don’t read britebart. NATO dropped bombs. Your country is a part of nato. Calling you mein kampf is no different than calling you Lütz. It’s just a general, over broad nick name. It does, however, enumerate my point at how sensitive your brethren have become.

Yep, and I get the feeling a lot of the chaos and inaction in response to that is because our Conservatives have been as relaxed as the Republicans in the US when it comes to dark money.

Ultimately, I think it will have to come down to another vote, and this time it will be with the knowledge that we were attacked. I think May might be holding that card to the last minute, then when her "deal" falls through she'll make a televised announcement that the risk to the country is too great to go ahead with a no-deal Brexit, outline how we were attacked, play it off as "new evidence has come to light" etc.

Brexit has already been factored in.. the problem is Italy and now it looks like France are about to blow their budgets, if they're allowed to Spain will as well.

We are bombing Syria and Iraq because ISIS is trying to overthrow the governments. If 100,000s Muslims were living in peace, no one would be dropping bombs.

Merkel invited the migrants in. Germany hould deal with it.

The entire reason so many Eurozone countries are in a mess is the fault of the EU. They launched the currency without any central control of spending and borrowing, then they allowed anyone who applied to have the Euro. This is the mess the EU created.

https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/2...roduct-gdp.jpg

When they can't launch a currency and keep control of it, don't even dream dream of controlling a continent.

Then get to work and stop coming up with stupid excuses.

What is clear from the previous link I post, is the EU is bad for most countries. They are all forced to borrow beyond their means to support the growing needs,

I'm not anti-migration. My Mother and Father, brother, cousin all migrated and me. But we had to make sure we were bringing in more than we took out. Low paid and unemployed migrants don't contribute.

the fuck she did, she just didn't put up the army at the border after Hungary and Austria let them pass

all you do is parrot false propaganda, you really should spend your precious time doing more pleasant things

no, it's actually a sign how Trump has unleashed nationalism - and you being a fine example

and you are completely wrong about the NATO part - but it's not surprising, Trump also doesn't understand how NATO works

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This is how communicating with Trump propoganda zombies usually goes:

Trumper: Tells a lie or series of lies

Patriot: Posts links to prove they are wrong

Trumper: Changes subject, tells another lie or series of lies

Patriot: Posts links to prove they are wrong. Reminds Trumper that you showed them proof before.

Trumper: Fake news

Patriot: Facts are facts

Trumper: Well Hillary Clinton (fill in the blank)

Patriot: Posts links to prove they are wrong

Trumper: Well Obama (fill in the blank)

Patriot: Posts links to prove they are wrong

Trumper: Stops posting in thread, continues in other threads.

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germoni in nato
NATO under work :1orglaugh

Corrupt anti-democratic totalitarian regime running a "union" which is on the brink of collapse because of the euro (no citizens vote), hundreds of billions of contribution going nowhere (no citizens vote) and the mass immigration agenda (no citizens vote). But yes it's such a great club to be part of... jesus i wonder what you've been smoking, it really clouds your brain.

May is an EU stooge who has to make a deal against her and her puppet masters wishes and interests. If they could, they would ignore the citizens and wipe their ass with the democratic vote, like they always do. But they can't, and May comes home with a "compromise" essentially saying the UK will leave the EU, but in reality will still be part of it... a spit in the face of the voters.

Out with May who represents the EU before her country, do a hard no deal Brexit and be free of EU prison... The EU needs the UK more than vice versa for gods sake. The EU is burning, literally!
Someone who actually would put the UK first would have left the EU by now and let the EU fuck itself up like they've been doing the last decades.

And anyone who actually supports the ludicrous anti democratic 'second referendum' idea should move to a dictatorship, since you cannot handle REAL DEMOCRACY.

FREEDOM!

It's completely fucking insane to watch people defend the surrender of their borders, their nation, their legal system, their economy, their currency, their banking rules and regulations, their immigration policies, their very sense of identity, etc to a foreign power.

Only a lazy coward thinks like that... or thinks that is acceptable.

No nation ever became great, thrived and endured by surrendering to another power.

Only a fucking idiot can look at that scenario and not understand that like Communism, it fully contradicts who and what we are as a species and is doomed to fail. We are tribal. The idea is "join the non-tribe". That's so fucking idiotic.

It's completely fucking insane that some of you retards can't understand why another nation on the other end of the continent, who doesn't share your history, your language, your culture or your values wants to preserve their identity and who and what they are and control their own fate and destiny

As usual, King Smug Self Righteous German Dickhead himself, Stefan calls you ugly names with horrible connotations if your a Latvian Farmer who has his own feelings on the issue. "join us or you're a cunt". Such solid arguments really make it sound like a real great place to be.

God forbid people actually choose their own destiny. Only those who are a real threat to freedom and democracy would view the idea that people should have the right to choose their own destiny and shape their own future with their own hands, with disdain.

what a fucking nonsense !!!!!

the refugees came to EUROPE and not to germany.

Germany took only the most of them because it is the obligation of EVERY COUNTRY that signed the Geneva Convetion.

Why a fuck you want to blame Germany for standing what they have signed for ?
Blame the others who didn´t do that and Germany would have a lot less of them.

why do you worry the german people ?

We can deal with that.
It is not our problem when people like you are too weak to do that.

paul you should really shut the fuck up because you have no idea what you are talking about.

EVERY counzry that joined the EU had a SIGNIFICANT increase of GDP.

if you post numbers of countries with high debt you should also show the historical number because ALL of them lowered their negative balance in the past years.

the only one that is still INCREASING the dept even faster after the end of the financial crisis is your good moron friend trump. he's given all americans a bird-cawed economic growth for which they pay themselves because it's 100% based on debt.

the GDP in the US went from 2017 to 2018 from 18,6 to 20,3 trillion
so a plus of 1,7 trillion.
in the same time the government dept went up from 19.8 trillion to 21.8 trillion
a plus of 2.0 trillion

so what a fuck are you talking about ???

can´t you accept facts or are you too stupid for simple maths ?

Hey Ruskie, look:

Nazi Soviets together in Moscow in 1941 !!!!



Do they teach that in schools in (Soviet) Russia today ?

divided Europe will be for sure strong :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
such a wonderful gift to Russia, USA and China :)
thx for your concerns !
ps. I respect UK decision, no reason for a hostility between EU and UK

already gone 23 years and Poland still not have no one invasion as in old good times :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://i.redd.it/j6te8nk3y4n01.jpg

You're truly messed up in the head, but that's alright, we know what you are and what you stand for. Very predictable and a useful idiot of the European closed community of the elite.

The EU fails to protect it's borders from illegal migrants which contains criminals and terrorists. No army was sent to Greece, Spain and Italy to protect their borders.

After Merkel invited them in. https://www.google.com/search?ei=DN0....klQ9k S8i-Jc

The figures I posted were from debt in relationship to GDP. Can´t you accept facts or are you too stupid for simple maths ?

The truth is few countries in the EU are able to pay for the rising costs of looking after their citizens. Why do you think this is?

All this takes a back seat in their drive to unite Europe under a single government with no say from the people. Both Thommy and Stefan can trip out in look at how well Germany and big corporations have done. Ignoring the facts that most Europeans are poorer because of their stupid governments and the EU.

Don't forget Thommy.

This thread is about the EU and Europe not Trump.

says the invader from invader land :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

When a club has to threaten members who want leave with a complete mess. You know they are scared others will follow.

A club that can't appeal to it's members is doomed.

The EU is a Union of States. No one surrenders anything.

If that is a bit to complicated for you think about the United States of America.

Similar but different. The countries of Europe that make up the EU actually have their own governments and elections. Their own armed forces and defense policy. Their soverenty is actually enshrined in law.

So really my boy you are barking up the wrong tree attacking the Eu if that rant is what you really believe. It sounds like you should be looking closer to home.

Or are you just talking out of your arse again ?

So why does EU law supersede the laws of the different States?

In America Federal law supersedes state law, just like EU vs state law.

Why do you hate America & EU so much Paul?

Why do you want the United States & the United EU weakened and broken up Paul? Russia & China wants THE EU & United States weaker & broken up as well.

Paul, in some minor policy areas Eu law is given priority by ALL member states. Otherwise it would not work.

Therefore there is an EU wide common fishing policy. But in terms of defense, tax, foreign policy, elections etc etc UK law is sovereign.

Do you understand yet Paul ?

Paul, the countries that had to be bailed out by the EU were not the ones like the UK and Germany who put in more than they receive.

The likes of Greece were already net gain from the EU. Their financial problems were a simple case of their governments financial incompetence.

not to forget that the "greece problem" lead to the low interest rate.

ALL countries with higher dept have been able to reduce this debt for this reason.

even germany what had one of the lowest debts in the EU saved til today a few hundred billion in interest and lowered the total debt significant. countries with higher debt than Germany had saved a lot more - thanks greece !!!

but don´t try to explain that to paul - he can think from his wallet to his trouser pocked and back. he will never have the big view on those things as he simply does not have the skills for it.

I will tell you how people like paul understand the EU:

let´s say an Asutrian company delivers jam to UK and writes on it "Marmelade" the brits came up with an EU law that this have to be ruled.
and yes the EU did it and in the complete EU it is obligate to write "Marmelade" on marmelade and Jam or confiture on Jam.
And this even when the austrian german does not have a word for Jam or confiture. they only knew it as marmelade but they accepted it.

when the EU agreed to take the decimal system as a common measure, the British were completely angry with the EU because they calculate everything in inches.

if the majority of the EU would have agreed to take over the english system (which nobody knows), the EU would be something good. but since they didn't do that, the brits call it unfair and expose it to their own laws.

in short: as long as everything is done the way the brits want it to be, such a community is good from a british point of view. as soon as they have to move their ass themselves and adapt, it just doesn't work.

so I personally think it's good if they go out of the EU. I'm only afraid in 5-6 years they'll beg on their knees to be allowed to go back in because they'll have noticed that 50 million little people are too easily overlooked in a global market of 8000 million people.

First off it's marmalade with an a.
Jam is not marmalade, there is a difference. It is not the UK's fault that people do not know the difference between jam and marmalade.

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https://spectator.imgix.net/content/...op&w=820&h=550

more taxes, more laws, more burreaucracy - if thats EU recpie for success, then good luck with that.
France and Italy are the best examples for that.

for some "strange" reasons the capital prefers other destinations...

The EU will eventually collapse, its not a matter of if, but a matter of when, Its a Domino effect that will be unleashed when one of the major Contributers to the EU exits.

What happened with the country Greece Grexiting a few years back was a stunt to show other EU countries that if you leave, this is what happens if you go against the family (EU).

When Britain leaves, then France will, if France goes, bye bye Italy. Then its RIP EURO ZONE.

The idea of a Fake United Europe was never gonna work, all the countries are different people with different histories and different languages.

Germany has not changed since the 1940's, they still want to rule over Europe. Only now they dont need machine guns, just banks.

So when the OP says "If this one ever happens, that is." oh it will, All good things come to an end. :1orglaugh

that´s correct and it WAS fixed by a EU law.
but the same happens when it comes to the decimal system.
the majority of europe is not used to the english metrics and now the decimal system is the standard.

but in THAT case you call it paternalism.

The UK uses the metric system, it changed all it's measurements to conform with the EU, so not sure where you are going with that?