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RedFred 11-15-2018 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22367711)
Anyone accepting physical credit cards are required to check both the signature and a photo id. That people ignore the rules, doesn't change the facts or the obvious point being made to anyone who is not mentally ill, that you need a government ID for everyday mundane tasks.... but not to vote.

Is it really that fucking hard for you idiots to be honest?


You tell us. While you're at it tell us what country you live in.


Quote:

Both Visa and MasterCard prohibit merchants from requiring customer ID as a condition for accepting their credit or debit cards. All you need is a signed card, and of course the signatures must match.

American Express says it doesn't ban merchants from requiring customer ID, though it discourages the practice. But it does ban merchants from treating Amex holders differently than any other cardholder. Discover told us that merchants are free to request ID if they want to.

If you're a Visa cardholder and a merchant presses you for an ID, Visa says you should notify your card issuer. In the case of Amex, notify American Express directly. MasterCard customers should report the violation by visiting the company's merchant violation web page.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...hase/index.htm

King Mark 11-15-2018 02:13 PM

But captain orange man says...

Phoenix 11-15-2018 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22367765)
Says the guy who has never heard of Heinz ketchup and had to ask when the mid term elections were a day before they happened. Another guy pretending to be American, or if you are American you are probably the dumbest one ever. And staying at a hotel is a little different than buying something dipshit. I doubt there is an American over the age of 18 alive that doesn't know you dont need an ID to buy shit with a credit card. Fucking retards.

Holy fuck you must be dumber than a bag of hammers.
Asking when the midterms are the day before...only you got that it was in jest.
Heinz was replaced by many in this area after firing and shutting down their plant.
Im Canadian, sorry it is not American.
You are likely screaming at your monitor 20 times a day. Hope your health holds up

kane 11-15-2018 02:19 PM

I have no problem with having to show an ID to vote so long as the states have programs in place to help people get IDs if they need one.

My issue is that almost every one of these voter ID laws also come with some kind of voter suppression attached. They limit the amount of days you can register or shorten early voting, or they shrink the number of voting precincts etc.

If they removed the voter suppression aspect of these laws I would be all for them.

kane 11-15-2018 02:21 PM

One of Trump's major problems is that he is a piss poor communicator and he often comes off like a used car salesman so even when he says something reasonable and of value, he often comes off unhinged or unauthentic. It makes those who may dislike or no agree with him dislike and not agree with him even more.

hjnet 11-15-2018 03:32 PM

So as a European I have to ask, what kind of identification do you need to vote in the US?

Here they have a list with your name on, and once you've shown an official ID with a photo of yours on it (i.e. passport or driver license) you get crossed of the list and you're allowed to vote.
You're also allocated to a certain location to vote, you can't just go anywhere. And only people on the official list are allowed to vote at that location.

How does that work in the US?

Phoenix 11-15-2018 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22367789)
I have no problem with having to show an ID to vote so long as the states have programs in place to help people get IDs if they need one.

My issue is that almost every one of these voter ID laws also come with some kind of voter suppression attached. They limit the amount of days you can register or shorten early voting, or they shrink the number of voting precincts etc.

If they removed the voter suppression aspect of these laws I would be all for them.

Every citizen who is eligible should be automatically able to vote.
Then also show id to do so.

kane 11-15-2018 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22367820)
Every citizen who is eligible should be automatically able to vote.
Then also show id to do so.

I agree 100%.

Bladewire 11-15-2018 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hjnet (Post 22367812)
So as a European I have to ask, what kind of identification do you need to vote in the US?

Here they have a list with your name on, and once you've shown an official ID with a photo of yours on it (i.e. passport or driver license) you get crossed of the list and you're allowed to vote.
You're also allocated to a certain location to vote, you can't just go anywhere. And only people on the official list are allowed to vote at that location. You can also vote by mail and have to sign it and give other info on the paper ballot.

How does that work in the US?

In California we have districts where only people from your area can vote at a polling station.

1) You goto the person at the desk

2) They ask your name & address and they confirm it in their records.

3) They have you sign next to your name on the ledger and write in your address by hand.

4) They give you a voter code to punch into the machine so you can vote

5) You vote at the machine

6) After voting the machine prints out your votes

7) You confirm the paper copy is correct and hit Yes. Your vote is complete.

So for someone to cheat they need to know your address, know that you aren't signed up to vote by mail, know you haven't voted yet & have a signature like yours.

Different states have different rules & procedures for voting it's stupid.

kane 11-15-2018 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hjnet (Post 22367812)
So as a European I have to ask, what kind of identification do you need to vote in the US?

Here they have a list with your name on, and once you've shown an official ID with a photo of yours on it (i.e. passport or driver license) you get crossed of the list and you're allowed to vote.
You're also allocated to a certain location to vote, you can't just go anywhere. And only people on the official list are allowed to vote at that location.

How does that work in the US?

Pretty much the same way. In my state (and a couple others) we vote by mail. They mail you out a ballot a few weeks before the election and you either mail it back or drop it in one of many voter drop boxes located around cities.

For those states without vote by mail, you show up at a polling station (most states have assigned polling stations but will let you vote at another, again it depends on the state which is one of the problems) and you tell them your name. If they have a voter ID law you have to show the a valid, accepted ID which is normally a driver's license, a passport, military ID, etc. There is a list of acceptable voter ID for each state. You are then allowed to vote and are removed from the list.

TheSquealer 11-15-2018 04:03 PM

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Florida officials are now saying that nearly 200,000 voters may not be U.S. citizens. Earlier in the week, state election officials announced they had identified more than 2,600 people who are in Florida legally but ineligible to vote."

https://www.local10.com/news/nearly-...ot-be-citizens


It's time to stop Democrat election and voter fraud.

Bladewire 11-15-2018 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22367827)
"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Florida officials are now saying that nearly 200,000 voters may not be U.S. citizens. Earlier in the week, state election officials announced they had identified more than 2,600 people who are in Florida legally but ineligible to vote."

https://www.local10.com/news/nearly-...ot-be-citizens


It's time to stop Democrat election and voter fraud.

You're a waste of time peice of shit

"The headline on the story said "Nearly 200,000 Florida voters may not be citizens."

Ultimately, however, the results of the Scott administration's push did not come anywhere close to finding that many non-citizens. Instead the state of Florida discovered a total of 207 ineligible voters."

TheSquealer 11-15-2018 04:11 PM

I shouldn't be fucking with the mentally ill but there's something about unhinged jerkoffs like you that just make it amusing. I guess when you're so full of hate and terminally triggered, its just easy

but you can't read this cause i'm on ignore..... right Bladeliar?

GFED 11-15-2018 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22367726)
I don't know what fucking country squeeler/acepimp lives but it sure the hell isnt the US. I'm almost 50 years old and have never once in my life been asked for ID with a credit card.
Matter of fact Visa/Mastercard explicitly prohibit retailers from requiring an ID to accept a properly signed card.

“They can ask for that ID, but you can refuse to show the ID and they still must accept the card,” says Paul Stephens, director of policy and advocacy at the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse, a nonprofit that advocates for consumer privacy rights.

https://www.creditcards.com/credit-c..._card-1282.php


Squeeler/Acepimp - 2 nicks, same poser.

They're supposed to check your ID. They used to always check twenty or so years ago. Casinos still check. But yeah, I haven't had other places check in quite a while. Nevertheless, you're just distracting from the fact that we need ways to crack down on illegal voters.

OneHungLo 11-15-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22367829)
You're a waste of time peice of shit

"The headline on the story said "Nearly 200,000 Florida voters may not be citizens."

Ultimately, however, the results of the Scott administration's push did not come anywhere close to finding that many non-citizens. Instead the state of Florida discovered a total of 207 ineligible voters."

Jesus Christ - 200K votes from a midterm but oh no Hillary couldn't have possibly got 3 million extra! Yeah - fucking - right. You dems sure do love foreigners tampering with our election.

Bladewire 11-15-2018 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFED (Post 22367838)
They're supposed to check your ID. They used to always check twenty or so years ago. Casinos still check. But yeah, I haven't had other places check in quite a while. Nevertheless, you're just distracting from the fact that we need ways to crack down on illegal voters.

I'm for checking voter ID as well

After it happens you know what the GOP will say?

"Fake ID's are being used"

It's never ending excuses with the GOP

BaldBastard 11-15-2018 04:46 PM

Voter Id should be required for this cereal

'Sour Patch Kids' candy to be released as cereal

https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/s...ased-as-cereal

Bladewire 11-15-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22367849)
Voter Id should be required for this cereal

'Sour Patch Kids' candy to be released as cereal

https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/s...ased-as-cereal

https://www.commondreams.org/sites/d...9rvaaewjjf.jpg

TheSquealer 11-15-2018 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22367846)
Jesus Christ - 200K votes from a midterm but oh no Hillary couldn't have possibly got 3 million extra! Yeah - fucking - right. You dems sure do love foreigners tampering with our election.

The telling part is when you start talking about voter id's.... they start losing their shit. When you start talking about stopping the massive flood of illegal Democrat voters coming across the border, they start calling you racist. That's how you know they know they have to cheat to win.

I mean, if I called you a butterfly, you'd be confused. You wouldn't flip your shit and start screaming and yelling and making all sorts of absurd arguments about why it's not true.

directfiesta 11-15-2018 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22367759)
What a fuckin liar you are. You don't even have a credit card...ever stayed at a hotel. Fuckin liar.

Bought something worth more than 20 bucks on your credit card? Lying scum to try and win an argument about illegal actions.

Get fucked

Wow ...... off your meds ....

I spend 35K/year on various credit cards, in stores and online. Never been asked once for an ID.

On the other hand, I do not live in a '' shithole'' , so I have chip and PIN on all my credit cards , except one ( Rona, a construction big box store ) ...

3,2,1: scream

Phoenix 11-15-2018 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22367870)
Wow ...... off your meds ....

I spend 35K/year on various credit cards, in stores and online. Never been asked once for an ID.

On the other hand, I do not live in a '' shithole'' , so I have chip and PIN on all my credit cards , except one ( Rona, a construction big box store ) ...

3,2,1: scream

Ok fiesta...lucky you never been asked for id when buying something



Congrats superhero

directfiesta 11-15-2018 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hjnet (Post 22367812)
So as a European I have to ask, what kind of identification do you need to vote in the US?

Here they have a list with your name on, and once you've shown an official ID with a photo of yours on it (i.e. passport or driver license) you get crossed of the list and you're allowed to vote.
You're also allocated to a certain location to vote, you can't just go anywhere. And only people on the official list are allowed to vote at that location.

How does that work in the US?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Obviously, it doesn't work ..... :1orglaugh

In Canada, at least for Quebec as I only vote once in an election .... :) , it is the same as you .
We are on a list, notified by mail, list is available to consult. Once at the polling station, we present a valid id ( passport, drivers licence, RAMQ ) .... We hane no machine, just the good old way and never have the nightmares that we witness in the USA ....

The Porn Nerd 11-15-2018 05:57 PM

Hanging chads!!!!

Phoenix 11-15-2018 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22367874)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Obviously, it doesn't work ..... :1orglaugh

In Canada, at least for Quebec as I only vote once in an election .... :) , it is the same as you .
We are on a list, notified by mail, list is available to consult. Once at the polling station, we present a valid id ( passport, drivers licence, RAMQ ) .... We hane no machine, just the good old way and never have the nightmares that we witness in the USA ....

Exactly one id one vote.
If you cant afford id then you aren't a functioning part of society and you shouldn't be able to vote

RedFred 11-15-2018 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22367786)
Holy fuck you must be dumber than a bag of hammers.
Asking when the midterms are the day before...only you got that it was in jest.
Heinz was replaced by many in this area after firing and shutting down their plant.
Im Canadian, sorry it is not American.
You are likely screaming at your monitor 20 times a day. Hope your health holds up

You don't know when the midterm elections were, never heard of Heinz Ketchup, you think ID is required to use a credit card and I'm the one dumber than a bag of hammers.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What's next... You going to say you never heard of the Beatles?


https://api.kwikeesystems.com/produc...04664_A1C1.JPG

kane 11-15-2018 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22367885)
Exactly one id one vote.
If you cant afford id then you aren't a functioning part of society and you shouldn't be able to vote

That is horseshit.

My mom is 78 years old and has mobility issues due to severe arthritis. She lives in a retirement home where there are plenty of people who are smart, functioning adults who have worked and paid taxes their entire life. Their only sin is getting sick in their old age and now they are living on social security only and don't have very much money. Getting around, and getting money is difficult for them. Should these people not be allowed to vote?

Phoenix 11-15-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22367899)
That is horseshit.

My mom is 78 years old and has mobility issues due to severe arthritis. She lives in a retirement home where there are plenty of people who are smart, functioning adults who have worked and paid taxes their entire life. Their only sin is getting sick in their old age and now they are living on social security only and don't have very much money. Getting around, and getting money is difficult for them. Should these people not be allowed to vote?

Those people should be allowed to vote and they should be given id. Sounds like your area is failing the elderly. Hopefully you have the means to help your mom.

Phoenix 11-15-2018 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22367893)
You don't know when the midterm elections were, never heard of Heinz Ketchup, you think ID is required to use a credit card and I'm the one dumber than a bag of hammers.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What's next... You going to say you never heard of the Beatles?


https://api.kwikeesystems.com/produc...04664_A1C1.JPG

Ok i get it, being an idiot and acting functionally as a moron is your way of life

kane 11-15-2018 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22367906)
Those people should be allowed to vote and they should be given id. Sounds like your area is failing the elderly. Hopefully you have the means to help your mom.

I recently went through the ordeal of having to get my mom a new picture ID. After tracking down her birth certificate and then getting the ID it ended up being about $100 and some legwork. My mom has me and my brother to help her so we got it handled, but there are a lot of people her age that just don't.

As for my area failing the elderly, it isn't just my area, it is the United States. If you are old in America and you don't have money, things are going to be tough.

Phoenix 11-15-2018 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22367910)
I recently went through the ordeal of having to get my mom a new picture ID. After tracking down her birth certificate and then getting the ID it ended up being about $100 and some legwork. My mom has me and my brother to help her so we got it handled, but there are a lot of people her age that just don't.

As for my area failing the elderly, it isn't just my area, it is the United States. If you are old in America and you don't have money, things are going to be tough.

That needs to be addressed if you are over 65 why are you paying to get simple docs.

Rochard 11-15-2018 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22367587)
I suspect he does

No, he doesn't. He has no idea what it's like to to grocery shopping. He most likely has never been grocery shopping his entire life. He was born a multi millionaire; They have have maids, cooks, drivers, and people who shop for them.

Do you think Hilary Clinton goes shopping?

Rochard 11-15-2018 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22367627)
Funny how you idiots can't stop lying, distorting, twisting facts and just flat out inventing narratives. He didn't say anything that you're saying he did. He said was making the point that you need ID to do almost anything in society. That's all. If you're really fucking retarded and pathological liar and suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, I suppose you can translate that into "you need voter ID to buy cereal"

No wonder you guys get so upset at people calling out fake news. It's all you have.

No.

First, that is not what he said. He said you need ID to buy cereal. That's pretty specific. And it's wrong. You don't need ID to buy cereal.

Second.... No, you are wrong - You don't need your ID to do "almost anything in society". I went all week without showing my ID. I don't need it to buy cereal, buy gas, write a check, cash a check, use my debit card, or use my credit card. In fact, when I go to the bank and spoke to a teller I STILL don't need to use my ID. The only thing I've used my ID for was to get on an airplane, and that was two years ago.

By the way, I don't even need my ID to vote.

american pervert 11-16-2018 01:22 AM

I need ID to buy sudafed

american pervert 11-16-2018 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22367899)
That is horseshit.

My mom is 78 years old and has mobility issues due to severe arthritis. She lives in a retirement home where there are plenty of people who are smart, functioning adults who have worked and paid taxes their entire life. Their only sin is getting sick in their old age and now they are living on social security only and don't have very much money. Getting around, and getting money is difficult for them. Should these people not be allowed to vote?

why dont you be a good son and help them get id cards?

Vendzilla 11-16-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22367614)
You support retards who claim you need an ID too buy cereal? Interesting, what other retards do you support and or involved in?

If you use a credit card at the grocery store, they ask for an ID. How fucking stupid do you have to be not to realize that is what he is talking about?

Vendzilla 11-16-2018 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22367925)
No.

First, that is not what he said. He said you need ID to buy cereal. That's pretty specific. And it's wrong. You don't need ID to buy cereal.

Second.... No, you are wrong - You don't need your ID to do "almost anything in society". I went all week without showing my ID. I don't need it to buy cereal, buy gas, write a check, cash a check, use my debit card, or use my credit card. In fact, when I go to the bank and spoke to a teller I STILL don't need to use my ID. The only thing I've used my ID for was to get on an airplane, and that was two years ago.

By the way, I don't even need my ID to vote.

Well that's because you're so ugly they don't forget you from the first time they met you so they don't need to card you. I buy cigars at the corner store and they have to card me. And I'm older than you. But I don't look it! LOL

King Mark 11-16-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22368075)
And I'm older than you. But I don't look it! LOL

http://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/052...127a-v5-wm.jpg

kane 11-16-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 22367986)
why dont you be a good son and help them get id cards?

I helped my mom and one of her friends. I can't be responsible for every elderly, low income person who needs help. That is the government's job.

kane 11-16-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22368073)
If you use a credit card at the grocery store, they ask for an ID. How fucking stupid do you have to be not to realize that is what he is talking about?

I use a credit or debit card every time I go to the grocery store and I can't remember the last time I was asked for ID.

TheSquealer 11-16-2018 12:35 PM

Lawsuit: 100,000 noncitizens registered to vote in Pennsylvania

More than 100,000 noncitizens are registered to vote in Pennsylvania alone, according to testimony submitted Monday in a lawsuit demanding the state come clean about the extent of its problems.

The Public Interest Legal Foundation, which has identified similar noncitizen voting problems in studies of Virginia and New Jersey, said Pennsylvania officials have admitted noncitizens have been registering and voting in the state “for decades.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tered-vote-pa/


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