Seen that a few hours ago...
This I find most interesting. If she turns evidence, we might have a clue as to how much money for favor is and has been going on AND how exactly that art is preformed.
This would give us a chance to change the rules to prevent it in the future.

I'm fairly sure this is not a isolated indecent. It seems they had a roadmap to work from being that the same method has been used in the past, but with different players.

But, there is also a chance that they don't need her testimony, just need to find/follow her paper trail. And that leads to the NRA +?

I have argued since 'citizens united' case that this exact thing is possible and no way to detect it. Foreign entities pushing money through non-profit entities in the states. No way to detect any of it.
This surely is not the only time it has happened.

It's not. You know the Russian government has gone all out to infiltrate American politics at all levels.

If I was in charge of the DNC, I would set up a special task force to look for such people. The RNC should be doing the same too. It's only a matter of time before this happens again.

If you were intellectually honest at all, you'd start by asking the DNC why they didn't turn their supposed "hacked server" over to the FBI when they were supposed to. Then you might bring up the fact that they cheated in the Primaries.

Well, the way I see it is just this...
1st the only place we might see action is from Mueller and The House.
Mueller can make much more swift investigation than could ever be expected in the House just because of rules and methods. Mueller does not need to vote on actions or direction, just follow a lead into branches in a chain of evidence.

One might expect this could tie everything up the government might do for years.
But, if you think about it, they are unlikely going to be able to get much of anything done as it is being that government is divided the way it is.

So, they have 2 years to expose whatever they can expose and hope to be able to deal with it in true form after the next elections. I am willing to bet that 80% of those senate seats are going to flip on both sides, but most of them are held by GOP.

I see the House as a good place to work from, outside of the time it takes. Just because it has over 20% new faces. Rarely seen, and most of them not experienced politicians. Meaning, not been around long enough to be corrupted in the worst ways. The dem's are probably wise in having some experienced leadership in place to guide that, at least for the next 2 years anyway.

I think once these begin to come to light in the public's eye, as far as full exposure, there will be plenty of political pressure from grass roots folks.

Let's hope the propaganda machine has been exposed first since it seems to be a perfect opportunity to create more confusion. The recent RNC hacks may be a precursor to that.
Funny thing about hacks, nobody notices when they happen most of the time.

When Sanders campaign folks were saying they were able to read Clinton camp's stuff in the DNC's system, and was very public about that coming forward, I knew that a hack had been done clearing the ownership rights of the files in the OS. But at the time, I thought it was the Clinton camp doing it. But I knew it had been hacked. We found out weeks later who really did it, or the government did. They didn't really come completely clean on that till after the election.

Anyway, I don't think we will see any more dumping of hacked data, but still a adversary knows how to apply pressure where and when it hurts the most.

Going to be a tricky 2 years going forward.

https://en.diorama.ru/_img/content/workshop/6/5.jpg

teach us :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

"It’s hard to impeach somebody who hasn’t done anything wrong and who’s created the greatest economy in the history of our country,” Trump told the news service in an Oval Office interview.

“I’m not concerned, no," he added. "I think that the people would revolt if that happened."

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...e-people-would

I suspected he might promote violence and burn the town on his way out...
Probably just a hint of things to come.

Here is is :
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016...y=90&auto=webp

... and you call yourself a webmaster .... no wonder you are a total failure ....

The FBI requested the DNC server on multiple occasions when the "hack" was reported to have happened and the DNC refused all FBI requests to hand it over to be looked at. The fact is that they NEVER gave it to the FBI.

But why let reality get in the way of yet another in a 15 year history hysterical Leftist Canadian America Hating outbursts.

They are not going to 'TAKE" the server physically.
They will simply make a copy of the hard drive for additional research.
Taking it physically would have shut them down. No need for that.

Multiple times a year, I will just copy and run with a new hard drive and keep the old as a back-up, along with some backup files preformed twice daily externally.

I can use that copied drive and go back and look at any file including email without it running live. So, I would be unaware why you need the physical machine for any reason.

The only reason anyone makes a fuss is because they can. Nobody seems to know better and makes it believable. But I can make a duplicate of the OS and files in 20 minutes of a machine that hosts over 25 domains and has over 1000 email accounts.

Yeah... right. That's exactly how it works when law enforcement is investigating a serious crime that you allege happened. You just make all kinds of public allegations against others. Then, when law enforcement comes to investigate, you dictate what evidence you will and won't turn over, when you'll do it, how you'll do it and in what form etc.

"After REFUSING to cooperate, I EVENTUALLY made a copy of the knife used in that murder and gave it to police"...

Sure.... sounds legit.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Why are you lying?

Does your mental illness stop you from Googling before you lie?

Crowdstrike had possession of the servers after the hack. The DNC referred the FBI to Crowdstrike.

Did John Podesta deny CIA and FBI access to DNC server, as Donald Trump claims? - FALSE | Politifact

"The DNC coordinated with the FBI and federal intelligence agencies and provided everything they requested, including copies of DNC servers," Watson said. She added that the copy contains the same information as the physical server.

The FBI joined CrowdStrike’s efforts to boot Russia from the server, but then-Homeland Security Department secretary Jeh Johnson complained the DNC rebuffed their offer to help. This was because Russia was already out of their system by then."

As your article states, they never turned the servers over to the FBI. The FBI made many requests for them and they refused.

Why are you lying? I'm supposed to be on "ignore" you batshit crazy idiot.

You're a mentally ill liar with poor reading comprehension.

"The DNC coordinated with the FBI and federal intelligence agencies and provided everything they requested, including copies of DNC servers," Watson said. She added that the copy contains the same information as the physical server."

You really are a stupid piece of shit.

I know it's Trump that makes you mad, not me. So i forgive you as Trump Derangement Syndrome has really gotten ahold of you and taken over your life. Also, I blame the US education system for failing you in basic reading and comprehension. However, I do applaud the fact that you've found gainful employment by posting non stop propaganda on a message board, day in and day out.

Refusing to FBI requests and then eventually decided to turn over forensic data compiled by those who they employ is not the same as turning over the servers when the FBI asked for them.

Next we're going to hear that Hillary destroying servers and smashing laptops and phones with hammers which were subpoenaed was her way of cooperating fully with the FBI as well.

Lower level law enforcement does not have the experts required to do the job.
They will take the device, because they can and farm it to the FBI or other qualified consultant for forensics.
They are not qualified to copy the hard drive and have that evidence be secured in a way it would be admissible in court. If they did it, everything with it would be thrown out of court. Locals lack the credentials.

In order to seize material, there has to be evidence of a crime and those devices have potential to be evidence in that commission.

What does any of this have to do with Russia > NRA > GOP
Go find your thread where your conversation matches.

The DNC refused several times to turn over the servers to the FBI when the FBI DIRECTLY asked for them. End of story. There is no "lower level law enforcement" or chain of custody issues in this discussion.

Meanwhile, in real news, Cohen just got sentenced to 3 years.

He's a severely mentally ill alt-right hate troll specimen that tries to derail EVERY thread to Clinton or Obama.

He can't focus on the current day Trump shit show because he can't absorb current day reality that is filled daily with new info on Trump's illegal activity and crimes against America.

You said it's not how it works for you and I just stated why.
Well, not so. They do not have the need to ask. just take.

Go find a thread that pertains to it. It's not here or Start your own thread.

About 15 years ago, I was asked to do forensics on several local cases of child porn.
While I was qualified to do such a thing, I had to educate the local law enforcement that they were going to face in court from doing so.
They were not aware. I read more late court cases than they do as it turns out.
They did use one other local to do the job on one case and lost the whole thing on appeal.

I'm just underlining the lack of knowledge as the law is applied to tech.
I am not all that great at it now, but still better than the average joe.
It's easy to bamboozle anyone on the facts. Especially when you have never had to deal with it yourself. There is a lot to know.

But in the larger sense, federal authorities would always make some work around to anything that would/could be 'political' in nature around election time.
If not, it would be so easy to shut down your opposition on a accusation.
No federal authorities want that accusation looming over them.

We are going to see some of this coming perhaps to the NRA.
I'm sure we are going to hear 'political motivation' words a bit.
I'm sure they are cleaning house as we speak of it.
Problem is, they may have the other side of those emails.
And the NSA would be involved now because of the Russian connections. So it's not just the FBI anymore.

edit
I should add that the NSA probably has a string of info in the past, but no way to connect it without the FBI. I'm sure that has changed since Bunita. So, all of this held data becomes relevant to the investigation.
Don't think this will really come to light until Jan/Feb 2019.