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Rochard 12-11-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22380254)
maybe...

What we DO know is that Trump Jnr meet with her handler Alexander Torshin one of Putin's top men.. a week before the Trump tower meeting.

Alexander Torshin is also the guy who brought the president of the National Rifle Association, David Keene, as an honoured guest at the conference of the Right to Bear Arms, a gun lobby in Moscow.

:)

Who else did she meet with? How many people did she meet with at the GOP, and what was discussed? LOL.

VRPdommy 12-11-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22380302)
Who else did she meet with? How many people did she meet with at the GOP, and what was discussed? LOL.

How many people like her are there ?

pimpmaster9000 12-12-2018 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22380193)
Point well taken except, most times, the US have been a easy unjust target for those claims in self promotion when things are not going well for Putin and those like him.

So these 'allegations' come with some level of proof, whereas those that Putin have used come only as allegations in self promotion.

But I suggest to you, that all of us as a people should be against corruption of our leaders and those yielding power and influence with money are against all of our common interest.

If the political system here in the states has taught us anything only some recognize is that they keep you fighting each other while they continue to do their deeds unnoticed.

Everyone should re-think just who their 'TEAM' is they are routing for.
I have nothing against the peoples anywhere in the world. Many minds have been filled with hate to provide a political objective. The sooner everyone sees that the sooner we can correct it.


the USA can not afford to leave other countries alone...a lot of its economy depends on the direct exploitation of others and selling the defense racket and making them accept US inflation..."good guys finish last" is the name of the game, you will never win at poker while 1 player keeps cheating...you cheat or you get fucked...

also, are americans willing to change?...are they REALLY willing to give up their lifestyle so that other countries can have more freedom? I do not believe this for 1 second...interfering with others is now part of the american culture...if a paid thug goes to invade he will get a "thank you for your service" from 99% of the population...he will be called a "hero"...

america is too far gone IMO...

JFK 12-12-2018 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22379754)
I believe, at this point, Trump was a useful idiot for the Russians, and is a useless idiot for us.

This ........:upsidedow

marlboroack 12-12-2018 02:14 PM

Damn that's fucked

VRPdommy 12-12-2018 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22380611)
the USA can not afford to leave other countries alone...a lot of its economy depends on the direct exploitation of others and selling the defense racket and making them accept US inflation..."good guys finish last" is the name of the game, you will never win at poker while 1 player keeps cheating...you cheat or you get fucked...

also, are americans willing to change?...are they REALLY willing to give up their lifestyle so that other countries can have more freedom? I do not believe this for 1 second...interfering with others is now part of the american culture...if a paid thug goes to invade he will get a "thank you for your service" from 99% of the population...he will be called a "hero"...

america is too far gone IMO...

IMHO, we have all been given the shaft by our countries twists and turns manufactured by large corporations and others with as much money.

The current US and THEM point of argument has shifted but nobody sees it for what it is. We are all give other US and THEM arguments to fight.

Everyone seems content to be a pond on the chessboard.
The first to be sacrificed to protect the larger pieces.

Diomed 12-12-2018 05:52 PM

Watching you people echo chamber shit out is hilarious.

It's like watching an hour long procession of people patting each other on the back saying "you are good".

Bladewire and his Merry band of Fake Nics has this place sewn up air tight. Engagement and interest will continue to wain.

This thread, is the first of many more like it to come. The interest that Bladey is paid to have as a shill (insert his post history link here), will never balance out to the reality of someone who isn't paid to feign public opinion.

At that point, he will have to assume the role of "the opposition" as well.

Perhaps then Mark will be sated in his quest for some type of debate on the matter.

To those not getting paid to post political horse shit - wake the fuck up. Look at yourself, your life, and what you are choosing to do with your time.

#RIPGFYFORMERADULTFORUM

VRPdommy 12-12-2018 09:34 PM




King Mark 12-12-2018 10:11 PM

Human nature tends to make you block anything that makes you have to admit you were wrong. The easy route is to ride this to impeachment. Have fun with that.

Sarn 12-13-2018 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22381079)
Human nature tends to make you block anything that makes you have to admit you were wrong. The easy route is to ride this to impeachment. Have fun with that.

impeeeeachment!!!
Before Butina agenda
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/e2OA0ApBu1o/maxresdefault.jpg

After :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
https://www.vokrug.tv/pic/product/2/...cbf4ad803.jpeg

crockett 12-13-2018 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22379726)
So she's pleading guilty of conspiring against the U.S. since 2015 and acting as an agent of a foreign government.

Nothing to see here, no collussion right? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh stupid tRumplestiltskins!

The more important thing in her conviction is that it's on record that she attempted to infiltrate Republican run groups/orgs to affect their policies.

Added to this she was successful at doing such.. Also her live in boyfriend or "sucker" is a high ranking Republican who us also getting convicted in this.

VRPdommy 12-13-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22381146)
The more important thing in her conviction is that it's on record that she attempted to infiltrate Republican run groups/orgs to affect their policies.

Added to this she was successful at doing such.. Also her live in boyfriend or "sucker" is a high ranking Republican who us also getting convicted in this.

A NothingBurger with a billions worth of special sauce.

I really want this exposed right down to the how they dunit.
Really don't care who is all involved... get'm all.

Giuliani exposed for involvement with trump and Billions worth of fraud/theft coming and the AMI stuff will show connections with Saudi money corruption.

It begs yet one more special council if they are not connected and Mueller can't go there
Drain that swamp.

Guess we will have to wait and see what comes to light in the Butina sentence, if anything.

But the NRA now has the NSA on it's tail 'cause this isn't just a FBI/SC thing.
They don't play by the same rules as the FBI. They can likely collaborate all the overseas contacts as they become relevant to the FBI investigation.

To many of these seemingly dead end leads seem to point back to Nashville and Mitch McConnell.

Bladewire 12-13-2018 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22381146)
The more important thing in her conviction is that it's on record that she attempted to infiltrate Republican run groups/orgs to affect their policies.

Added to this she was successful at doing such.. Also her live in boyfriend or "sucker" is a high ranking Republican who us also getting convicted in this.

I think the NRA was infiltrated a few years before Butina. The NRA has been adversarial to the majority of Americas interest since 2010. In 2012 they spent $32 million on politics and the dead child victims of Sandy Hook that were murdered that year were called "crisis actors". We know these kinds of conspiracy tactics are Russian.

In 2010 the RT America network was launched.

In 2010 the NRA expanded it's agenda outside it's norm of just gun control.

Beyond Guns: N.R.A. Expands Agenda - 2010

"The N.R.A., long a powerful lobby on gun rights issues, has in recent months also weighed in on such varied issues as health care, campaign finance, credit card regulations and Supreme Court nominees."

VRPdommy 12-13-2018 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22381274)
I think the NRA was infiltrated a few years before Butina. The NRA has been adversarial to the majority of Americas interest since 2010. In 2012 they spent $32 million on politics and the dead child victims of Sandy Hook that were murdered that year were called "crisis actors". We know these kinds of conspiracy tactics are Russian.

In 2010 the RT America network was launched.

In 2010 the NRA expanded it's agenda outside it's norm of just gun control.

Beyond Guns: N.R.A. Expands Agenda - 2010

"The N.R.A., long a powerful lobby on gun rights issues, has in recent months also weighed in on such varied issues as health care, campaign finance, credit card regulations and Supreme Court nominees."

I don't think you will ever be able to track all of the money in just this one case.
Money to political campaigns, money for disinformation campaigns to folks 'like' Cambridge Analytica, Issue oriented adds of disinformation,, money given to other NON-Profits where guns are not the issue but issue adds to target foes of the same.
Then there is back channel money and favor exchange ??

AMI managed to keep money off the table and is in this form of 'favor exchange'.


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