You think? This man just called the ex CEO of EXXON (who he had previously hired and hailed as a business genius) dumb as a rock. Why? Simply because he spoke his mind.

Democrats were "given" the house back before Trump dumps what they did in 2016 on the American people.. If you look back at all of the "flipped" elections and no one in Gov really screaming foul.. Look back at all of the Dem House seats that went unchallenged by a Rep.. They were given the House to save face... To keep the 2 party system alive...

Notice that now, after the elections, is when it's all ramping up.. Clinton foundation is back in the news.. Mueller is closing down his "investigation." They've been Potomac two-stepping all along.. Giving each side just enough to keep the two sides attacking each other rather than attacking those in Washington... Mueller would throw out some crumbs, then news from the other side immediately followed.. They cut a deal long ago I think... Trump gets to expose the Dems.. But first they were "allowed" to "steal" back the house.. Some got too greedy > Brenda "election sniper" Snipes.. Notice that they've buried that with the 100 or so vote ordeal in NC.. Don't look over here, look over there... Don't let them know we do this in mass.. Trump has been playing along, all along.... Allowing Washington to do their thing... Because he knows in the end that he's safe and he will be proven right...

How can you tell, right now, that Trump has given Washington back to Washington? Look no further than his AG appointment.. Certified Swamp Monster...

I see Tillerson's comments like this: He basically is saying that all he ever did was tell Trump that shit couldn't get done.
I hate working with people like that.
And now?
Magically Mike Pompeo is able to GET shit done instead of doing nothing as Tillerson did.

Think about it for a minute... I am sure you've all had the displeasure of working with someone like Tillerson who does nothing but make excuses. And if you are lucky you have also had the pleasure of working with a "can do" person like Pompeo.

Uh no. His comment was that Trump is ‘Undisciplined, doesn’t like to read’ and tries to do illegal things.

You interpret that to mean all he did was tell Trump he couldn't get shit done?

:1orglaugh

He didn't tell him "things can't get done," he told him most of what he wanted to do was AGAINST THE LAW. You see the difference?

Not to mention a bunch of other stuff about his lack of work ethic.

It's amazing how you're able to spin this unprecedented behavior to try and make it sound perfectly fine.

I don't understand if these people are dumb (as rocks), delusional or just plain trolling.

I don't appreciate his opinion. He's another dumb motherfucker who can only wonder "why is the media reporting all the fucked up shit my golden boy tries to get away with?" As Rochard said, the reason only bad things are reported is that it's all bad shit happening in this administration. It's a giant fucking trainwreck.

Fuck him and all the other Trump supporters. They're a good indication we need IQ tests for voting rights.

Today Trump administrations' EPA is rolling back clean water protections. Is that the media's fault?

Why are you reporting only the bad news?! I'm sure Trump worked a miracle today that the big bad media isn't reporting on. Like maybe these tweets?

"Watched Da Nang Dick Blumenthal on television spewing facts almost as accurate as his bravery in Vietnam (which he never saw). As the bullets whizzed by Da Nang Dicks head, as he was saving soldiers...."

"....left and right, he then woke up from his dream screaming that HE LIED. Next time I go to Vietnam I will ask “the Dick” to travel with me!"

Trump tweets

We are blessed to have a morbidly obese geriatric hate troll as POTUS

LOL. It couldn't be that Trump has no idea what he is doing, no goals, and no plans.

50 liberal heads imploding soon

https://pics.me.me/thumb_trump-is-ou...s-24269924.png

I'm not trying to "spin" anything. And you trying to make this about me is just typical stuff on GFY.

I'm TELLING you...Tillerson says that now. But somehow, Mike Pompeo is doing everything that Trump has asked.

Now how can that be if it's "AGAINST THE LAW"?

Answer...because it never was. Tillerson doesn't specify anything. He just said that in general.

And as I pointed out...Pompeo IS getting it done.

Typical sour grapes from a disgruntled employee who couldn't get this particular job done.

It's really just that simple. Tillerson is an incredibly talented and smart person. But it turned out that diplomacy was not his forte.
If you remember...CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times, Washingon Post and all of those other anti-Trump media outlets were attacking Tillerson the entire time he was Secretary Of State and commenting on how ineffective he was.

But now that he says something that casts Trump in a bad light? They love the guy.

I'm not falling for their bullshit. And neither should you.

Tillerson was bad at the job. It's just that simple.
Somehow it was "AGAINST THE LAW" to do what Trump wanted done in diplomacy when Tillerson was there...but now it's perfectly legal and damn effective with Pompeo?

I believe Tillerson just didn't understand Trump's vision and therefore was reluctant to do much. Pompeo on the other hand seems to fit the job of Secretary Of State.

I think Trump is one of those guys who certain people will get along with great and other will be like oil and water. I have a feeling Tillerson was one of those oil and water guys. Like you say, the two didn't share a vision and it sounded like they butted heads. I also get the feeling Tillerson wasn't really excited by the job and he may have taken it because he felt he had to or he would look bad. Regardless of the reasons, it really does feel like Tillerson and Trump likely never really got along and now are at that stage where they are both saying how they really felt about the other.

All that said, you have to admit having the POTUS and the former Sec. State calling each other names on Twitter is terrible form and makes us look bad. Every president has multiple cabinet turnovers. The difference is the other presidents didn't then call their former staffers dumb as a rock in front of the world.

What is Pompeo doing? What exactly is Pompeo doing? Anything?

The Trump administration is going all out for Saudi Arabia, who just brutally murdered an American journalist, sliced his body up into little pieces, dropping him in acid, and then pouring him down the drain.

So glad Pompeo is handling the Russian Ukraine thing. That seems to be working out well for everyone.

Then you have Pompeo handling North Korea. LOL. That's going well.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...h-counterparts

Then you have this non sense.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.d1ed9b805d0a

This is how it works.... Shortly after someone leaves Trump trashes them saying they were horrible, while his base places all of their hope in the new guy. Eventually the new guy becomes the old guy and gets forced out, Trump trashes him, and... rinse and repeat.

Robbie doesn't seem to understand he drank the kool aid and he believes everything. In his world, Trump is doing great. Pompeo isn't doing great; He is doing horrible. He has accomplished nothing. Nothing at all.

Rex Tillerson took the Secretary of State job to fascilitate removing Russian sanctions so Exxon Mobil could complete their $3.2 billion deal with Russia in the Arctic.

In Febraury 2018 Exxon Mobil cancelled the deal because Tillerson couldn't get the sanctions removed. In March 2018 Tillerson was fired as Secretary of State.

Exxon Mobil Scraps a Russian Deal, Stymied by Sanctions

Putin isn't getting a lot of what he wanted from Trump as POTUS. I'm guessing Putin is going to start acting out soon.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What exactly have Trump and Pompeo accomplished ?

Robbie just shared these memes on his FB

You obviously don't feel that Trump has done anything. That's cool.
So there's no need for me to answer that for you.

But even Bob Woodward had to admit in Sept. of this year that Trump is doing a LOT in foreign policy:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ca 1c5c61c2f2

That is from the Trump-hating Washington Post. You can choose to educate yourself on it or not. I would say...go ahead and open your eyes. You can find out that Trump is kicking ass and STILL hate him at the same time. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

As usual Robbie can't backup what he says.

Don't say things you are incapable of backing up that's trashy and intellectually dishonest.

I'm not really sure why all the Anti-Trump people here are wanting to take this thread down into the weeds.
The original post is a question of is Trump "imploding".

He's not. Cohen did. Tillerson did. Trump is busy relentlessly doing the things he promised in the campaign.

Politically you can hate what he is doing. I like what he's doing. I like having a strong economy. I like that he is trying to stop China from stealing intellectual property. I like that he is stopping other countries from fucking us on trade. I like what he's done for the veterans. I like what he's doing for our Energy sector.

If you don't...fine. :)
But to believe the nonsense that CNN and other anti-Trump media outlets are theorizing about is not reality.
Take issues and argue what you would rather see done. Argue what Hillary would have done. Argue what the Democrat nominee in 2020 should campaign on.

Those are real discussions. All of the talk of what people in power are "thinking" or "feeling" is purely speculative and a waste of time.

Don't say things you can't backup then blame other people for your failings that is deflecting and deflecting is intellectually dishonest :2 cents:

Hopefully you'll excuse me wanting to keep a human element here and keep the thread from devolving.

Robbie is an intelligent person who arrives at his opinions honestly. I may disagree with some things he says, but I respect him.

Many of you are intelligent people, and though you have strong opinions, I'm trying to get to real information. I appreciate everyone who tried to answer.

Very similar to my thread re: House seats, you can see a bit of crowd-sourced wisdom here. The edges are clear, and the center becomes clear.

Thanks everyone.

Honest intelligent people back up their claims with links & don't blather on for paragraphs throwing insults.

and that's the thing about all the shit he does. No matter how backwards or bad something this administration does is, there's someone out there who is getting their dick hard over it.

Travel ban. Mmmmmm. That's good.

Trannies can't serve in the military. Oh yeah!!!!

Hunting endangered species. Oh fuck yeah!!!!

Making water dirty so companies can get richer. Ahhhh, I'm so close.

Separating filthy Mexican babies from their moms. Oh god. I'm cumming!!!!

One can only hope his heart knows how to implode. I'm rooting for KFC to win.

Can't wait for the moment when Trump is no longer useful to Putin.

That's what I want to know.

Both the Palestinians and the North Koreans are pretty much not even talking to us right now. Mother Russia is now seizing ships and kidnapping Ukrainians and we are doing nothing about it. Then of course we have the Saudis who are killing journalists who work for American companies and the State Department seems perfectly fine with that. We are also engaged a massive trade war with China that is damaging our economy for no reason....

Not to mention all of our allies are pissed at us.

So again, Robbie, what exactly has Trump and Pompeo accomplished?

I was wondering if anyone was on this board tonight. It gets quiet here at night, especially on the weekend.

Trump is weak. The weakest president I have seen in my lifetime.

A LOT?

Like what?

What??????

I asked a short, precise, on topic question:

What has Pompeo accomplished that Tillerson could not do ?

You, not me, is claiming many brillant accomplishements...

Should be easy to list à few, no ?

Lmao

Trump sucks so bad Robbie had to use a vague article from a news source he calls fake any other time to try and save face... And still couldn't save face.

So true! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Lets go over this article one country at a time....

Syria..... Trump has done nothing and followed Obama's plan.
Israel.... Moved embassy, pissing off the entire Muslim world. Palestinians refuse to even talk to us.
Afghanistan..... Moved more troops in after promising to wind down. Still no change after seventeen years.
Turkey.... What has done with Turkey? Other than pissing them off with this Saudi Arabia murder?
Russia.... Trump has taken a hard line on Russia? Since when? Right now Russia is bitch smacking Ukraine around, and other than sending a single ship the US hasn't done anything.
North Korea.... LOL. Trump gave the leader of NK a spot on the center stage and then they turned around and increased missile production. Now they don't even talk to us.

Again, another list of things Trump has done is completely and utter wrong.

Trump likes to pretend his is strong, but the truth is he really isn't. He claims he has made our military stronger, when all he did was give our military more money than the year before. This does not make our military stronger. At the same time he has pissed off all of our allies, making us much weaker.

Brother, I linked a WAPO article detailing that for you.
At some point you have to educate yourself. I am not responsible for any willfull ignorance on your part about that subject.

And again...what you are asking (and I supplied you with the link to the answer) has nothing to do with the thread topic (which is whether Trump is "imploding" or not)

I also very clearly said that Tillerson said what Trump wanted to do was "illegal" and therefore he did nothing at all...and yet Pompeo is following Trump's directives and carrying them out with no problem

One guy couldn't do the job. One guy is doing the job.
That is the bottom line.

That's too much reality for Robbie.

When Robbie is backed into a corner with facts like yours he usually ignores the post or brushes it off as the person with all the facts is brainwashed :2 cents:

Will never know what Pompeo accomplished for Trump that Tillerson couldn't do :(:(