So that's the USA's biggest trading partner, the biggest lender for your Governments debt addiction and the biggest growth area of American business... no money from China.. No Merica

And while 100 million people is big to small counties like Amercia, keep in mind that's not even 8% of the Chinese market...

Scary shit huh.. Population 1400 Million and growing.

one more week like this and the DOW is back to 2014 levels :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Nice to see others understand. Just wanted to add a little more as we have a massive global bond bubble. The debt and the derivatives attached can only be described as scary. The Fed will try and pump up the market today so let's watch how they feed even more money to the elite.

Notice all the Trump nics have changed from blaming Obama, Clinton & the fed to now blaming financial "bubbles" after they bragged about how their king Trump was a financial miracle worker.

Trump started the trade war and since the trade war went into effect Obamas roaring market leveled out and crashed.

Trump alone is responsible for our current financial crisis.

a chinese worker makes 500 dollars per month - what investment you think he is able to do?

and since when is real estate a unsure invest? will land be blown away ?

aha and why is the Shanghai Stock Exchange the 4rth biggest stock exchange in the world?

i think you do not realize that China has the biggest population in the world.
4 times more citizens than the complete united states.
They build train roads through houses just because there is not enough space.



I´ve send you a link where you can see in what and where Chinese invest. you can use it and get informed or keep on writing bullshit.

fact is if China gets fucked the US will be fucked for decades!
Chinas booming economy was the world´s economy motor in the past 20 years and the ONLY motor right after the 2008 crash.

I would really let you kill this motor if it would just effect YOU MORONS but it is my planet too.

the FED does not have instruments left to pump up the market. The low interest was the only thing they could do to go against the financial crisis.
but imagine, the interest rate than fell from 5% to zero.
how much is the interest rate when you take 5% from 2 or 2,5% ?

regarding the bonds:

China holds around 1,2 trillion in US bonds. they bought most of them in the financial crisis on a low interest rate and that helped the US a lot.

if the US wants more foreign capital (and they will need it because the debt is rising like never before) they need to give more interest. US bonds already lost their triple A rating they had over many many decades. the air becomes thinner every fucking day.

..... as I watch the market (1.10 hours in) -275 in the last hour alone. That said, Japan holds an additional trillion. Although both are very concerning it is obvious the only direction left to go is the way of Japan ie., Keynesian economics. At the very least it will cause a similar zombie economy. The problem is it's very short-lived because of the ONLY reason Japan's economy works is we are still their trading partner. In short, the US has no one equivalent. It's all going to come down.

LOL! Never has propaganda been so obvious.

Japan´s way has practically not much to do with Keynes´idea.

They are running over limit since many many years and people are getting sick from work and missing freetime. They pushed their economy that much with debt that they pay today with money that the second after next generation have to work for.

America is on the best way to do the same and what trade shall be done between 2 bankrupt countries ?

Japan also relies a lot on China. 50% of all made-in-japan-goods are actually produced in China.

On top of that Japan have a big population problem.
In a world where other countries buy from countries that also buy from them a small population is a very very big handycap.

I assume that Japan will get more and more into the ASEAN trades and will move nearer to China. Don´t forget that the asian market is the far biggest market in the world and no country can survive without this market.

But I think you are right when you say that this is not to stop anymore.
Unfortunately I think so too because too many things went wrong in the past years and
and by far the most sensitive plant on which our prosperity depends is the economy, which reacts slowly but cannot be slowed down once the process has been initiated.

The last interest rate step of the FED will delay this a little longer but not prevent it any more.

If they would even catch the most proven facts on Keynesian economics the interest rate would be already at 4 or 5% since 2 years.
And there would not be ANY kind of trade war around because this theory is based on global management and triggers.

Bigly gains https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/investing/stock-market-today/index.html

Obama saved us the dow is up again

We're at a 15 month low now instead of 18 month low.

Yes a great day!

Only 15 months of losses.

Let's hope the market keeps rising every day Trump has a lot of catching up to do :thumbsup

Happy of today's gain, as I had injected a few K on Friday ....

Yesterday's record gains prove once again the versatility of Obama's powerful economic policies, despite Trump's best efforts to sabotage and destroy this nation's monetary system. The economy is booming and not even Trump can stop it! LOL, Obama truly is our great leader! If Hillary doesn't run again, at least please Obama run again.

But to be fair, I'm no economist. I cannot tell you exactly what series of events led to yesterday's record gains. Though this one day historic record will no doubt be studied closely by experts for years to come.

And in the minuscule chance that today's gains were in fact due to Trump's economic policies instead of Obama's (highly unlikely)........ well, if that were to turn out to be true, I feel compelled to state just for the record:

I feel those gains are racist. I feel they were intended to make poor people in Mexico, Honduras, and Syria to be economically devastated and starve to death and die slowly and terribly. And all the while, Trump is pocketing those gains and laughing all the way to the bank. I rend my clothes in anguish and cry with a broken heart that Trump is using the stock market to suck out what little money these poor migrants have in their pockets. And is making them die of starvation, because he's decided he wants to be a racist. :mad:

So there.

a bounce happens after each massive drop...it is only normal...calling it "record gains" is very amusing indeed...appropriate bounce is what happened IRL...no stock falls straight down...traders trade...

also keep in mind that there is a reason the price went down in the first place...nothing has changed...

the biggest problem on trump is that you can not believe a fucking word he says.
everytime when he opens his mouth or writes a twitter message it is a lie.

best example is when he told the troops in iraq that they got - THANKS TO HIM - the FIRST PAY RAISE in over a decade-
this is a simple lie but his supporters just believe and don´t check the facts even when it is quite easy to prove that it is just one more lie from thousands of lies he told.

https://militarypay.defense.gov/Pay/...nnualPayRaise/

:thumbsup

A taxing stock slump resumed Thursday, as the euphoria that swept the Dow Jones Industrial Average to its biggest-ever point gain subsided, pulling the blue-chip index down more than 300 points. , after investors made an about face from Wednesday’s historic rally—when the Dow surged more than 1,000 points. While investors weren’t surprised to see major stock indexes fall again—the Dow industrials has risen just six of the 17 trading days in December so far—the volatility and massive moves have been dizzying.

.. still haven't brought anything.. Come on Trump you can do better!

the worst december since the big depression is nothing for you ?

help me someone - how long did he say he need to get rid of the dept?

obama HAD to lend money to get out of the crisis trump simply borrowed twice as much per year and lowered the government tax income DRAMATICALLY!. and he does not yet face a crisis. i am really curious what he will do when the crisis is here.

i don´t really know who shall pay that. even when the government would spend not a single dollar in the future it would need decades to get rid of the debt.

I mean, look obama played a quite dangerous game by borrowing 9 trillion in 8 years and trump supporters hate him for that. but this is an average of 1,125 trillion per year (and that´s truly A LOT)

trump borrowed in less than 2 years additional 4 trillion - this is 2 trillion per year without a need because the crisis was gone.


i really don´t know what kind of magic his supporters expect. and i really don´t know if there will be ANY president in the future able to fix that disaster again.

how can you see the messiah in a piece of shit?

in is unbelievable that this dumbhead is still in the oval office. he should've been in the loony bin a long time ago accompanied by his brainwashed fans
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So much for that gain. Down about 400 points today. . . as of the moment.

I know you hate to hear it, but closed up 260.

Why would you think I hate to hear it?

I was just stating facts.

Having the stock market go up and down in big swings is not a sign of good things.

loool you are very funny. we see here the biggest december decrease since the great depression and you praise your massa buana because the market won 235 points from 4000 lost points back. las vegas will love you !

and bitcoin is up 20$ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh