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thommy 01-04-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22390540)


look - even the dog likes merkel more than putin.

but i am sure he can stand that because he have 144 million more dogs that do what he wants (plus one in the white house)

thommy 01-04-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22388459)
Keep in mind that when resources aren't leaving the US, prices go down for US consumers. We saw this with natural gas. It was dirt cheap and then they built up the infrastructure to put it on the global market and prices have since gone way up.

Look for food prices at the grocery store to go down.

do you even have the smallest clue what it means when prices go down because of the missing demand ?

seems not. and this is why uneducated idiots should not be allowed to vote or spread their poison from one idiot to the next.

thommy 01-04-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22389563)
I post the truth and all you can say is this? :upsidedow

How fucked up are you?

Over the last 50 years we have slowly given away the one thing that made us better than Third World countries. We have allowed Third World countries to over take us. This has cost us jobs, incomes, taxes and an overall decline in living standards. Google these links.

US poverty rate.

US living standards.

UK poverty rate 2017.

UK living standards.

This has led to a growing rise in the Far Right, because people see liberalism as failing them. I don't defend Putin so you're lying there. I have defended Trump on occasions and still think the man is a Bozo. But he stands for measures to put America first on trade and migration. You must stand against such measures.

paul please do yourself the favor and educate yourself at least in the basics of economy.

1. all your stats and numbers, that you do not understand) are mirroring only ONE THING: PROSPERITY !!!

2. prosperity today is a very other thing as prosperity 50 years ago. the human brain obviously can not remember the bad things but the good ones.
how many televisions did you have 50 years ago? how many cars did you drive and HOW LONG DID YOU HAVE TO WORK to get that.

3. you seem to think that wellfare and healthcare is lost money - but it is NOT you dumb.
actually the poorest people are the ones that give all they have back in the money circle, simply because they can not save money.

every dollar paid on wellfare and healthcare goes directly into the income of a taxpayer.
so it will COME BACK - and THIS IS THE MAIN PURPOSE OF MONEY !!!!!

but tell me what comes back from the taxpayers money when it is used for a bomb dropped on a foreign country ?

imagine when we come to the point when 80% of the work is automized.
HOW can such an economy work?

it can work with HIGH TAXES.
this taxes have to be spend to the ones that do not own a company for buying products.
the sense of any kind of production would be gone if there is nobody who can afford to buy.

so wellfare and healthcare is an economic booster and not the end of economy !
it is the REASON for taxes and community spendings. if that would not be the case and the world would be ruled with your little brain, you would be sitting alone at the end at the monopoly and all your streets and houses would not feed you.

Sarn 01-04-2019 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22390556)
look - even the dog likes merkel more than putin.

but i am sure he can stand that because he have 144 million more dogs that do what he wants (plus one in the white house)

Trump comrade good president, I don't know why you not like him :1orglaugh

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venus 01-04-2019 12:05 PM

trade with china had to be addressed, it was and has been unfair to the US and past presidents have refused to do anything except complain that it was unfair. Did you see the chinese general the other day say that china could resolve americas problem with the south china sea by simply sinking a pair of US aircraft carriers and killing 10,000 americans...honestly we should not even have trade with china.

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22388224)
The best part is we had those market shares now Trump started a Tarriffs war so they replaced our product with others. Even if a new trade deal is hammered out, the market share is already gone so to get it back new deals would have to be cut by the sellers and buyers meaning most likely the farmers get fucked again even if they can get the market share back..

Trump has fucked the US.. the meat industry alone has said they expect to lose a billion dollars in sales over the next 5 years due to exports lost from the tarriffs..



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