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2MuchMark 11-19-2018 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369280)
Vaxxed Vs Unvaxxed study

https://www.oatext.com/Pilot-compara...en.php#Article

"vaccination was associated with a 6.6-fold increased odds of NDD" (neurodevelopmental disorders)

LOL! From this same link: Nevertheless, the study findings should be interpreted with caution. First, additional research is needed to replicate the findings in studies with larger samples and stronger research designs. Second, subject to replication, potentially detrimental factors associated with the vaccination schedule should be identified and addressed and underlying mechanisms better understood.

You are uneducated on the subject, pretending to understand medicine, jumping to ridiculous & wrong conclusions, and spreading your opinion as fact. FUCKING STOP.

2MuchMark 11-19-2018 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369132)
Two science degrees here from top universites

Still waiting for you to show your science degrees from those top universities.

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369282)
Freedom of information release from CDC

Dr. Johnston, pg. 14-15 & 19-20: "The data on its toxicity (shows) it can cause neurologic and renal toxicity, including death.”

Dr. Weil, pg. 24: "There are just a host of neurodevelopmental data that would suggest that we’ve got a serious problem." .... "the potential for aluminum and central nervous system toxicity was established by dialysis data. To think there isn’t some possible problem here is unreal.”

Dr. Verstraeten, pg. 31: "we have found statistically significant relationships between the exposure and outcomes for these different exposures and outcomes."

Dr. Verstraeten, pg. 44: "Now for speech delays, which is the largest single disorder in this category of neurologic delays. The results are a suggestion of a trend with a small dip. The overall test for trend is highly statistically significant above one.”

Dr. Bernier, pg. 113: "So we are asking people who have a great job protecting this information up until now, to continue to do that until the time of the ACIP meeting. So to basically consider this embargoed information."

Dr. Johnson, pg. 198: "This association leads me to favor a recommendation that infants up to two years old not be immunized with Thimerosal containing vaccines if suitable alternative preparations are available.” ... "I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on."

Dr. Weil, pg. 207: "The number of dose related relationships are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant.

Dr. Brent, pg. 229 "we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits"

Dr. Clements, pg 247- 249: "that I am very concerned that this has gotten this far, and that having got this far, how you present in a concerted voice the information to the ACIP in a way they will be able to handle it and not get exposed"

Dr. Bernier, pg. 256: "just consider this embargoed information, if I can use that term, and very highly protected information"

I said show YOUR research and YOUR Proof of Validation, Dumbass! Have any of the doctors above validated YOUR work? No? So shut the fuck up!

Also, now you are posting about kids who are immunocompromised in order to make a case that all vaccines are bad? This right there is an automatic fail for you.

Listen to me. You are going to hurt someone if you keep spreading this stuff. Someone may read it and decide to postpone getting vaccinated or getting treatment for a serious issue. Any delay can result serious illness or even death. If you think the garbage you spew as "fact" is helping anyone, you are wrong. You are hurting people.

If you don't believe me, Talk to your own doctor.

RedFred 11-19-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 22369409)
They only give it to the oldies here, kids can survive flu.
It does them good to see what being really ill should feel like. A benchmark so they dont claim to have the flu everytime they get a cold.

Wrong...

2MuchMark 11-19-2018 09:46 AM

Sorry Wehateporn but in all seriousness I do not even want to engage you in this discussion anymore. I think what you are doing is terrible. Sure it's only my opinion but I am standing by it and you won't change my mind.

RedFred 11-19-2018 11:19 AM

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HairyChick 11-19-2018 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369349)
Thanks for sharing your story :thumbsup:thumbsup

I don’t think you should ask strangers if you’re raising your kids right. Their approval doesn’t matter. Talk to doctors, research online and use common sense.

The decision is ultimately yours. You’ll deal with the consequences and you can’t later say “I asked on a porn webmaster forum and they said ...”.

I speak from experience. Others take it and are fine. Investigate what shot they get and what’s in it. Were the trials long-term and what were the results? Any problems yet?

Do you sign a waiver before the shot that exonerates the drug companies from lawsuits and legal machinations? Everyone signs the forms but they’re immune to the implications

Ask medical professionals but also ask if they’re paid to padminister the shot. It all comes down to dollars and cents

Manfap 11-19-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22369447)
Wrong...

Care to expand on that?

wehateporn 11-19-2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22369416)
LOL! From this same link: Nevertheless, the study findings should be interpreted with caution. First, additional research is needed to replicate the findings in studies with larger samples and stronger research designs. Second, subject to replication, potentially detrimental factors associated with the vaccination schedule should be identified and addressed and underlying mechanisms better understood.

You are uneducated on the subject, pretending to understand medicine, jumping to ridiculous & wrong conclusions, and spreading your opinion as fact. FUCKING STOP.

To provide some context, the reason smaller independent studies are having to be carried out is because the industry is refusing to carry out largescale studies of vaccinated vs unvaccinated, which should raise a big red flag. The industry does not like proper studies, so they refuse them.

Out of all the people you will communicate with in your life, I am likely one who knows the most about vaccines out of all of them, as it's my pet obsession, and I eat up information everyday while most people are looking at porn or watching CNN.

wehateporn 11-19-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22369419)
Still waiting for you to show your science degrees from those top universities.

Are you seriously doubting me? Anyone else here doubting me or just Mark?

wehateporn 11-19-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22369419)

I said show YOUR research and YOUR Proof of Validation, Dumbass! Have any of the doctors above validated YOUR work? No? So shut the fuck up!

That is a freedom of information release from of a discussion between CDC doctors about a vaccine study which showed that significant harm was being caused, they decided to embargo the information from the public.

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22369419)
Also, now you are posting about kids who are immunocompromised in order to make a case that all vaccines are bad? This right there is an automatic fail for you.

Where did I post about immnocompromised kids?

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22369419)
Listen to me. You are going to hurt someone if you keep spreading this stuff. Someone may read it and decide to postpone getting vaccinated or getting treatment for a serious issue. Any delay can result serious illness or even death. If you think the garbage you spew as "fact" is helping anyone, you are wrong. You are hurting people.

Unfortunately harm of vaccines far outweighs any benefit they can bring, this is the most important battle raging on the planet right now, the war of information with Big Pharma.

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22369419)
If you don't believe me, Talk to your own doctor.

He doesn't vaccinate his own kids either, he's seen far too much harm caused by them.

Bladewire 11-19-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369551)
Are you seriously doubting me? Anyone else here doubting me or just Mark?

We all doubt you

You know that

Show proof of your degrees

wehateporn 11-19-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22369467)
Sorry Wehateporn but in all seriousness I do not even want to engage you in this discussion anymore. I think what you are doing is terrible. Sure it's only my opinion but I am standing by it and you won't change my mind.

I do believe you would be better off staying away from this debate as it makes you incredibly emotional, which will make it difficult for you to think clearly. The Church of Big Pharma is your religion, and anyone providing evidence against their teachings, like me, is going to wind you up.

Maybe one day you'll be ready to look into the data and studies I post, until then you would be better not to stress yourself out with all this, as it won't do beneficial for your health.

wehateporn 11-19-2018 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22369557)
We all doubt you

You know that

Show proof of your degrees

Given you think I'm about 17 other people here, if I prove my science degrees you'll think all of those posters have them. :1orglaugh

wehateporn 11-19-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns (Post 22369533)
I don’t think you should ask strangers if you’re raising your kids right. Their approval doesn’t matter. Talk to doctors, research online and use common sense.

The decision is ultimately yours. You’ll deal with the consequences and you can’t later say “I asked on a porn webmaster forum and they said ...”.

I speak from experience. Others take it and are fine. Investigate what shot they get and what’s in it. Were the trials long-term and what were the results? Any problems yet?

Do you sign a waiver before the shot that exonerates the drug companies from lawsuits and legal machinations? Everyone signs the forms but they’re immune to the implications

Ask medical professionals but also ask if they’re paid to padminister the shot. It all comes down to dollars and cents

PamWinterReturns,

It's great to see people like yourself who are capable of critical thinking :thumbsup

wehateporn 11-19-2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22369520)

Believing the Earth is flat is similar to believing that Big Pharma cares about making us all healthy

RedFred 11-19-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 22369548)
Care to expand on that?

1. Children have not had the opportunity to build their immune systems yet and are more prone to the effects of flu. So far this season 172 children have died from the flu in the US. 80% of them were not vaccinated.

2. The idea that children getting the flu is a good thing because it 'lets them know what being sick is really like' is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

wehateporn 11-19-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22369573)
1. Children have not had the opportunity to build their immune systems yet and are more prone to the effects of flu. So far this season 172 children have died from the flu in the US. 80% of them were not vaccinated.

2. The idea that children getting the flu is a good thing because it 'lets them know what being sick is really like' is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

The flu numbers are faked, they include pneumonia deaths, which is the bulk of them, that means many people who were already seriously sick, then get finished off by pneumonia are listed as being flu deaths.

It's all an illusion to sell jabs.

Catching flu reduces the risk of cancer, and anyhow the jabs don't work against flu as they always predict the wrong strain year after year.

Bladewire 11-19-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369576)
The flu numbers are faked

No they are not

You have no "inside info" and you lied here about having multiple college degrees. Get a life

Bladewire 11-19-2018 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369561)
Given you think I'm about 17 other people here, if I prove my science degrees you'll think all of those posters have them.

Prove you have multiple degrees. Very simple to do for someone with low self esteem not lying on the internet.

wehateporn 11-19-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22369578)
No they are not

You have no "inside info" and you lied here about having multiple college degrees. Get a life

All hidden in plain sight on the CDC website, the number of flu deaths is actually tiny, most are pneumonia deaths.

What categories does CDC use to estimate flu-associated deaths?

"CDC uses two categories of underlying cause of death information listed on death certificates: pneumonia and influenza (P&I) causes and respiratory and circulatory (R&C) causes. CDC uses statistical models with records from these two categories to make estimates of influenza-associated mortality. CDC uses underlying R&C deaths (which include P&I deaths) as the primary outcome in its mortality modeling because R&C deaths provide an estimate of deaths that include secondary respiratory or cardiac complications that can follow influenza. R&C causes of death are more sensitive to describe flu-related deaths than underlying P&I deaths and more specific than deaths from all causes."

wehateporn 11-19-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22369579)
Prove you have multiple degrees. Very simple to do for someone with low self esteem not lying on the internet.

Only if more people ask, I'm surprised that Mark is asking as he's seen me here for some years, whereas yourself you tend to get confused between many posters, so even if I show you proof you'll forget and think I was someone else.

I think it's really childish to have to post such info on the Internet, so I'd prefer not to go down that road if I can avoid it. I've posted information from medical experts here, that's more important that my own scientific education.

2MuchMark 11-19-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369324)
I'm sure everyone here trusts me,

You are claiming to have 2 x science degrees from a reputable university. You are giving out medical advice, to people you do not know, and without knowing anything at all about their condition. What kind of idiot would trust someone like that? You offered it in this thread, so put up or shut up.

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369324)
I'm known to be an honest person, I really don't want to have to take a photo of the certificates in my draw, and how I got 98.2% (for an A grade you needed 80%) in advanced level statistics and won an award in the UK National Mathematics Competition at age 18.

Congratulations on getting 98.2% in UK National Mathematics Competition. What exactly about this qualifies you to disperse medical information you know nothing about, to people you do not know as anything more than personal opinion? I'll tell you: NOTHING.

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369324)
I'm a modest guy, so I don't appreciate having to mention any of this

You brought it up. You entered it into the conversation as if it was proof of your expertise, or credentials, or validation of anything you have said in order for me or anyone else reading your stuff to take you seriously. And now you cannot produce it.

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369324)
As you can see with the resources I have posted, there are many medical experts speaking out, the mainstream media don't want people to know that, today I'm just a messenger.

In your very first "proof", you clearly only read the title of the document and based your "advice to others" on that, without reading the contents of the document nor the conclusion.

You are not "just the messenger". You are telling people that this is fact, and telling people to believe your claims of credential that you cannot produce. This makes you nothing more than yet another conspiracy-theory nutjob, except now you are a dangerous one too.

wehateporn 11-19-2018 04:15 PM

I know you are still replying out of pride Mark, but it would be better for you to back off from this topic as you said you would earlier, it is only going to stress you out. If ever you want to look at the other side of the debate just ask and I will provide. I know you have a brother who is open minded, perhaps chat with him about this some time.

EddyTheDog 11-19-2018 04:23 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46267038

From today...

wehateporn 11-19-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 22369646)

Look into the reasons why the UK have decided not to vaccinate children against chicken pox

Manfap 11-20-2018 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22369573)
1. Children have not had the opportunity to build their immune systems yet and are more prone to the effects of flu. So far this season 172 children have died from the flu in the US. 80% of them were not vaccinated.

2. The idea that children getting the flu is a good thing because it 'lets them know what being sick is really like' is the dumbest thing I ever heard.


They dont give kids flushots here, only oldies.
We dont seem to have children dying everywhere.

CaptainHowdy 11-20-2018 06:25 AM

This went well . . .

Smack dat 11-25-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 22370019)
This went well . . .

I still don't know the answer.

onwebcam 11-25-2018 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 22369646)

Oh no, something that parents use to have exposure parties for has an "outbreak"

NewNick 11-26-2018 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22369324)
I'm sure everyone here trusts me, I'm known to be an honest person,


Nope.

I would wager that not one single person here trusts you to tell them the time never mind accept medical advice from.

To recap, you think the moon is hollow and used as a base for the lizzard people.

You believe every crack pot conspiracy theory. The nuttier the better.

So no you are not trusted at all. Deluded absolutely, trusted not so much.

I know how much you enjoy your "internet research", here you go :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

wehateporn 11-26-2018 05:59 AM

You are a known troll here

I don’t believe the moon is hollow or in lizard people

In 1918 they were misusing aspirin, that was the real problem

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091002132346.htm

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22372250)
Nope.

I would wager that not one single person here trusts you to tell them the time never mind accept medical advice from.

To recap, you think the moon is hollow and used as a base for the lizzard people.

You believe every crack pot conspiracy theory. The nuttier the better.

So no you are not trusted at all. Deluded absolutely, trusted not so much.

I know how much you enjoy your "internet research", here you go :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu


NewNick 11-26-2018 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22372260)
You are a known troll here

Really ???

A known troll.

Ok.

:1orglaugh


I note you didnt actually read the link I posted.

I suppose it did not agree with your narrative.

You are correct that overuse of Aspirin caused problems. But that was only in the second wave, and only in the US.

The other 50m people who died did not use aspirin. But you would had known that if you had read the link I posted.

NewNick 11-26-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 22372260)

I don’t believe the moon is hollow or in lizard people



Then why do you post Icke nonsense ?

Just trolllin.....???

wehateporn 11-26-2018 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22372288)
Really ???

A known troll.

Ok.

:1orglaugh


I note you didnt actually read the link I posted.

I suppose it did not agree with your narrative.

You are correct that overuse of Aspirin caused problems. But that was only in the second wave, and only in the US.

The other 50m people who died did not use aspirin. But you would had known that if you had read the link I posted.

Wikipedia is updated by pharma shills

wehateporn 11-26-2018 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22372292)
Then why do you post Icke nonsense ?

Just trolllin.....???

Icke makes some excellent points

Sabby 12-01-2018 09:47 AM

Definitely vaccinate your children for the major diseases. Flu vaccines I think that’s optional and don’t always help. But I did it one year and I didn’t get sick. My 24 year old son had shingles last spring so I do suggest you get vaccinated if u have had chicken pox. I didn’t even get chicken pox until I was 30 and my kids got it.


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