1) We already have 700 miles of wall at our southern border.

You idiots keep acting like there's no wall at the border already fucking morons

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They listen to this bunch of clowns...

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...and the voices in their own heads.

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sorry but even their faces are a crime !

Reasons for not building the wall.

1. It will cost more than we think. Everything with the government does and there will be lawsuits, delays etc.

2. It won't stop that many people. We don't have enough people to patrol and protect the wall so people will go over, under or through it.

3. People will find alternate ways in either using tourist visas, going by sea, air etc.

4. It may never get done. Funding could get cut, there could be legal issues, etc.


A better way to spend this money and curb illegal immigration would be:

1. End birthright citizenship. This will kill illegals ability to get welfare.

2. Go hard after the companies that hire illegals. I'm not talking about the random place that accidentally hires one illegal. I'm talking about the bigger industries. Much of the construction, agriculture, and food prep industries in this country operate on the backs of illegals.

3. Streamline the deportation process to make it quicker.

4. Improve and streamline the system that is in place that allows people to come here legally.

5. Work with the countries where most of the immigrants come from to improve those countries so fewer people will want to leave.

When people know they can't get jobs or welfare here, they will stop coming here.

no doubt on that !

that´s a base for a discussion that makes sense

the dirty Little secret Republicans don't want you to know is that illegals are customers of their businesses as well.

Illegals buy cell phones

Illegals pay for cellphone service

Illegals buy gas

Illegals buy groceries

Illegals buy clothes

Illegals buy movie tickets

Illegals go to restaurants

Illegals buy cars

Illegals pay rent for housing

Etc. Etc. Etc.

The real reason Republicans are not tough on immigration.

the last voice of reason on GFY, thank you for your service.

You are pretty proud of your "twatwaffles" word aren't you. I'm afraid it's not really going to catch on. In fact, it sounds pretty stupid and doesn't help your insipid argument about changing the Citizens United crap and getting rid the electoral college. Both need to go and will. This country is changing now thanks to the orange moron and you will probably not recognize it after 2020. It's for certain that people like you will be marginalized and ineffective when that happens and you will just have to live with it. So you might go ahead and do us all a favor now and just fade away.

Funny, you probably hate Trump but he is working on those very things, even Mexico is getting on board with a lot of that. As far as the wall, the border patrol, you know those people that are down there have said the fencing that has gone up has helped a lot, I don't know where you get your info

Sure stirs up the twatwaffles when I post, so you just seem to be full of shit don't you?

The Apprentice would play after every episode of Duck Dynasty. Maybe that would explain his following's demographic.

The border patrol has stated that the fencing that Obama and Bush put up has helped a lot and these are the people on the front line. Will it cost more, sure, but it will employ people which is better than the 3 billion spent on cash for clunkers, 4.5 trillion spent on qualititive easing by Obama to prop up the banks and the 800 billion stimulus package or the money they gave to Iran or the 54 billion that Pelosi wants for foriegn aid. 5 billion will go a long way and at least we are doing something. Trump may just declare an emergency and get it funded that way because Obama set a precedent to do things like that. Then the Democrats new power will twindle away with all their hopes and dreams they had based on the leverage they presently have.

It's not about stopping them, I guess you have no concept of what a deterrent is.

You just say "people say" shit and don't link to anything to back up your hate trolling. Lazy hate troll.

It's not the 1990's you can't just say stuff and people take your word for it without providing links.

Did you ever have access to the GFY user database, or an opportunity to download it, before your time as a GFY admin was ended?

https://www.10news.com/news/local-ne...king-whats-not. This is what the experts say about a wall or fence

This is how uneducated immigrants bypass tall billion dollar steel slat border walls

it´s not ONLY what you have mentioned - there is a lot more.

i saw it here in thailand when the military regime took action against the illegal construction helpers from cambodia and laos. they were of the opinion that there are enough workers for it in thailand itself. now, however, even a thai with a minimum wage of 300 dollars increases the construction costs to such an extent that the houses and flats could no longer be sold.

the result after one year was that hundreds of construction companies went bankrupt. thousands of thais who had a job with the sale, organization and management of these properties became unemployed.

after one year these foreign workers were taken back to the country with a bonus and the police are instructed not to carry out any more checks regarding work permits and legal residency.

and this is only the construction biz. it would be even mess when they would do the same in agriculture and farming (what are thailand´s biggest export goods).

the right wingers do not understand how cheap labor and unbalance of prosperity INSIDE AND OUTSIDE helps them to survive and makes product affordable.

at the end it is not how much money you make - it is how much you can buy for it. if it is less it means that prosperity is decreasing. and this is what they are calling for when they do not understand on what factors and influences worldwide economies are based.

Illegals cost more than they provide you idiots in public services. So that idea is fucking worthless. One killed my best friend and the liberal judge only gave that POS 1 year for ending a life. Fuck liberals justifications of why we need illegal aliens, they need to be shot!

https://fairus.org/issue/publication...ates-taxpayers read this and get what the fiscal truth is about what it's costing the US taxpayers.

Yes we know hate troll

Everyone not on team Trump is a far left bleeding heart liberal in your small mind

Yes we know the hate runs deep in you first thing in the morning so you gotta spread that hate online like a virus

Fairus.org

The Federation for American Immigration
Reform

A right wing hate group can't even disguise it's hate for brown people on its site.

No mention of the largest group of illegal immigrants in America, Canadians that overstay their visas.

But that doesn't fit your "brown people are bad" hate agaenda.

if your friend was one like you I wonder why they gave him even 1 year.

He actually had over 500 people show up to his funeral, so I'll take that as a compliment. Though your intention was point out what a twatwaffle you are! LMAO fuck you seriously have zero imagination on top of your short comings in understanding what's going on!

Weird how he completely ignores this.

I just ignore him

Number of unauthorized immigrants in US lower in 2015 than 2009


And THERE it is.

Vendzilla: First, everyone here is sorry that your friend got shot.

But you are blaming ALL foreigners, all immigrants, illegal or otherwise, for the loss of your friend. But blaming all immigrants is wrong. Worse then that, it won't get anyone anywhere. It's irrational.

Sorry again about your friend, but building a wall is just an incredibly stupid idea. It may be a natural reaction to a terrible event but its still a stupid idea.

You should what would be a good idea? Making it alot harder to get guns. Making the act of shooting someone a 10 year prison term. Making a murder an automatic life sentence. But of course, Gun Nutters will have nothing to do with that.

And seriously, stop using that word. It means nothing, and you sound ridiculous when when you do.

Yeah he's shady & underhanded for sure as you can see from the link below posted by Mark earlier

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...e-program.html

He has a lot of hate, and a LOT of free time

Crocket posted before how that "Hillary fundraiser" got investigated. It was in the media too. I can't remember the outcome if they were forced to shutdown, shut down on their own, or something else. Creepy

Lol, vendildo thought people forgot.

R.I.P your friend, but people die every day man. You have no idea what other people have been through, much worse than you claim, and still didn't turn into racists.

You gotta learn to separate logic from emotions. If you can't, then you gotta accept the fact you handle things like a woman.

What was your friend's name so we can look up the case and discuss the details.

You've mentioned this time and time again, but without knowing the full story we cannot even comment on it.

He's lying

A lie for an excuse to be racist

"One brown person did something bad so I hate them all"

Guess you have no close friends. Judging by you calling me a racist, when giving zero reason for that, I can speculate you have no friends at all. Or that you spend all your time on a forum.

I don't care to do that. The twatwaffles will find some way of demoralizing my friend. I don't care to hear that

Bro, first of all (like I said before) sorry about your friend.

However, I have MANY close friends (like most normal people) and I've dealt with a lot more of them being murdered or dying than just one.

Also, served 2 tours in Iraq. The second tour, they had to pull my best battle buddies bones out of my face (along with my right eye, hence my username).

You have no idea what other people have been through, much worse than you claim (cause your story sounds like a fake ghetto tale), and still didn't turn into racists.

Yep his "anonymous" dead friend is pulled out for sympathy and his excuse for racism but is never verified.

All you gotta do with Vendzilla is scratch the surface and the facade falls apart

I remember the story, I believe it's true, it is unfortunate and a wall would have probably not made the slightest difference.

Going hard after people that employ illegals - or enable them by giving them fake papers - that would make a difference. Most illegals won't come illegally if there was no chance of getting a job.

But when even the "president" has a history of his companies hiring illegals - what do we expect to change on that part?

PS - I see you gave up ever getting a job in this industry again.

Not that this would have happened anyways.

Amazing how as this industry sank, most the losers turned into neckbeards instead of finding another hustle.

If any of you neackbeards want to find a way out of that madness, I'll give you free advice. PM me. Serious offer. Let's be productive.