He did say the Wall would get built so it would be more effective.

That's the number who were caught. All of them in some way sucking off Americans.

So if the Republicans block a Democrat President keeping an election promise, that how America works. Do you see how it works both ways?

Then the Democrats had best give in. Or you validate either side stopping Presidents carrying out election pledges.



The signs mean the border isn't working well enough. Illegals don't use legal ports of entry.

if you would finally realize that your country have now over 22 TRILLION of debts and rising you should know that there is not even money for a hot dog.

what about trump´s promise to bring the debts down?

actually he is the president that is creating the most new debts in US history.
where is the economic boom when all money in this bubble is just lend?

even you should be not too dumb to understand this simple maths, do you ?

And if he closes the border our economy will lose at LEAST 1Billion per day.

I'm not sure the USA will ever recover from Trump.

Only another election will demonstrate how many people actually really still support this insane, narcissistic, lying, criminal nutcase who currently occupies the WH. If it's any more than 20 million then the USA has bigger problems than Trump as president.

Trump didn't sign a contract for 115 miles of wall, he lies - all the time.

Trump's outburst threatening to close the border is the stuff of lunatic politics.

There are people right now who dead set believe that Trump and Mueller are working together to bring down the deep state and that a whole heap of celebrities, Obama, Clintons etc are all at Guantanamo Bay in prison and that public appearances of these people have been made by body doubles.

https://twitter.com/NinaQ413/status/1078318387938426880

Trump supporters and Qanon crazies are not normal people, they do not think critically, they are all so stupid it's difficult to put that stupidity into words.

The rest of the sane western world is looking on at America's experiment with Trump in shock and disbelief, it's crazy enough to be the stuff of a dystopia only dreamt up in fiction.

Which obviously isn't working well enough.

The UK has a problem with illegal migrants crossing a 22+ mile stretch of sea. This is after they have walked across Europe. The EU has a problem with illegals crossing the Mediterranean which is 100s of miles wide. So no Wall is going to be 100% proof. But unless the West is prepared to take a massive continual rise in illegal migrants we have to be prepared to use all measures possible to slow down the flow.

Don't expect politicians to care. They are feeding off the tit of big business and donors who want more cheap labour. They have already crippled our manufacturing industries by sending as much as possible to the Third World. They are promoting another tool to make jobs harder to come by. Automation is already stealing jobs, expect it to steal a lot more and along with it the stagnation or decline in wages.

One of the main reason for the debt is the size of the social warfare budgets, read more here. This is people needing government help to exist. Because the wage packet is no longer there or not enough to support themselves. Read more here.

Contributing to this situation are the 10 million illegal migrants in the US. Plus their children born in the US.

Then there are added costs. Prisons cost money.

Not only the very high percentage of illegal immigrants in American prisons.

Add the people who have no job and turn to crime to make ends meet.

The job of any President or Prime Minister is to protect the citizens of their own country. When successive leaders betray that promise they are not fit for office. But when one man stands up and promises his people to do more to protect them he's ridiculed.

Maybe a better approach would be one that Australia has taken.

What approach is that? What has Australia done that sets it apart from other countries?

Nicely put... Great Post.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=bFI...19.LICxWvjU45g Something for you to read.

I high light these. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austra...ion_facilities

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-and-refugees

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/30...refugee-gulag/

Sorry for mistaking you for being Australian.

There's a very good reason Trump was elected. The people who do the electing are sick to death of the same old politicians, from both sides, making their lives worse and a tiny elite lives better.

There's no way a bozo like Trump would ever get elected, unless the rest are so bloody awful they did elect him. Are Americans sick to the teeth of millions of illegal migrants, losing jobs, losing wages, lowering of living standards, crime, debt, over seas wars, etc?

Well that's what the rest promised and delivered.

Trump represents

http://www.grassrootstv.org/images/n...above-logo.jpg

Will normal service be resumed after Trump or will it signal a change?

What part of Republicans are in charge of the Senate, House, and Executive Branch do you not comprehend? This is the problem with Trump tweeting, idiots believe the bullshit.

Paul, I am an Australian.

I wanted to see if you knew what you were talking about and you obviously don't as you can't put into words any of what Australia has done.

Firstly, Australia is a big island surrounded by water.

The two ways to get here are by plane and boat.

We have a problem with refugees coming by boat to northern Australia.

In response to that problem the current Government implemented boat turnbacks and moved existing refugees to offshore detention.

Boats coming to Australia have slowed, but not stopped completely.

However the majority of Australia's illegal immigrant population came here through our borders at Airports. How did this happen? People come on a student or tourist visa and choose not to leave, some apply for refugee status, more of them just don't apply for anything and live here until caught.

The USA has a similar problem, however it has land based borders which are simpler for people to cross, that doesn't take away from the fact that between 40 and 65% of illegal immigrants in the USA are Visa overstays who came in legally through a border.

A wall will not fix that problem any more than being surrounded by water fixes that problem for Australia.

Paul, I hope you learned from this that you don't know everything and much of what you do type on this forum is so completely ill-informed that you might as well just make stuff up as it would probably be just as (in)accurate.

Umm wrong again... The election promise was Mexico was gonna pay for a wall and he would make sure of it. Trump has shut down the govt because he failed to deliver on his campaign promise and is trying to make the US pay for it..

Trump wants a wall.. then he can pay for it himself or get Mexico to..

Trump can't even get his own party to pay for his wall, yet the room temperature IQ's repeat his tweets and blame Dems. :1orglaugh

but this is a description of trump. he is not interested in nothing else than himself and all those fucking elites that controlled america all the years.
he does not even try to go against them like obama did.

particially true but you kill again the wrong pig.
the problems in US are problems of the "freedom of economy".
the rich can do and get whatever they want. not even courts can help because you have to be a millionair in USA to fight a lawsuit.

the second thing is that no critics on any kind of american policy is welcome. america is always right and the hero - most get their education from hollywood.

there was always an easy way to discredit someone who tells the truth. in doubt they call him communist or terrorist and all true words are going to the wind.

look how hard obama was fight ing for thing that eben you admit as the right things. obamacare was the maximum he could get throgh and trump came to cancel this little.
the dodd franc act was also just a compromise but at least something. trump came and destroyed it.

the finacial crisis of 2008 was not a result of a low economy - it was a result of ripping off people legally.

how many times obama tried to restrict arms - who did prevent that?

america has much deeper problems than a few million illegal immigrants. this number of illegals have been in america in all times - no matter if good or bad - so WHY shall they be now the guilties?

i can not even assume how many homeowners in US would not have a home without this illegals because they can not buy one with regular workers.

he represents chaos, trade wars, debts, missing to take new exorbitant chances in new technologies, deny of climate change, white supremacy, lose of US trust worldwide, overheating a running economy into the next crash, and lies lies lies....

you better should ask how many lifes the next US civil war costs what will get fought for the hate he spread in this country.

i doubt that any president can ever fix what trump have destroyed.

So I was right, but you think I'm wrong posting links to the truth.

Are you saying that because some illegal migrants are over stayers nothing should be done about people who cross borders by land or sea illegally.
i have high lighted that seas are not a deterrent. The English Channel, the Mediterranean and now the sea around Australia. Does that mean doing nothing is the option?

So your government blocking each other in efforts to improve the lives of citizens is a good thing.

Promising to slow down migration, stop losing industries to Third World Countries, and bringing back industries shows you're wrong.


Because illegals bring crime, low wages, lower living standards, higher welfare, etc. It's not the biggest problem but it is a problem so needs to be dealt with.

So the Americans never built houses prior to illegal migrants arriving. :Oh crap



Which President didn't do that?


There you go with your hatred of Trump, after admitting the problems go musch deeper than Trump.

His election promise was to build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it. Mexico refused and you see that as a good reason not to build it.

But you are willing for more illegals to cross the border and do jobs that Americans used to do and now don't because the employers won't pay a living wage, the crime that goes with it, the extra costs of welfare, schools, policing, prisons, etc.

The Wall is only one part of the measures needed to stop illegals crossing borders, but it signifies the USA is no longer going to accept illegal migration.

when did he do that - i must been sleeping.

imports are increasing under trump
more and more big players open factories in the third world
the only industry he have strengend (for a short periode) is the coal


says who ?
if THEY live in lower standards it does not effect the rest of the country.

home ownership rate in 2001 was 58,2 %

2016 it was at 87,3

don´t you call that prosperity ?

your big problem is that you do not get this big complexity in your small head and your conclusions are made from what you understand as the truth but not from reality.

the most funny is that all those countries doing the opposite of what you are proclaim doing much better than the ones doing it your way.
how can that be ?

what gives you a headache pill when you got cancer?
only the side effects ! but probably it makes the cancer growing faster.

but it really makes no sense to discuss that with you. you live in your little, strange world - far away from reality and you will never admit that you know nothing.

so who cares what you think ? god thanks you are just a talker and not a decider!

Home ownership equals prosperity you say?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ate-in-europe/

Stats for 2017

Romania 96,8%

Your own country Germany 51,4%

Good day to you sir...:1orglaugh

It's not some illegal immigrants who come through the border legally, it's most of them.

Walls, seas, dragons, fire pits or anything else you can dream of won't fix that problem.

There's no point spending billions on a wall when most of the illegal immigrants come in through the front door.

We already have 700 miles of wall at our border along all the non treacherous terrain. Paul knows that.

Paul also knows most illegals here come in via value visa they overstay.

Paul is just trolling pretending that he never absorbs any information he's given over 3 years , almost daily, about certain topics.

So the US needs someone even tougher on these points.

You're an idiot.



https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...ownership-rate

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-by-ethnicity/

Talking out of your ass again.

paul did not finish kindergarten and can not figure out how to use a playstation but he knows world history, politics and economy better than most world leaders...heres a pic of paul, del and rodney :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img...ses-846635.jpg

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/num...ly-separations

What we know about illegal immigration from Mexico | Pew Research Center

The Wall is just one measure to slow down migration. It will not solve the problem and isn't intended to.

Please don't quote that crossings are down, because they can just as easily go up again.

The 700 miles aren't working well enough. Bladewire knows that but just trolling.

so how comes that trump gave up the plan of a wall MONTHS AGO and doing instead the things bordersecurity demants for that ?

why is he still talking about a wall and even shut down the government if he already KNOWS he will got get it and it is not need?

maybe because he does not want to loose face ?


John Kelly: Trump Backed Away From the Wall Plan Months Ago | Time

and why does it look that he even changed his mind in syria because some people explained him the situation ?

is it because I AM WRONG and he listened to me ?

you forgot to change the path - he was faster than you.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/30/p...ump/index.html

i know why you like him so much - because he is the same dumbfuck as you are and knows nothing about anything.

Why does an old British guy spend hours every day pushing for a dictatorship in a country he doesnt live in? Weird.

To be fair: neither was tried yet but I like the sound of it. :glugglug

How bladewireish of you to say that but here's something funny, in Sweden he was mentioned 165,000 times in articles and on the news during 2018. In comparison the Swedish Prime Minister was mentioned 90.157. :1orglaugh

How odd that a European country so far away from the U.S. care to speak so much about Trump...:2 cents:

Do. Not. Ever. Quote. Fox. News.

We don't need to "slow down migration". Illegal immigration slowed down under Obama, and we did this without building a wall. What you don't understand is that Trump and the Republican party is screaming "We need to protect our borders" when the reality is illegal immigration is down, and building a wall would be a huge expense that wouldn't make a difference in slowing down illegal immigration. The vast majority of people here illegally actually cross the border legally and then fail to go home.

Stop listening to and reading Fox News - they are heavily biased. Look at the pure stats.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/il...on-statistics/

Arrests on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 303,916 in 2017. That is more than an 80% drop - and without spending billions and billions of dollars on a wall.

At the peak in 2005, we had over 12 million illegals in the United States. Now we have 11 million.

Keep in mind that when we say "Illegal immigration" we are also talking about Canadians, Europeans, and people from Asia.

Why is it that Democratic president did so much more to fight illegal immigration, deported more illegals then any other president, and did it with shouting about it and without spending billions of dollars for a wall?

In very simple terms a wall is a waste of money.

+1

American needs leadership, the world needs leadership. What we have is a lying child whose only interests are his ratings and his bank balance.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...466/17%2B-%2B1

Thanks to Trump NOT having a wall, Obama has workers to build HIS wall. I have no issue with Obama's wall, however. Because I agree with Obama politically. Walls are only bad if they're associated with Trump (because we don't agree with Trump politically).

Its not like Mexican wall builders would have any jobs to do in Mexico, anyway. So it good that they can come here and be hired to do those jobs.

Oh wait, what's this?

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images...e4b2ce833a.jpg

Well yeah, same rights. It sounds good on paper. However, its simply a matter of: we just don't want Trump to have what he wants (because we don't agree with him politically).

I have absolutely no issue with it this wall, however. Because Trump has nothing to do with it.