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VRPdommy 12-20-2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22384859)
He was also beaten badly and had such bad wounds from his plane crash and the torture that he was never able to fully lift his arms above his head. Onwebcam is a giant pile of shit.

They repeatedly broke his broken arms as a pow.
That's why they did not work right.

onwebcam 12-20-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22384856)
McCain's time as a POW was incredible. If I recall correctly, is father was in command of all US Navy ships in the Vietnam theater and John McCain was told he could leave. He refused until everyone else got to leave too.

The man is a fucking hero.

He stayed because his "confession" was broadcast to his fellow soldiers and he didn't want to face the "songbird" music.. He even says in his own memoirs he wasn't sure how he would be received when he returned. He was surprised to be welcomed home as a 'hero.' Because his father buried the real story.. Also because of who his father was he was allowed to crash as many planes as he wanted. He wouldn't even try to land them.. He'd just eject and let it crash.. With ZERO regard to who or what it might crash into.. He was also allowed to hop on a helicopter and go on a drunken and drugged awol binge for several weeks. He was planning on "not returning" from this binge.. As in, he was just going to walk away from the military.... Meanwhile his shipmates (some of whom died) limped back to shore after what may have very well been an accident that he caused. (some claim it was his fault because he was showing off) This is after he was seen hiding and crying (because he knew it was his fault) while his shipmates put out fires and picked up the pieces of their fellow shipmates.

A real hero.

astronaut x 12-20-2018 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22384309)
It's shameful GFY let's him & his fake nics destroy GFY.

Makes you wonder if Russia has a hold on AVN somehow

That comment should not be taken lightly. I have wondered this as well.

2MuchMark 12-20-2018 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22384879)
I did not always agree with his positions, but a hero he was !
More than that he was a patriot !
Funny how the best deeds are never really known till you die.
I was well aware of his history early on. Somewhere along the line of running for POTUS, he sold out his maverick self to the republicans. That's where I parted ways with following him.

Same here. He was on the other side of the fence to me politically, but he was smart, and I think he cared for the country. He went through a shitload of stuff and still came out on top, and live a good long life right until the end. Anyone who can't say that about him, even if they disagree with him, is one sad individual.

Rochard 12-20-2018 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22384852)

Seriously, I still wonder how we are going to get past this idea of anyone being able to discern what is real. Unfortunately, the government is going to have to create some standard for what is a legit news organization. And I find that a bit problematic by itself.

I wonder the same thing too.

It's stunning some people believe they cannot trust the "mainstream media". Just the thought of it is stunning. Mainstream media IS the news media; It's the ONLY news media. Anything that is not mainstream media is "fringe". It's not verified. It's biased.

King Mark 12-20-2018 11:16 PM

I don't view dealing with Russians to help take down their own spies and expose our administration for crimes as "colluding". Colluding is done for harmful purposes.

Onwebcam is a dorkus supremis for, in the same damn post, saying Hillary 100% colluded with Russia on a fake dossier...

King Mark 12-20-2018 11:25 PM

And I might get flack for this, but as far as mainstream media goes, aljazeera is about as balanced as it gets. Straight shooters. No left/right bias.

onwebcam 12-20-2018 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22384936)
I wonder the same thing too.

It's stunning some people believe they cannot trust the "mainstream media". Just the thought of it is stunning. Mainstream media IS the news media; It's the ONLY news media. Anything that is not mainstream media is "fringe". It's not verified. It's biased.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

VRPdommy 12-21-2018 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye (Post 22384938)
And I might get flack for this, but as far as mainstream media goes, aljazeera is about as balanced as it gets. Straight shooters. No left/right bias.

You will not get any flack from me. I have seen it myself.

From the time I was a very young man and a ham radio op, I listened to many world broadcast stations including radio moscow (in english) and found I could somewhat always see the political slant of stories when you listen to multiple perspectives.
I was quite surprised when they started aljazeera broadcast in english as it was not as I expected it to be.

I'm not saying that none of it has a slant, but never confuse a slant with a disagreement to what is being said. Sometimes you have to take a pause to be sure what it is that may bother you about a story. I would listen to news from around the world as I tapped out computer code in long stretches in the 80's and 90's.

Most fair media will at least point out how this is being viewed by those that oppose.
And that particular point is very telling.
Sometime after the gulf war 2, I stopped listening to those short wave broadcasts.
There were not many left and the internet had provided me with many more sources from my ham radio contacts throughout the world when they got the net in their country for a better perspective first hand. I have developed good relationships with many types of people all around the world and all the better for it.

I had been well experienced at discriminating garbage on the net since I have been one of those very early and very active birds to the internet. Not saying I seen it all as it continues to surprise me everyday.
I believe my first connection was in 83/84 when it was purely a command line operation.
Still is, just the browser gui does it for you.
Anyway, just pointing out how my thinking came to be with a little perspective.

Most folks I know who came into the net at age 35 or older at year 2000 & later are a bit more gullible for the BS. I can't figure that one out.

But always listen to it all. Improve your BS filter cause most things that are not right just don't make sense. Sometimes being smart is just a matter of being able to say things in a way folks can understand. Just make sure you know the difference. Sounding smart does not make them correct. The fewer life experiences you have, the smaller your BS filter.

VRPdommy 12-21-2018 11:29 AM


PR_Glen 12-21-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22384341)
McCain admitted he broke.. AND he was recorded and said recordings were broadcast as propaganda = Songbird


John McCain POW recordings revive historic, painful episode

Recordings of two long-lost propaganda broadcasts featuring Sen. John McCain's voice as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam have been found and are being circulated by his right-wing critics.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...sode/88547416/

A fact.. A fact you are welcome to ignore like many others.

besmirching a decorated veteran, pow and senator who died while serving in office is some shameful shit. You need to stop doing that or nobody will listen to you ever again...

Rochard 12-21-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22385212)
besmirching a decorated veteran, pow and senator who died while serving in office is some shameful shit. You need to stop doing that or nobody will listen to you ever again...

It is very distasteful.

I hate all Republicans, but let's face it - McCain was one of the good guys.

Bladewire 12-21-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22385212)
besmirching a decorated veteran, pow and senator who died while serving in office is some shameful shit. You need to stop doing that or nobody will listen to you ever again...

Nobody here listens to him but his other fake nics.

He's proven that he's not American by his various mess-ups over the last three years by not knowing things like state sales tax exists and you don't need an ID to use a credit card, etc.

Blocking him makes GFY seem more intelligent and a loss less hatefull & bitter.

VRPdommy 12-21-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22385221)
Nobody here listens to him but his other fake nics.

He's proven that he's not American by his various mess-ups over the last three years by not knowing things like state sales tax exists and you don't need an ID to use a credit card, etc.

Blocking him makes GFY seem more intelligent and a loss less hatefull & bitter.

Are you saying you believe his GFY ID was a old, no longer in use ID that was hi-jacked ?

Bladewire 12-21-2018 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22385321)
Are you saying you believe his GFY ID was a old, no longer in use ID that was hi-jacked ?

I'm not here to educate you fence sitter.

Live & die by your sword like the rest of us authentic users.

onwebcam 12-21-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22385329)
I'm not here to educate you fence sitter.

Live & die by your sword like the rest of us authentic users.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh @ you educating :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

RedFred 12-21-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22385334)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh @ you educating :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


A kindergartner would educate you.

VRPdommy 12-21-2018 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22385329)
I'm not here to educate you fence sitter.

Live & die by your sword like the rest of us authentic users.

??? I must be stupid 'cause I didn't understand a bit of that.

King Mark 12-21-2018 08:25 PM

That was odd

Bladewire 12-27-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22385342)
??? I must be stupid 'cause I didn't understand a bit of that.

My bad. I was replying to the wrong person in the wrong thread :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

onwebcam 12-27-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22387393)
My bad. I was replying to the wrong person in the wrong thread :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Getting confused between usernames and screens is understandable. We all know you're doing your best.


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