If the NRA gets wrapped up in this and taken down, I'll make cream in my pants.

You don't have to live in Russia to know that the Russian mafia existed in the 80's. Is your logic that nothing ever really happens unless you were actually there to see it? Is that how your narcissistic mind works?

You say that bullshit like you know something about organized crime in Russia or as you infer, its lack of existence during specific time periods. So you're so invested in Donald Trump being innocent, you're willing to tell people they're wrong when they make the highly likely assertion that Russia had organized crime in the 80's. If I told you dolphins are wet, would you say "you're not a fish so how would you know?"

By the way, Russians have been doing crime organizationally for centuries. It's a nation run by crooks. Crime is in their DNA.

So you hate groups that defend civil liberties. Very strange. If you hate freedom you could always relocate to North Korea. Or Cuba- nice weather at least :1orglaugh

:rasta

again, i know its tough for you trying to reason with that big turd between your ears.. so you're making shit up. a few petty criminal ex pats in brighton beach who escaped the soviet union is not "an organized criminal enterprise so huge that...". you guys just keep inventing fake facts.... cause Orange Man Bad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia

Russian organized crime or Russian mafia (Russian: рoссийская мафия, translit. rossiyskaya mafiya,[2] Russian: русская мафия, translit. russkaya mafiya), sometimes referred to as Bratva (Russian: братва: "brotherhood"), is a collective of various organized crime elements originating in the former Soviet Union. The acronym OPG is Organized Criminal (Prestupnaya in Russian) Group, used to refer to any of the Russian mafia groups, sometimes modified with a specific name, e.g. Orekhovskaya OPG. Sometimes the acronym is translated and OCG is used.

Organized crime in Russia began in the imperial period of the Tsars, but it was not until the Soviet era that vory v zakone ("thieves-in-law") emerged as leaders of prison groups in forced labor camps, and their honor code became more defined. With the end of World War II, the death of Joseph Stalin, and the fall of the Soviet Union, more gangs emerged in a flourishing black market, exploiting the unstable governments of the former Republics, and at its highest point, even controlling as much as two-thirds of the Russian economy.[citation needed] Louis Freeh, former director of the FBI, said that the Russian mafia posed the greatest threat to U.S. national security in the mid-1990s.[3]

Organized crime by any name is still organized crime. But you can split hairs if you want.

again, you are continually attempting to conflate irrelevant timelines and irrelevant facts.

As i've said many times now, I was only responding to the language of your quote. ....
1984
Soviet Union
Russian Mafia
Laundering BILLIONS of USD in foreign countries

and as the article quote said and as i have said already several times... the only "organized crime" in 1984 in the Soviet Union were small time nobodies smuggling jeans and counterfeiting bibles and low level shit, corrupt Communist Party members who were executed when discovered and loose bands of "thieves in law", who by their own rules are required to not have assets, not save money and to spend the bulk of their lives in prison... they were not well structured, global criminal empires laundering BILLIONS of Dollars in foreign countries. They were simply convicts who could not operate within the Soviet System, get good jobs etc and therefore vowed to embrace prison and operating outside the system.

But again, don't let actual relevant facts get in the way of a good Orange Man Bad rant.

Well, the orange man definitely ain't good. Can't name a single good thing he's done yet.

This just comical.... A young good looking woman from Russia who loves firearms and loves dating older men..... Hook, line, and sinker. They fell for it.

You can keep saying it...

I don't think you are reading me. I don't care. You are splitting hairs that are to short to cut.
Get over it !

As a Public Service to Trump Supporters, I would like to remind them:

-Be sure to take off your MAGA hat BEFORE setting it on fire.
-Several cases of severe head burns have already been reported in Red States.

↑↑↑ Retard TRIGGERED!

:thumbsup

My entire news feed this morning is full of "Trump will be indicted" and "Trump will be impeached".... But hey, it's a nothing burger. Right?

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The era of the tsunami combover is going to provide many lulz forever.

I am just amazed.
When Hillary was accused, I knew 2 things.
That it was likely politically motivated as most things are when they know your going to run.
And there would be a investigation.

Not trusting the 1st that it was just political motivation, I'm glad there is/was a investigation. And you always hope these are not disruptive to any biz as usual as far as the government running. But leaks always have that effect when it is someone in a sitting office.

Now, I would dare anyone to show me a investigation by any special council that has been shown after the fact to be in error or corupt. Because the folks that control government change hands frequently, there is plenty of opportunity for wrongs to be made right again.

But I have not seen it in my lifetime anyway.
Now I have seen investigations fall short of finding other crimes and I would site D.Cheney on that, but still ? Where is the after fact smoking gun on 'ANY' investigation that is corrupt. Knowing there is plenty of time for it to be looked into after any change of power.

So now here we are again, a investigation into Russian meddling into our elections made out to be a investigation of trump. And all I can say is that trump made himself to be a target only by his actions and words.

And the only way this has been disruptive to the Office of the President is because Trump is heading a offensive against the special prosecutor. Otherwise, it is a investigation that has yielded results of wrongdoing that should not bother the POTUS unless he knows he is implicated in what they will find.

So, regardless of how bad POTUS is implicated, we now know even more about the flow of foreign money other indirect influence to politicians and I can only hope this does not stop because I want them all. No matter the party.

So until someone can "show me" where these investigations have been corrupted in the past, you can keep reading the spin handed you to stop it, but I would think you might want to know yourself just how far this crap goes.
Unless you have a vested interest in it going away !

So either way, your not going to make a successful argument to make it go away without some kind of proof.

I will remind you that anyone's conflict of interest does not 'change' the fact a crime may have been committed. As long as nobody is fabricating evidence.
You can't stop a investigation on allegations !

Within a month, we might have a clue to how far this has really gone as to outside money going to politicians of all flavors. Those of you who voted for 'drain the swamp' should be overjoyed, but not so.

This type of corruption diminishes democracy as a whole. I hope there are enough out there that actually care about that.

We have enough corruption from inside sources to have the need to worry about it from outside sources as well.

funny stuff. you're such a dipshit that you quote a CNN producer pumping out "Trump / Russia Collusion" bs stories everyday for ratings who admitted it with that very phrase that it was all bullshit.

I'm reserving judgement until Mueller's investigation is done.

Trump routinely breaks the law, his hundreds of lost lawsuits clearly show that pattern.

Republicans set the new standard for impeachment with Bill Clinton. Lying under oath about anything. Early indicators show Trump lied under oath whike answering Mueller's written questions. Fair is fair if that's the case.

I'm not excited about Impeachment it's a long drawn out dramatic process, the equivalent of a political knife fight.

I'd prefer the law take down all Trump children & cronies who broke the law and use them as examples giving them tough prison sentences, over Trump being Impeached. But again, I'm waiting for Mueller's investigation to be complete before making a final decision, impeachment does not excite me.

The beauty of Muelers investigation is that so many targets openly admitted to, or bragged, about working with Russians and warning about emails to be released, and Trump asking publicly for Russia to hack an American citizens emails to help him win an election.

Trump openly asked a hostile power, on national television, to use espionage, hacking & theft, on American citizens, to help him win an election.

Trump Jr. released his emails that show his meeting was about dirt on a political oponent and help from the Russian government.

The evidence is public and the evidence is cut and dry. It will be interesting to see how this all unravels in the end.

It's kinda what I meant by saying he implicates himself, and many times in his own words.
I actually think most of this would have just blown over with just a few calls for a investigation, but after that incident with FBI director, he did himself in.
But I was always suspicious of NO TAX RETURNS, but I thought I knew the full answer to that but I think that is much bigger than I imagined.

To hell with trump now, I smell blood for the rest of the criminals on capital hill.
If not for trump, I think it would be getting a lot more attention.
Perhaps it needs to wait till new offices have been seated.

Well, i don't think anyone expects you to understand something as obvious as facebook showing you posts relevant to your own obsessive compulsive interests and behavior. Guess what? When you go to google.com and type "apple" and hit "search", you get information about apples. I'll stop now before this new and shocking information makes your head explode.

Interesting timeline for Bunita
https://www.businessinsider.com/time...nra-gop-2018-9

Did I say, NOBODY WANTS TO WORK FOR TRUMP ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/09/u...-of-staff.html

I guess the better reason is the VP will soon be POTUS anyway so he may end up in the job without working for trump !

Muh Russia!....
https://i.redd.it/c0i417ibrb321.jpg

RRuusians did it :1orglaugh

Them damn communists turned Merica' red!
https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/.../v0/800x-1.jpg

:1orglaugh

Is that the way you view them? That makes total sense.

Someone who hates a lobbying group that promotes easier ownership of the most powerful firearms available is someone who also hates freedom. There are different levels of freedom for a healthy, functioning society. Driving a car and owning a gun shouldn't be on the same level.

Here comes the dumb argument that cars should be banned also because people die in auto accidents.

Just wait until they find the Smocking Gun!

Actually it easier to own a gun than a car.. A car requires a drivers license in which you have to pass a written and skill a test as well as be of a certian age. You then have to register that car and have insurance on it to protect others in case you harm them while driving that car. If you dont obey the laws while using that car you can get ticketed or have your right to use the car revoked..

Meanwhile.. pretty much anyone including a criminal or a 10 year old kid can own a gun...

Weird how you deny Russia so much even though that's where you're from.


https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/...-2-800x430.jpg

After you get intertwined in the daily aspects of all this crap, you kinda loose sight of the overall picture.

I went looking to sum up what we know now as a whole...
Of all places here is a pretty good summery at wired.
https://www.wired.com/story/robert-m...red-questions/

But actions always speak louder than words.
While I hate to revisit all that can be said about the 'pee report'
If you revisit that for a new read and pair that with actions of the president in his 2 years of dealings as far as favors traded, it don't look good.

I think everyone should read this over again. It's not as far fetched as it once appeared.
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...legations.html

And Maria Butina is pleading guilty of conspiring against the U.S. since 2015 and acting as an agent of a foreign government.

RT - foreign agent in the USA, it is more problem with visa and legal activities in the USA, she just doesn't know about it. Russian spy work in the USA but they not such stupid like this girl they know laws. But liberals have another "winning" and "impeachment soon coming". :1orglaugh

Oh shit.

Those red commie bastards are to blame for protests in France.... not retarded taxes and failed globalist policies and a President that looks like he sells his ass to older truck drivers.

I wonder if they'll start a multi-year, $30,000,000.00 investigation without a crime or an actual accusation??

https://i.redd.it/uwt3nnwang321.jpg

Job openings back over 7 million and near a record high

Total available jobs stood at 7.08 million for October, the second-highest level surpassed only by the 7.3 million in August, the Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey showed.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/10/job-...cord-high.html


.....Orange Man Bad

Alt-right hate fake nic troll is on day 12 of his epic meltdown since Trumps fall from grace