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Robbie 12-09-2018 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22379483)
Will never know what Pompeo accomplished for Trump that Tillerson couldn't do :(:(

You won't. But it's easy to ascertain if you just look past your hate for Trump for a second.

On one hand you had Tillerson who was ineffective (that's according to CNN, MSNBC, WAPO, the NY Times and other liberal media outlets). And then he claims that he couldn't do anything because what Trump wanted to do diplomatically was "illegal".

First off...how the hell can diplomacy be "illegal"??? That's what the Secretary Of State is you know. The lead DIPLOMAT of the United States.

But fast forward to now: Trump is happy with Pompeo. I linked you to all the big foreign policy accomplishments (which you STILL claim you didn't look at and therefore you "Will never know").

So if what Trump wanted was "illegal" (for a diplomat...wtf) and Tillerson couldn't do any of it and Trump fired him...then WHY is Pompeo able to fulfill Trump's foreign policy initiatives with no problems?

That's my point.
Tillerson is full of shit.
As I said before...Tillerson is a brilliant and mega successful guy. But being Secretary Of State with Donald Trump as President was a total failure for him.

The two of them didn't seem to ever warm up to each other. It was reported that Tillerson had called Trump a "fucking moron" while working for him.
Obviously Tillerson had a different vision of foreign policy than his boss, The President, did.

So it didn't work.

But "illegal"??? I think the fact that Pompeo is getting the things done is proof that Tillerson is giving his own opinion of why he was ineffective.

Now you can either LOOK at that Washington Post article (since you are ignorant of world affairs and have no idea what Trump has accomplished in foreign policy) and educate yourself...OR, you can just keep posting that you have no idea of it and keep looking dumb.

astronaut x 12-09-2018 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22379037)
I'm not trying to "spin" anything. And you trying to make this about me is just typical stuff on GFY.

I'm TELLING you...Tillerson says that now. But somehow, Mike Pompeo is doing everything that Trump has asked.

Now how can that be if it's "AGAINST THE LAW"?

Answer...because it never was. Tillerson doesn't specify anything. He just said that in general.

And as I pointed out...Pompeo IS getting it done.

Typical sour grapes from a disgruntled employee who couldn't get this particular job done.

It's really just that simple. Tillerson is an incredibly talented and smart person. But it turned out that diplomacy was not his forte.
If you remember...CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times, Washingon Post and all of those other anti-Trump media outlets were attacking Tillerson the entire time he was Secretary Of State and commenting on how ineffective he was.

But now that he says something that casts Trump in a bad light? They love the guy.

I'm not falling for their bullshit. And neither should you.

Tillerson was bad at the job. It's just that simple.
Somehow it was "AGAINST THE LAW" to do what Trump wanted done in diplomacy when Tillerson was there...but now it's perfectly legal and damn effective with Pompeo?

I believe Tillerson just didn't understand Trump's vision and therefore was reluctant to do much. Pompeo on the other hand seems to fit the job of Secretary Of State.

But Trump picks the BEST people

astronaut x 12-09-2018 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22379523)
You won't. But it's easy to ascertain if you just look past your hate for Trump for a second.

On one hand you had Tillerson who was ineffective (that's according to CNN, MSNBC, WAPO, the NY Times and other liberal media outlets). And then he claims that he couldn't do anything because what Trump wanted to do diplomatically was "illegal".

First off...how the hell can diplomacy be "illegal"??? That's what the Secretary Of State is you know. The lead DIPLOMAT of the United States.

But fast forward to now: Trump is happy with Pompeo. I linked you to all the big foreign policy accomplishments (which you STILL claim you didn't look at and therefore you "Will never know").

So if what Trump wanted was "illegal" (for a diplomat...wtf) and Tillerson couldn't do any of it and Trump fired him...then WHY is Pompeo able to fulfill Trump's foreign policy initiatives with no problems?

That's my point.
Tillerson is full of shit.
As I said before...Tillerson is a brilliant and mega successful guy. But being Secretary Of State with Donald Trump as President was a total failure for him.

The two of them didn't seem to ever warm up to each other. It was reported that Tillerson had called Trump a "fucking moron" while working for him.
Obviously Tillerson had a different vision of foreign policy than his boss, The President, did.

So it didn't work.

But "illegal"??? I think the fact that Pompeo is getting the things done is proof that Tillerson is giving his own opinion of why he was ineffective.

Now you can either LOOK at that Washington Post article (since you are ignorant of world affairs and have no idea what Trump has accomplished in foreign policy) and educate yourself...OR, you can just keep posting that you have no idea of it and keep looking dumb.

What has Pompeo accomplished?

https://www.google.com/search?q=nk+missile+sites&client=firefox-b-1&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiAz7C5upTfAh WB1VkKHUoqAJgQ_AUIDigB&biw=1280&bih=674

astronaut x 12-09-2018 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22379334)
Trump likes to pretend his is strong, but the truth is he really isn't. He claims he has made our military stronger, when all he did was give our military more money than the year before. This does not make our military stronger. At the same time he has pissed off all of our allies, making us much weaker.

Its not just that he thinks he is strong... his supporters think he is a strongman leader. The truth is...

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RedFred 12-09-2018 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22379523)

You won't. But it's easy to ascertain if you just look past your hate for Trump for a second.

On one hand you had Tillerson who was ineffective (that's according to CNN, MSNBC, WAPO, the NY Times and other liberal media outlets). And then he claims that he couldn't do anything because what Trump wanted to do diplomatically was "illegal".

First off...how the hell can diplomacy be "illegal"??? That's what the Secretary Of State is you know. The lead DIPLOMAT of the United States.

But fast forward to now: Trump is happy with Pompeo. I linked you to all the big foreign policy accomplishments (which you STILL claim you didn't look at and therefore you "Will never know").

So if what Trump wanted was "illegal" (for a diplomat...wtf) and Tillerson couldn't do any of it and Trump fired him...then WHY is Pompeo able to fulfill Trump's foreign policy initiatives with no problems?

That's my point.
Tillerson is full of shit.
As I said before...Tillerson is a brilliant and mega successful guy. But being Secretary Of State with Donald Trump as President was a total failure for him.

The two of them didn't seem to ever warm up to each other. It was reported that Tillerson had called Trump a "fucking moron" while working for him.
Obviously Tillerson had a different vision of foreign policy than his boss, The President, did.

So it didn't work.

But "illegal"??? I think the fact that Pompeo is getting the things done is proof that Tillerson is giving his own opinion of why he was ineffective.

Now you can either LOOK at that Washington Post article (since you are ignorant of world affairs and have no idea what Trump has accomplished in foreign policy) and educate yourself...OR, you can just keep posting that you have no idea of it and keep looking dumb.

And there you have it. Robbie could care less if the President is a crook. His cult followers are morally bankrupt.

VRPdommy 12-09-2018 10:05 PM

My answer is yes... but ask again in 30 days.
It will be interesting to see if anyone has a change of heart.

Nobody will work for him. What quality person will put themselves through that ?
I really don't care what the reasons are for it, but you rely on other skillful folks to get it done.
If you can't get'm, where does that leave you ?
I think that most will realize that within those next 30 days.
I will say and give 'some' credit for trade as it pertains to China, but will that cost more than it's worth in the end ?
Only time will answer that in perhaps a year or more. I think it was a bit to aggressive.

But I also think once his tax returns are out there... it's over for him in every sense of the word.
That too is a matter of time. Not if but when.

ilnjscb 12-10-2018 08:33 PM

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Bladewire 12-10-2018 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22379530)
And there you have it. Robbie could care less if the President is a crook. His cult followers are morally bankrupt.

True. Trumps minions feel he gives them permission to be openly hateful xenophobes, bigots, racists, etc.

It's amazing what price they're willing to pay to have "permission" to openly hate.

Robbie will never again be seen as the cool band guy with a beautiful wife that has huge titts. Now he's the hate troll that explains away treasonous crimes against America because "his team" and "Orange Man King"

Rochard 12-10-2018 09:06 PM

Robbie is a great example of what the problem is.... He firmly believes Trump is doing great, but cannot back it up with any thing.

We are now two years into Trump's administration and other than a massive tax cut for the rich he has nothing to show for it. Not a single thing is done. In the Middle East the Palestinians won't even talk to us, they haven't done anything about the opioid crisis, the computer issues with the VA are getting worse, North Korea is enlarging their missile program, the Russians are physically walking all over Ukraine, we have a trade war with China and American businesses are shutting down....

Of course this doesn't even get into how the Trump administration is knee deep in the largest investigation since Watergate which threatens to impeach Trump.

How do people not see this?

RedFred 12-11-2018 05:00 AM

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