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Sarn 12-20-2018 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22384328)
The Pentagon is not "liberal" you stupid piece of shit

Pentagon, not happy. Putin, happy: Trump calls for removal of troops from Syria

:1orglaugh
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Sarn 12-20-2018 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22384267)
He has to please his master Putin, who is very happy about this!


and this




Trump admin to lift sanctions on firms owned by Russian oligarch Deripaska

lift sanctions it is good, need capture something else :1orglaugh

aimike 12-20-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22384545)
Chump is weak and cowers to dictators.

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Grapesoda 12-20-2018 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22384260)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/u...ithdrawal.html

Less waging war is what he promised and it looks like he delivers. Unlike every other president before him. This is a milestone in the history of United States' usual policy of perpetual invasions, wars and coups. This is great news, even people on the left are probably applauding this anti war stance :thumbsup

Russian collusion, just ask rockhard :2 cents:

Grapesoda 12-20-2018 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22384514)
Should Paul be constantly interfering in American politics?

only mark prince can answer that :2 cents:

Sarn 12-20-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by aimike (Post 22384579)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Grapesoda 12-20-2018 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22384523)
this is why I hope small countries will nuke/bacteria up real soon...our lives are worth exactly 0 to the invader and until we develop the "off" switch to life on earth the invader will have "ideas" about what to do with your life...but once we develop "off" then the invader will cherish your life very very very very very much...

what I do not understand is why people play the invaders rigged game with this regular warfare bullshit..."fuck off or die" is the perfect foreign policy, there is nothing to talk about, there is nothing to negotiate...if the USA does not like something it can fuck off or die...is this not beautiful?

interesting and exactly what is america bringing that warrants destruction of the planet? clean water, healthy care, schools, voting, equal rights for women?

which one?

Sarn 12-20-2018 07:39 AM

Putin: ‘US right to leave Syria, but no signs of pullout – remember Afghanistan’
https://www.rt.com/news/447001-putin-syria-us-troops/

astronaut x 12-20-2018 07:46 AM

Kind of funny how he directed strikes on russian and syrian targets, and was so proud of them on twitter, and now he wants out.

He is so flawed.

So fucking weak.

pimpmaster9000 12-20-2018 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22384586)
interesting and exactly what is america bringing that warrants destruction of the planet? clean water, healthy care, schools, voting, equal rights for women?

which one?

you are invader gangsters with selective memory...your memory will improve vastly once we all have "off"...

King Mark 12-20-2018 08:09 AM

50 pissed off euros

Busty2 12-20-2018 08:16 AM

Private bone spur runs away from the truth !

Grapesoda 12-20-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22384348)
No one WANTS to wage war. You wage war when war is called for.

As I stated above, I was always against us being in Syria. I stated my reasons above. But now I question the entire logic behind the withdrawal. Trump has said he doesn't want American deaths in Syria (but Afghanistan is fine), and he has also said we have defeated ISIS (but we obviously haven't). The two reasons he has given us for the withdrawal are completely false.

According to his own logic, he did the direct opposite of what he should have done. He should have withdrawn troops from Afghanistan (because he doesn't want American deaths) but should have put more troops in Syria (because he is concerned about defeating ISIS).

It's time to accept that our President is completely owned by Putin.

do you even understand why we are in syria?

Grapesoda 12-20-2018 10:11 AM

[QUOTE=crucifissio;22384591]you are invader gangsters with selective memory...your memory will improve vastly once we all have "off"...[/QUOTnope


I'm a former pornographer now living with his daughter and grandson studying music full time.

be best to stop applying your imaginative escapades to other people, that's why you all fucked up in the first place... you believe all your mind reading is factual... you are in big trouble intellectually, like all the other mind readers here at GFY.

hot tip for you: mind reading is not real, that is called projection. you're projecting imagined behaviours on to other people thinking that you are communicating with them. you are not.

what you are doing is very similar to speaking with living room furniture and getting answers :2 cents:

Rochard 12-20-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22384633)
do you even understand why we are in syria?

I only devour books on military history in my free time - I am currently reading "Saipan: The Beginning of the End" about the Marines taking Saipan towards the end of WWII - and discuss and debate military strategy both past and present on military related message board so... No, I wouldn't know the three reasons we are in Syria.

MaDalton 12-20-2018 11:40 AM

Erdogan hates the Kurds (which are the closest to being modern and secular in that area) and wants to eradicate them

Unfortunately US troops are allies of the Kurds and therefore in the way

Last week Erdogan buys American Patriot system for 3,5 billion usd

This week Trump moves US troops out of the way and Erdogan announces strike against the Kurds - and can now slaughter them without accidentally targetting US troops.

Dealmaker Trump strikes again - secured business for US military industry and it will only cost a few thousand lives of brown people he doesn't like or care about anyways

:2 cents:

pimpmaster9000 12-20-2018 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22384679)
Erdogan hates the Kurds (which are the closest to being modern and secular in that area) and wants to eradicate them

Unfortunately US troops are allies of the Kurds and therefore in the way

Last week Erdogan buys American Patriot system for 3,5 billion usd

This week Trump moves US troops out of the way and Erdogan announces strike against the Kurds - and can now slaughter them without accidentally targetting US troops.

Dealmaker Trump strikes again - secured business for US military industry and it will only cost a few thousand lives of brown people he doesn't like or care about anyways

:2 cents:

yes this is the new war-as-a-service industry...another example: they sell weapons to mohhamed bone saw and he uses them to bomb yemen and USIS re-fuels the bombers mid-attack and they go back and bomb some more...its like big game hunting only with humans and on a massive scale...

Sarn 12-20-2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22384640)
I only devour books on military history in my free time - I am currently reading "Saipan: The Beginning of the End" about the Marines taking Saipan towards the end of WWII - and discuss and debate military strategy both past and present on military related message board so... No, I wouldn't know the three reasons we are in Syria.

Books? I like looks direct speech former leaders and watch old propaganda films) in books wrote lie often especially modern authors and difficult understand what happened in history.

This old Hollywood film wipe from youtube))









and relaxation after ideological pressure))


Sarn 12-20-2018 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22384679)
Erdogan hates the Kurds (which are the closest to being modern and secular in that area) and wants to eradicate them

Unfortunately US troops are allies of the Kurds and therefore in the way

Last week Erdogan buys American Patriot system for 3,5 billion usd

This week Trump moves US troops out of the way and Erdogan announces strike against the Kurds - and can now slaughter them without accidentally targetting US troops.

Dealmaker Trump strikes again - secured business for US military industry and it will only cost a few thousand lives of brown people he doesn't like or care about anyways

:2 cents:

We offered them(Kurds) help a few years ago, but they chose the USA(even Obama talk about withdrawing troops from ME).
You can't blame Trump with it, Patriot system - it is a defense weapon, with Russian S400 it will be good echeloned air defense system in Turkey

MaDalton 12-20-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22384704)
We offered them(Kurds) help a few years ago, but they chose the USA(even Obama talk about withdrawing troops from ME).
You can't blame Trump with it, Patriot system - it is a defense weapon, with Russian S400 it will be good echeloned air defense system in Turkey

yes, comrade...

Sarn 12-20-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22384706)
yes, comrade...


directfiesta 12-20-2018 03:51 PM

Mattis Has resigned eff. end of feb.

Another one bites the dust

Rochard 12-20-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22384696)
Books? I like looks direct speech former leaders and watch old propaganda films) in books wrote lie often especially modern authors and difficult understand what happened in history.

I disagree. Here in the United States we were taught in school that Americans saved the day with the D-Day landings and we liberated Europe. That's very cute. You can argue the US saved England and liberated France but... Russia not only suffered more than any other country, but they also won what we call WWII.

I went to France as a teenager in the 1980s and was blown away by what I saw in Normandy. I came home and dove right into books, starting with Mein Kampf.

While some writers might have a slant or even an agenda, after so much time this is less so... And you compare it other books and what was written.

My favorite book is Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer.

Bladewire 12-20-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22384774)
Mattis Has resigned eff. end of feb.

Another one bites the dust

Trump destroys the lives of those who support him.


Poor Mattis :1orglaugh Obama fires Mattis in 2013 and he quits under Trump :1orglaugh

Robbie 12-20-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22384516)
Weird seeing the POTUS ignoring his own military and advisers to make Russia happy.

Weird seeing the POTUS upset the nations allies and long term friends with an ill conceived knee jerk reaction.

Or it should be.......

We are very deliberately a country run by CIVILIANS. The PRESIDENT is in charge of the military.
Yes, Generals and military advisers always want war.
It was POTUS in the past taking that great advice that got us into Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.

The USA is the leader. Our "allies" have been sucking off of our teat for years. Yeah...they want the United States to send our young men & women to die. Rah-rah!!! Hooray for the military!!

No...the PRESIDENT is the one that was elected by the people. Not generals. Not "advisers". And damn sure not the media who are trying to make this out as if the President is supposed to be some kind of puppet to the military.

All the liberal media outlets CHEERED when Obama ignored his generals and advisors and withdrew out of Iraq. Now they are attacking Trump for getting our military out of a country that we are in ILLEGALLY. Syria never asked us to "help" them.
They have been a Russian ally for longer than any of us have even been alive.

I see ZERO reason for our people to be in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria...or any other country.

It's military and "advisers" who keep us bogged down fighting for nothing in all these country's.

Bin Laden is dead. Has been for several years now.
Sadaam Hussein is dead. Has been for many years.

So WHAT are we fighting for?
Yeah...boogiemen that the powers that be keep making up to keep us scared and keep the money flowing and the military all over the world.
:disgust

Paul Markham 12-21-2018 05:15 AM

Liberals please reply.

Why is it bad for Russia to interfere in US/EU elections with their bots. And good for the US/UK to interfere in other countries with troops and machines.

pimpmaster9000 12-21-2018 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22385027)
Liberals please reply.

Why is it bad for Russia to interfere in US/EU elections with their bots. And good for the US/UK to interfere in other countries with troops and machines.

because of massive double standards and selective memory...


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Sarn 12-21-2018 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22384799)
I disagree. Here in the United States we were taught in school that Americans saved the day with the D-Day landings and we liberated Europe. That's very cute. You can argue the US saved England and liberated France but... Russia not only suffered more than any other country, but they also won what we call WWII.

I went to France as a teenager in the 1980s and was blown away by what I saw in Normandy. I came home and dove right into books, starting with Mein Kampf.

While some writers might have a slant or even an agenda, after so much time this is less so... And you compare it other books and what was written.

My favorite book is Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer.

History in school for brings up his country’s Patriots. I prefer true.




Bladewire 12-21-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22385027)
Liberals please reply.

Why is it bad for Russia to interfere in US/EU elections with their bots. And good for the US/UK to interfere in other countries with troops and machines.

Why do you always side with dictatorships & bad players that want America to fail?

Why do you want Western Civilization to lose Democracy? Is it because you think non whites breed like mice and Western Democracies will all be run by minorities if majority rules, and go down the shitter because you think they're inferior?

It seems like you think a leader like Putin controlling white societies is the only way to reduce minority numbers in white society because you know he'll create mass genocide on minorities. You are wrong. Putin is shit, Erdoğan is shit. Duterte is shit. Mohammad bin Salman is shit. Your judgement in leaders is shit.

thommy 12-21-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22384271)
Not taking your expert foreign policy analysis and access to top government officials into account (you must have that access to get to such a bold statement), here's a simple question: Do you want more Americans and foreigners to die on foreign soil or less?

do you know what the army he gets out of afganistan did there ?

they trained the local army to fight ISIS.

problem for trump here is the following:

when they are successful and could fight ISIS they will not buy more weapons.
so better donīt teach them to do it and keep the biz going.

syria is even worse because there he had to fight indirectly with the russians and putin does not like that.

so here it is also better to sell weapons to ISIS and the syrian army and keep the biz going.

if money would not be the reason I would say: right done

but letīs see for wich other country he needs this troops.

Paul Markham 12-21-2018 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22385073)
Why do you always side with dictatorships & bad players that want America to fail?

Why do you want Western Civilization to lose Democracy? Is it because you think non whites breed like mice and Western Democracies will all be run by minorities if majority rules, and go down the shitter because you think they're inferior?

It seems like you think a leader like Putin controlling white societies is the only way to reduce minority numbers in white society because you know he'll create mass genocide on minorities. You are wrong. Putin is shit, Erdoğan is shit. Duterte is shit. Mohammad bin Salman is shit. Your judgement in leaders is shit.

So it's coll for America to interfere in the politics of other countries, even if that means killing 100,000s of civilians. But not cool if anyone interferes with American politics. Unless they are very rich.

OK we understand where you're coming from.


Bladewire 12-21-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22385126)
So it's coll for America to interfere in the politics of other countries, even if that means killing 100,000s of civilians. But not cool if anyone interferes with American politics. Unless they are very rich.

OK we understand where you're coming from.

Aaaahhhh so you go off topic and deflect again when backed into a losing corner. Got it :thumbsup

MaDalton 12-21-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22385126)

you posting this is one of the most amusing things ever

Paul Markham 12-21-2018 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22385129)
Aaaahhhh so you go off topic and deflect again when backed into a losing corner. Got it :thumbsup

Why is it off topic to ask whether America should be interfering with other countries?

MFCT 12-21-2018 11:03 AM

Back to the original topic, i.e. what this thread was originally about before someone tried to deflect from it by goading others into turning it into a personal-attack back-and-fourth.

If Nobel peace prize-winning Obama had been the one responsible for this, I would have celebrated with tears of joy and would have danced in the streets alongside my like-minded brethren and sistren and sisgendren and non-binarian.

However, since I don't agree with Trump politically, please understand that I can only view this news with the deepest anguish, and profess it as further proof that Trump is racist.

If I may quote a deep thinker of our time and use his words out of context to accurately describe how we all should react to this news: "My disappointment is immeasurable. And my day is ruined."

Bladewire 12-21-2018 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22385138)
Why is it off topic to ask whether America should be interfering with other countries?

Because I asked you 3 questions.

You answered none of my questions.

Then you ask an off topic question to deflect.

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22385073)
Why do you always side with dictatorships & bad players that want America to fail?

Why do you want Western Civilization to lose Democracy? Is it because you think non whites breed like mice and Western Democracies will all be run by minorities if majority rules, and go down the shitter because you think they're inferior?

It seems like you think a leader like Putin controlling white societies is the only way to reduce minority numbers in white society because you know he'll create mass genocide on minorities. You are wrong. Putin is shit, Erdoğan is shit. Duterte is shit. Mohammad bin Salman is shit. Your judgement in leaders is shit.


bronco67 12-21-2018 11:15 AM

So Trump gets a call from Erdogan telling him the Turks are making a move on the Kurds and he'd better get the US troops out of there...and that's exactly what he does. And the reason he's doing it is not that he gives a single shit about any of your troops, but that he's worried what it's going to look like if they start dying. He's a little bitch ass.

Paul Markham 12-21-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22385110)
do you know what the army he gets out of afganistan did there ?

they trained the local army to fight ISIS.

problem for trump here is the following:

when they are successful and could fight ISIS they will not buy more weapons.
so better donīt teach them to do it and keep the biz going.

syria is even worse because there he had to fight indirectly with the russians and putin does not like that.

so here it is also better to sell weapons to ISIS and the syrian army and keep the biz going.

if money would not be the reason I would say: right done

but letīs see for wich other country he needs this troops.

Anyone who thinks the presence of foreign troops in the ME will stop or start ME people from killing each other needs educating.

If they don't buy weapons from the West, Russia and China will be more than happy to sell them.

But we have come to expect this level of deep thought from Thommy. :Oh crap

thommy 12-21-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22385138)
Why is it off topic to ask whether America should be interfering with other countries?

it is not that he goes out there. it is just another prove that he made america unpredictable and unreliable.

trump would send troops and give a fuck on thousands of lifes if there is some money or advantage for HIMSELF.

look back into this 2 years and tell me who was THE ONLY ONE who had advantages from all trump did. it is PUTIN !!! PUTIN plays him !

trump is not only unpredictable for the whole world he is also unpredictable for everyone in USA.
look at the markets today !!!!
today was one of this rare days when quite good numbers showed uo and the markets fall. the reason is that NOBODY trusts him anymore. nobody relies on what he is saying or doing. the very best what companies and investors can do now is to go to sleep and wait til he is gone.

he does not do what is the BEST - he does what his dumb followers will THINK what is the best. and as we all know HOW dumb his followers are it CAN NOT BE THE BEST!

i am strongly against any kind of war or military intervention in any country of this world but the political situation is not that a sitting president can remove over night EVERYTHING what all other presidents did (even when it was wrong).
and THIS with such a stupid explanation (ISIS is defeated) that you can see that this was a decision from minutes without thinking through the consequences.

FIRST of all he should stop selling weapons to the saudies what directly forward them to ISIS. THAT would be a good first step and after that further steps can follow.

america have CAUSED the problems in the middle east. ok - not trump but he represents only HIMSELF and not america - a president have to represent the whole country including itīs mistakes and including a bad history.
this history is not from the table with such a 5-minutes decision. ISIS will sell it as a victory over america and the west and with this victory they will become stronger in the muslim world.

this hydrogen blonde creature lacks foresight and that puts america in a very bad position in every conceivable way. what he rally did was not ending a war. he have started it.

thommy 12-21-2018 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22385199)
Anyone who thinks the presence of foreign troops in the ME will stop or start ME people from killing each other needs educating.

If they don't buy weapons from the West, Russia and China will be more than happy to sell them.

But we have come to expect this level of deep thought from Thommy. :Oh crap

not at all paul.

I would appreciate if the dumbfuck learned that but what you expect as a gesture of honor is not honorable.

he leaves people back who are still fighting and giving their lives against an enemy who is also the enemy of the USA.

all he found out is that it makes no sense to sell modern weapons to the saudies and than send america troops to fight amercian weapons.

he also seems to look at the oil price and assumes that it does not make much sense to fight an oil war for 46 dollars per barrel. so a good chance to send putin his christmas present.

if he would be really smart he would make this decision much slower and talk to the world before. and MAYBE he could sell it as a human act and win sympathy back.
that people praise him for something is the thing he wants most - and as he did not see this chance and use it shows me and everybody with a brain that is just a little bit bigger than yours, that this was not a plan someone thought about and check it against the consequences.

but in GENERAL i am with you when it comes to the question if it makes sense to occupy ANY country. basically it is a good thing when america starts to get the ass out of other countryīs affairs and problems.


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