

I have PLENTY of creativity, but you're perhaps right that I'm not driven enough. That however is something that is easily fixed and even if it isn't, I'm comfortable and it hurts no one. You on the other hand have displayed that you have no clue about the affiliate model and would think nothing of stealing from anyone who was stupid enough to send you any traffic. I'll let you decide which is worse.

Dude you are high

You don't stay in business 20 years like me with that kind of mentality.

Chaturbate allows models to link their affiliate code in their bio right? Chaturbate gives the last affiliate link clicked the credit for the sale right? Those aren't my rules. I believe in no traffic leaks. Chaturbate is in a difficult spot though because models need to link to their social media, etc.

I was trolling a bit yes but you saying I believe in theft is an unjustified lie. You can apologize. I don't hold grudges

I've been in the biz 17 years and there is a huge difference from allowing a model to have an affiliate join link and what was going on here. This was every image and link was relinked to the designer's affiliate code. If you support this then yes you support theft.

No. Chaturbate sets a 30 day cookie. The sale is yours for 30 days after they have clicked your link (unless they clear cookies of course) even if they click someone else's after you.

Not sure if it works the same way with white labels or not.

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I never said I supported that, that's spammy, you're pulling that out of your ass.

You said I support stealing from people

I'm not going to read all your BS to show that you thought there was nothing wrong with them having their profiles as they had them.

Unlike others have better things to do today.

No more feeding the troll for me.

When the OP described the situation you came in defending the model getting the sale. In effect you were defending the theft. I don't think you realized exactly what the situation was when you took your stance. I did not understand it at first until I dug down and looked at the code involved.

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What's your point about being in business for 20 years? I'm sure Chris Mallick was in business for a long time but that didn't stop him stealing from a load of people.

I have nothing to apologise for. I asked you at the very start if you were trolling and you decided to ignore that question and instead berate me for being a lazy affiliate. I responded to each of your points with honesty and my opinion of the type of person you are. You can call it a lie but your stance in this thread says otherwise.

I guess you'll be apologising to TFCash for the utter nonsense you directed towards him?

Those are Chaturbates rules!

A model is allowed to have their affiliate code in their bio. There is no theft when those are the rules the affiliate agrees to.

People sending traffic to Chaturbate know they are competing with model affiliates on the site.

I stated that in this case it was a bio maker and those models probably don't know he's hijacking the links but I was on my phone and couldn't look at the code.

So the fact that Chaturbate has banned the affiliate hasn't done enough to tip you off that you're wrong? SMFH

very good news :thumbsup

The bio maker was spamming his affiliate link in the bios of multiple models. That's wrong. As I said, 99% of the models probably don't know he's doing that. That's wrong.

Chaturbate didn't ban models with their own affiliate links in their own profiles.

Why are you trying to conflate the two? Oh yeah, because you don't like Chaturbates terms and you want to blame me got it :thumbsup

You are still competing with model affiliates on their site and that's just the way it is. Their platform their rules.

um, why is his cb account live again? It was 404ed earlier today.

https://chaturbate.com/real_rock_n_rolla/

Someone want to email Steve and ask him? I'm not at a place I can.

That account is banned now, too. He had a few more accounts up his sleeve.

:thumbsup

And that is what this thread is about, but you seemed quite happy to "conflate" the issue at hand with models and sponsor terms and other nonsense.

In any case, it's pretty clear where you stand on issues relating to integrity, so I'll leave you, and your 20 years of creativity and drive, to be truly successful.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup Also, hope you're good man!

Top stuff Steve :thumbsup

Thanks, Steve. Thats great news for all the honest affiliates here.